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  54. # [18:03] <glenn> trackbot-ng, start telcon
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  58. # [18:03] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  59. # [18:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  60. # [18:03] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  61. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  62. # [18:03] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  63. # [18:03] <trackbot> Date: 19 January 2012
  64. # [18:03] <glenn> Scribe: glenn
  65. # [18:04] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233)
  66. # [18:04] <glenn> Chair: rubys
  67. # [18:04] <glenn> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0003.html
  68. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Julian
  69. # [18:04] <glenn> Topic: Actions Due by Thursday, January 19
  70. # [18:05] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  71. # [18:05] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
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  74. # [18:05] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  75. # [18:05] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  76. # [18:05] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  77. # [18:05] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  78. # [18:05] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  79. # [18:05] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  80. # [18:05] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  81. # [18:05] <trackbot> Date: 19 January 2012
  82. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  83. # [18:05] <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
  84. # [18:05] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  85. # [18:05] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0003.html
  86. # [18:06] <glenn> chair: rubys
  87. # [18:06] <glenn> scribe: glenn
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  89. # [18:06] <glenn> topic: Actions Due by Thursday, January 19
  90. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Sam
  91. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Apple.a]
  92. # [18:07] <glenn> ACTION-207?
  93. # [18:07] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-207
  94. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2011-01-31 -- OPEN
  95. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207
  96. # [18:07] <hober> Zakim, Apple.a has hober
  97. # [18:07] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  98. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  99. # [18:08] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  100. # [18:08] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  101. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  104. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  105. # [18:09] <paulc> zakim, who is on the call?
  106. # [18:09] <Zakim> On the phone I see GlennAdams, Julian (muted), [Apple], Sam, [Apple.a], adrianba, [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly
  107. # [18:09] <Zakim> [Apple.a] has hober
  108. # [18:09] <Zakim> [Apple] has dsinger
  109. # [18:09] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  110. # [18:09] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  111. # [18:09] <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aaaa
  112. # [18:10] <eliot> zakim, +1.206.850.aaa is me
  113. # [18:10] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  114. # [18:10] <glenn> rubys: progressing, moved to end of month
  115. # [18:10] <glenn> questions?
  116. # [18:10] <glenn> Topic: New Issues This Week
  117. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-193?
  118. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-193
  119. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- raised
  120. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
  121. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-194?
  122. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-195?
  123. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-196?
  124. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-197?
  125. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-198?
  126. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-194
  127. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- raised
  128. # [18:10] <glenn> ISSUE-193?
  129. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
  130. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-199?
  131. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-200?
  132. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-195
  133. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- raised
  134. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-201?
  135. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
  136. # [18:10] <rubys> ISSUE-202?
  137. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-196
  138. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- raised
  139. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196
  140. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-197
  141. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- raised
  142. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197
  143. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-198
  144. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- raised
  145. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
  146. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-193
  147. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- raised
  148. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
  149. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-199
  150. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- raised
  151. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
  152. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-200
  153. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- raised
  154. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
  155. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-201
  156. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- raised
  157. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
  158. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-202
  159. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-202 -- Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length -- raised
  160. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/202
  161. # [18:11] <glenn> rubys: will go through these later in agenda
  162. # [18:12] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  163. # [18:12] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  164. # [18:12] <Zakim> +Mike
  165. # [18:12] <glenn> also tracker request under other business
  166. # [18:12] <glenn> deadline of jan 14th producing much activity
  167. # [18:12] <glenn> Topic: Items Closed Last Week
  168. # [18:12] <glenn> ISSUE-189?
  169. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-189
  170. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
  171. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
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  173. # [18:13] <glenn> rubys: call for counter proposals
  174. # [18:13] <glenn> Topic: Items Closing This Week
  175. # [18:14] <glenn> ISSUE-180? allowpopups, Call for Consensus closes Jan 18
  176. # [18:14] <glenn> ISSUE-181? remove-sidebar, Call for Consensus closes Jan 18
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  178. # [18:14] <glenn> ISSUE-187? validity-stability, extension closes Jan 21
  179. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-190? coding-example, Change Proposals due Jan 21
  180. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-191? ins-del, Change Proposals due Jan 21
  181. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-192? title-attribute, Change Proposals due Jan 21
  182. # [18:15] <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
  183. # [18:15] <glenn> None
  184. # [18:15] <glenn> Topic: New Calls This Week
  185. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-185? drop-pubdate, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 16
  186. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-188? generic-track-format, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 16
  187. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-189? uri-web-prefix, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 16
  188. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
  189. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-193? inaccessible-example, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
  190. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-194? full-transcript, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
  191. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-195? form-http-req, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
  192. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-196? ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
  193. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-197? accept-file-ext, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
  194. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-198? innerHTML-patent-policy, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
  195. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-199? aria-processing, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
  196. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-200? legend-placement, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
  197. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-201? canvas-fallback, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
  198. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-202? figcaption-words, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
  199. # [18:16] <glenn> Topic: New Surveys This Week
  200. # [18:16] <glenn> None
  201. # [18:17] <glenn> Topic: Decisions This Week
  202. # [18:17] <glenn> ISSUE-186?
  203. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-186
  204. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-186 -- conformance error for use of role=presentation on interactive elements -- closed
  205. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/186
  206. # [18:17] <glenn> rubys: closed without prejudice due to lack of CP
  207. # [18:17] <glenn> questions/comments on any of above?
  208. # [18:18] <glenn> Topic: Other Business
  209. # [18:18] <glenn> (a) ISSUE-177? ietf-id-wip
  210. # [18:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Dec/0079.html
  211. # [18:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Dec/0123.html
  212. # [18:18] <glenn> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6454
  213. # [18:18] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  214. # [18:18] <glenn> ISSUE-177?
  215. # [18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-177
  216. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open
  217. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
  218. # [18:18] <glenn> rubys: material that may change CP
  219. # [18:18] <Julian> Zakim, unmute me
  220. # [18:18] <Zakim> Julian should no longer be muted
  221. # [18:19] <glenn> rubys: julian: have you noticed rfc status has changed?
  222. # [18:19] <glenn> julian: shall i revise?
  223. # [18:19] <glenn> rubys: did CP talk about multiple?
  224. # [18:19] <glenn> julian: 2 or 3
  225. # [18:19] <glenn> julian: can raise as new bug (?where?)
  226. # [18:20] <glenn> .. thanks for notifying about change of status
  227. # [18:20] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  228. # [18:20] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
  229. # [18:20] <glenn> rubys: discuss further as need on email
  230. # [18:20] <glenn> (b) Bug 13651: request for extension
  231. # [18:20] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0147.html
  232. # [18:20] <glenn> https://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/202
  233. # [18:20] <glenn> rubys: extension has been resolved, ISSUE-202 created
  234. # [18:21] <glenn> (c) Change Proposal for issue 182 sent past deadline
  235. # [18:21] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0048.html
  236. # [18:21] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0082.html
  237. # [18:21] <glenn> rubys: reopened based on CP
  238. # [18:21] <glenn> (d) New Issue Request: media textual descriptions
  239. # [18:21] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0213.html
  240. # [18:21] <glenn> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12228
  241. # [18:21] <glenn> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12794
  242. # [18:21] <glenn> rubys: ISSUE-203 has been opened, call for CP
  243. # [18:21] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0098.html
  244. # [18:22] <glenn> (e) Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-12-12 - 2012-01-15
  245. # [18:22] <glenn> http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/01/openweb-weekly-24.html
  246. # [18:22] <glenn> rubys: starting up after vacations
  247. # [18:22] <glenn> .. folks should review
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  249. # [18:22] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0099.html
  250. # [18:22] <glenn> (f) Feb 11 is important deadline for RFI
  251. # [18:23] * Julian_ opens https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15630
  252. # [18:23] <glenn> rubys: questions/comments?
  253. # [18:23] <laura> What is the Chairs' plan to move on ISSUE-30 longdesc? Is there a timeline?
  254. # [18:23] <glenn> laura: wondering about plan for ISSUE-30 is there timeline?
  255. # [18:23] <laura> Paul had previously mentioned that the Chairs had estimated that they would be finished reviewing proposals on December 11.
  256. # [18:23] <laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Nov/0227.html
  257. # [18:24] <glenn> rubys: is mjs on call?
  258. # [18:24] <laura> On December 15 Maciej said he hoped the final review would be out before the holiday break.
  259. # [18:24] <laura> http://www.w3.org/2011/12/15-html-wg-minutes.html#item11
  260. # [18:24] <glenn> ISSUE-30?
  261. # [18:24] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-30
  262. # [18:24] <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
  263. # [18:24] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
  264. # [18:24] <glenn> rubys: waiting for draft from mjs
  265. # [18:25] <glenn> Topic: Scribe for Next Meeting
  266. # [18:25] <glenn> paulc: up for chair
  267. # [18:26] <glenn> paulc: needs scribe
  268. # [18:26] <glenn> ted: volunteers to scribe
  269. # [18:26] * dsinger distinctive but rarely used voice … :-)
  270. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Mike
  271. # [18:26] <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
  272. # [18:26] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  273. # [18:26] <laura> bye
  274. # [18:26] <glenn> rrsagent, publish minutes
  275. # [18:26] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/19-html-wg-minutes.html glenn
  276. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
  277. # [18:26] <Zakim> -[Apple.a]
  278. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Julian
  279. # [18:26] <Zakim> -eliot
  280. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Sam
  281. # [18:26] <Zakim> -adrianba
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  283. # [18:27] <glenn> trackbot-ng, end meeting
  284. # [18:27] <trackbot> Sorry, glenn, I don't understand 'trackbot-ng, end meeting '. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
  285. # [18:27] <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
  286. # [18:27] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  287. # [18:27] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  288. # [18:27] <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been GlennAdams, Julian, dsinger, Sam, [Apple], hober, adrianba, Cynthia_Shelly, paulc, +1.206.850.aaaa, eliot, Mike, Laura_Carlson
  289. # [18:27] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  290. # [18:27] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/19-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot
  291. # [18:27] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  292. # [18:27] <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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  294. # [18:28] <Zakim> -GlennAdams
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  306. # [19:09] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  307. # [19:09] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  308. # [19:09] <Zakim> Attendees were GlennAdams, Julian, dsinger, Sam, [Apple], hober, adrianba, Cynthia_Shelly, paulc, +1.206.850.aaaa, eliot, Mike, Laura_Carlson
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