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  89. # [18:06] <glenn_> zakim, this is html
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  94. # [18:07] <glenn> zakim, this is html
  95. # [18:07] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  96. # [18:07] * Julian is too early
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  98. # [18:07] <glenn> zakim, this is html
  99. # [18:07] <Zakim> ok, glenn; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
  100. # [18:08] <glenn> zakim, who's here?
  101. # [18:08] <Zakim> On the phone I see +9251280aaaa, +1.417.671.aabb, [Microsoft], hober
  102. # [18:08] <Zakim> On IRC I see glenn, krisk, paulc, Julian, karl, ed, drublic, ArtB, nonge, MikeSmith, mjs, Philip, arronei, anne, trackbot, Jedi, kennyluck, danielfilho, heycam|away, hiro, webben,
  103. # [18:08] <Zakim> ... inimino, [tm], jmb, krijnh, slightlyoff, CIA-1, hober, rektide, gsnedders, paul___irish, johndrinkwater, jgraham, Dashiva, gavin, hsivonen, pingo, Hixie, lgombos
  104. # [18:08] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  105. # [18:08] <Zakim> On the phone I see +9251280aaaa, +1.417.671.aabb, [Microsoft], hober
  106. # [18:08] <Zakim> +joesteele
  107. # [18:08] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aacc
  108. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer
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  110. # [18:08] <glenn> trackbot, start meeting
  111. # [18:08] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  113. # [18:08] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/03/08-html-wg-irc
  114. # [18:08] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  115. # [18:08] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  116. # [18:08] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  117. # [18:08] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  118. # [18:08] <Julian> Zakim, +9251280aaaa is me
  119. # [18:08] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  120. # [18:08] <trackbot> Date: 08 March 2012
  121. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  122. # [18:08] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  123. # [18:08] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
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  125. # [18:08] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  126. # [18:08] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  127. # [18:08] <glenn> chair: paulc
  128. # [18:08] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0022.html
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  130. # [18:08] <glenn> scribe: glenn
  131. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  132. # [18:08] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  133. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  134. # [18:08] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  135. # [18:08] <glenn> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0022.html
  136. # [18:09] <glenn> Topic: Action Items Due by March 8
  137. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  138. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  139. # [18:09] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  140. # [18:09] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  141. # [18:09] <glenn> zakim, aabb is me
  142. # [18:09] <Zakim> +glenn; got it
  143. # [18:09] <[tm]> Zakim: call Mike
  144. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  145. # [18:09] <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a is me
  146. # [18:09] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  147. # [18:09] <krisk> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is krisk
  148. # [18:09] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
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  151. # [18:10] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  152. # [18:10] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian (muted), glenn, [Microsoft], hober, joesteele, +1.415.595.aacc, Joseph_Scheuhammer, adrianba, krisk, eliot
  153. # [18:10] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  154. # [18:10] <[tm]> Zakim, call Mike
  155. # [18:11] <Zakim> ok, [tm]; the call is being made
  156. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Mike
  157. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Mark_Watson
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  159. # [18:12] <glenn> ACTION-209?
  160. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-209
  161. # [18:12] <trackbot> ACTION-209 -- Paul Cotton to set up an encrypted media propsal task force, due next week -- due 2012-03-08 -- OPEN
  162. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/209
  163. # [18:12] <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0275.html
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  165. # [18:12] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  166. # [18:12] <glenn> paulc: posted outline for a Media TF
  167. # [18:12] * [tm] is having some trouble calling in
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  169. # [18:12] <glenn> ... used same template for accessibility TF
  170. # [18:12] <glenn> ... should close action item
  171. # [18:13] <glenn> close ACTION-209
  172. # [18:13] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-209.
  173. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-209 Set up an encrypted media propsal task force, due next week closed
  174. # [18:13] <glenn> ???: feedback on issue?
  175. # [18:13] <glenn> paulc: will discuss feedback by next week
  176. # [18:13] <glenn> ... moving this forward to set up TF, didn't set up deadline, will do a CfC with deadline on TF creation
  177. # [18:14] <glenn> ... early feedback appreciated
  178. # [18:14] <[tm]> paulc: date for WD pubs is March 15
  179. # [18:14] <glenn> Topic: New Issues This Week
  180. # [18:14] <mark> s/???/Mark Watson/
  181. # [18:14] <glenn> There is 1 tracker request
  182. # [18:14] <glenn> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
  183. # [18:15] <glenn> paulc: holding off action... may have by next week
  184. # [18:15] <[tm]> s/paulc: date/paulc, date/
  185. # [18:15] <glenn> Topic: Items Closed Last Week
  186. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-189?
  187. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-189
  188. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
  189. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
  190. # [18:15] <glenn> paulc: two proposals, will move to next stage
  191. # [18:15] <glenn> Topic: Items Closing This Week
  192. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-170?
  193. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-170
  194. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-170 -- make URIs valid link relations -- open
  195. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/170
  196. # [18:16] <glenn> paulc: looking up status
  197. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-192?
  198. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-192
  199. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
  200. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
  201. # [18:17] <glenn> paulc: CfC closed yesterday
  202. # [18:17] <glenn> ISSUE-204?
  203. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-204
  204. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
  205. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
  206. # [18:17] <glenn> CfC closes on Saturday, blocks ISSUE-30
  207. # [18:17] <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
  208. # [18:17] <glenn> ISSUE-80?
  209. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-80
  210. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
  211. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
  212. # [18:17] <glenn> ISSUE-131?
  213. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-131
  214. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
  215. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
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  217. # [18:18] <glenn> ISSUE-158?
  218. # [18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-158
  219. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- open
  220. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158
  221. # [18:18] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  222. # [18:18] <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
  223. # [18:18] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  224. # [18:18] <glenn> ISSUE-205?
  225. # [18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-205
  226. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. -- open
  227. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
  228. # [18:18] <glenn> paulc: all in call for counter proposals
  229. # [18:18] <glenn> ... comments?
  230. # [18:18] <glenn> Topic: New Calls
  231. # [18:18] <glenn> paulc: CfC on May F2F, closes tomorrow March 10
  232. # [18:19] <glenn> ISSUE-187? CfC
  233. # [18:19] <glenn> ISSUE-187?
  234. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-187
  235. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
  236. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
  237. # [18:19] <glenn> ISSUE-198?
  238. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-198
  239. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- closed
  240. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
  241. # [18:19] <glenn> paulc: have issued call for counter proposals, still discussing where work should be done... HTML vs WebApps
  242. # [18:20] <glenn> ... have called for counter propossal, while discussing place for work continues
  243. # [18:20] <glenn> ... comments?
  244. # [18:20] <glenn> Topic: New Surveys
  245. # [18:20] <glenn> none
  246. # [18:20] <glenn> Topic: Decisions this Week
  247. # [18:20] <glenn> ISSUE-183?
  248. # [18:20] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-183
  249. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
  250. # [18:20] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
  251. # [18:20] <glenn> issued CfC, received no object;
  252. # [18:21] <glenn> s/object/objections/
  253. # [18:21] <glenn> Topic: TF Reports
  254. # [18:21] <Zakim> -Mike
  255. # [18:21] <glenn> paulc: accessibility TF has not met, any input?
  256. # [18:22] <glenn> ... didn't meet for last 2 weeks due to SbSW meeting
  257. # [18:22] <glenn> testing TF
  258. # [18:22] <krisk> Notes from Testing TF Meeting -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Mar/0003.html
  259. # [18:22] <glenn> krisk: if folks making changes to ???, please make in correct location
  260. # [18:23] <krisk> Changes to testharness.js need to be done at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/resources/
  261. # [18:23] <glenn> s/???/testharness.js/
  262. # [18:23] <glenn> krisk: working on canvas and bidi tests
  263. # [18:23] <glenn> Topic: AOB
  264. # [18:24] <glenn> a) CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
  265. # [18:24] <glenn> Chairs' decision:
  266. # [18:24] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0221.html
  267. # [18:24] <glenn> target pub date is March 15, [tm] is handling this...
  268. # [18:24] <eliot> Will work with Mike
  269. # [18:24] <glenn> paulc: any editors on call should work with Mike ([tm])
  270. # [18:24] <glenn> ... to meet hearbeat requirements
  271. # [18:25] <glenn> b) CfC: Close ISSUE-182 footnote-recommendation by Amicable Resolution http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0250.html
  272. # [18:25] <glenn> Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
  273. # [18:25] <glenn> c) CfC: Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0251.html
  274. # [18:25] <glenn> Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
  275. # [18:25] <glenn> ISSUE-182?
  276. # [18:25] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-182
  277. # [18:25] <trackbot> ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- open
  278. # [18:25] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182
  279. # [18:25] <glenn> ISSUE-188?
  280. # [18:25] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-188
  281. # [18:25] <trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open
  282. # [18:25] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188
  283. # [18:25] <glenn> paulc: ... don't want to add to work queue yet, but expect decision shortly
  284. # [18:26] <glenn> d) Revert request
  285. # [18:26] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0199.html
  286. # [18:26] <glenn> Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
  287. # [18:26] <glenn> e) Revert Request for "http+aes" scheme (see also ISSUE-179) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0235.html
  288. # [18:26] <glenn> Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
  289. # [18:26] <glenn> paulc: chairs have not yet processed, but are discussing; response expected soon
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  291. # [18:27] <glenn> paulc: New AOB
  292. # [18:27] <paulc> CfC: Close ISSUE-179 av_param by Amicable Resolution
  293. # [18:27] <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0277.html
  294. # [18:27] <glenn> paulc: will be able to move amicable resolution on remaining zero change proposal, march 15 deadlie
  295. # [18:27] <Zakim> +??P7
  296. # [18:27] <glenn> s/deadlie/deadline/
  297. # [18:28] <glenn> paulc: one other question on list:
  298. # [18:28] <glenn> ISSUE-164?
  299. # [18:28] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-164
  300. # [18:28] <trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
  301. # [18:28] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
  302. # [18:28] <glenn> paulc: chairs are reviewing CPs
  303. # [18:28] <Zakim> +??P19
  304. # [18:28] <Zakim> -??P7
  305. # [18:29] <glenn> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0237.html
  306. # [18:29] <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
  307. # [18:29] <glenn> s/Adjournment/Next Meeting/
  308. # [18:29] <adrianba> i can scribe
  309. # [18:29] <glenn> paulc: sam to chair, adrian to scribe
  310. # [18:29] <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
  311. # [18:30] <glenn> adjourned
  312. # [18:30] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  313. # [18:30] <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
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  315. # [18:30] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  316. # [18:30] <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.417.671.aabb, hober, joesteele, +1.415.595.aacc, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Julian, paulc, [Microsoft], adrianba, glenn, eliot, krisk, Mike,
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  318. # [18:30] <Zakim> ... Mark_Watson, Radhika_Roy, dsinger
  319. # [18:30] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  320. # [18:30] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/08-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot
  321. # [18:30] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  322. # [18:30] <Zakim> -??P19
  323. # [18:30] <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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  325. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Julian
  326. # [18:30] <Zakim> -eliot
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  329. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Joseph_Scheuhammer
  330. # [18:30] <Zakim> -joesteele
  331. # [18:30] <Zakim> -hober
  332. # [18:30] <Zakim> -glenn
  333. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  334. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Mark_Watson
  335. # [18:30] <Zakim> -adrianba
  336. # [18:30] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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  339. # [18:30] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  340. # [18:30] <Zakim> Attendees were +1.417.671.aabb, hober, joesteele, +1.415.595.aacc, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Julian, paulc, [Microsoft], adrianba, glenn, eliot, krisk, Mike, Mark_Watson, Radhika_Roy,
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