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  69. # [17:01] <glenn> trackbot, start meeting
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  72. # [17:01] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-html-wg-irc
  73. # [17:02] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  74. # [17:02] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  75. # [17:02] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  76. # [17:02] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  77. # [17:02] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  78. # [17:02] <trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012
  79. # [17:02] <glenn> zakim, who's here?
  80. # [17:02] <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6
  81. # [17:02] <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, tantek, glenn, ArtB, miketaylr, Lachy, gsnedders, nonge_, karl, lgombos__, drublic, logbot, arronei, shepazu, kennyluck, danielfilho, Jedi, Philip,
  82. # [17:02] <Zakim> ... Hixie, Dashiva, mastensg, hsivonen, ed, webben, hober, slightlyoff, lgombos, pingo, trackbot, heycam|away, hiro_away, inimino, [tm], jmb, krijnh, CIA-1, rektide, paul___irish,
  83. # [17:02] <Zakim> ... johndrinkwater, jgraham, gavin
  84. # [17:02] <glenn> zakim, ??p6 is glenn
  85. # [17:02] <Zakim> +glenn; got it
  86. # [17:02] <tantek> greetings
  87. # [17:02] <glenn> morning
  88. # [17:02] <glenn> Chair: sam
  89. # [17:02] <glenn> Scribe: glenn
  90. # [17:02] <glenn> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html
  91. # [17:03] <ArtB> RRSAgent, make minutes
  92. # [17:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-html-wg-minutes.html ArtB
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  94. # [17:04] <ArtB> RRSAgent, make log Public
  95. # [17:04] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, ArtB
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  97. # [17:05] <glenn> zakim, mute me
  98. # [17:05] <Zakim> sorry, glenn, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
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  101. # [17:06] <glenn> i guess i should talk to myself at this point ... ;)
  102. # [17:06] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  103. # [17:06] <eliot> zakim, microsoft is me
  104. # [17:06] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  105. # [17:06] <Zakim> +hober
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  107. # [17:08] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  109. # [17:08] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  110. # [17:08] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  111. # [17:08] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  112. # [17:08] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  113. # [17:08] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  114. # [17:08] <trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012
  115. # [17:08] <glenn> Chair: rubys
  116. # [17:08] <glenn> Scribe: glenn
  117. # [17:08] <glenn> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html
  118. # [17:08] <Zakim> -eliot
  119. # [17:09] <Zakim> +Sam
  120. # [17:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  121. # [17:09] <eliot> zakim, microsoft is me
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  123. # [17:09] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  124. # [17:09] <Zakim> + +1.415.832.aaaa
  125. # [17:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  126. # [17:10] <krisk> zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  127. # [17:10] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  128. # [17:11] <glenn> Topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, March 22
  129. # [17:11] <glenn> None
  130. # [17:11] <glenn> Topic: New Issues This Week
  131. # [17:11] <glenn> None
  132. # [17:11] <glenn> Topic: Items Closed Last Week
  133. # [17:11] <glenn> ISSUE-187: validity-stability, Agree/Disagree to Amicable Resolution closed Mar 13
  134. # [17:11] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-187.
  135. # [17:11] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0225.html
  136. # [17:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-187 Document conformance has to be stable over the time notes added
  137. # [17:11] <glenn> rubys: no objections
  138. # [17:12] <glenn> ISSUE-80 was incorrectly included
  139. # [17:12] <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-080
  140. # [17:12] <glenn> ISSUE-131: caret-location-API, Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 14
  141. # [17:12] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-131.
  142. # [17:12] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0209.html
  143. # [17:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-131 Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? notes added
  144. # [17:12] <glenn> ISSUE-158: object-content-model, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 14
  145. # [17:12] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-158.
  146. # [17:12] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0198.html
  147. # [17:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-158 HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue notes added
  148. # [17:12] <glenn> ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas, Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 14
  149. # [17:12] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-205.
  150. # [17:12] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0208.html
  151. # [17:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
  152. # [17:12] <glenn> ISSUE-179: av_param, Agree/Disagree to Amicable Resolution closed Mar 15
  153. # [17:12] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-179.
  154. # [17:12] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0277.html
  155. # [17:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-179 {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) notes added
  156. # [17:13] <glenn> Topic: Items Closing This Week
  157. # [17:13] <glenn> ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
  158. # [17:13] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-193.
  159. # [17:13] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0264.html
  160. # [17:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added
  161. # [17:13] <glenn> rubys: will go to CfC shortly
  162. # [17:13] <glenn> ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
  163. # [17:13] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-194.
  164. # [17:13] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0266.html
  165. # [17:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
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  167. # [17:13] <glenn> rubys: have two extension requests
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  169. # [17:13] <glenn> ISSUE-195: form-http-req, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
  170. # [17:13] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-195.
  171. # [17:13] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0263.html
  172. # [17:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added
  173. # [17:14] <glenn> rubys: two proposals, chairs will evaluate
  174. # [17:14] <glenn> ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
  175. # [17:14] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-196.
  176. # [17:14] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0268.html
  177. # [17:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added
  178. # [17:14] <glenn> rubys: no counters, next step CfC
  179. # [17:14] <glenn> ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
  180. # [17:14] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-197.
  181. # [17:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added
  182. # [17:14] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0265.html
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  184. # [17:14] <glenn> ISSUE-199: aria-processing, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
  185. # [17:14] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-199.
  186. # [17:14] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0269.html
  187. # [17:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes notes added
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  189. # [17:14] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  190. # [17:14] <glenn> rubys: will evaluate
  191. # [17:14] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  192. # [17:14] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  193. # [17:14] <glenn> ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 21
  194. # [17:14] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-201.
  195. # [17:14] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0267.html
  196. # [17:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
  197. # [17:15] <glenn> rubys: has ext request
  198. # [17:15] <glenn> ISSUE-190: coding-example, Call for Consensus closes Mar 23
  199. # [17:15] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-190.
  200. # [17:15] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0463.html
  201. # [17:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-190 Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images notes added
  202. # [17:15] <Judy> zakim, code?
  203. # [17:15] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Judy
  204. # [17:15] <glenn> rubys: CfC closes tomorrow
  205. # [17:15] <Zakim> +Judy
  206. # [17:15] <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
  207. # [17:15] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  208. # [17:15] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  209. # [17:15] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  210. # [17:15] <glenn> ISSUE-80: title-alternative, Call for Consensus closes Mar 28
  211. # [17:15] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-80.
  212. # [17:15] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
  213. # [17:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-80 document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content notes added
  214. # [17:15] <glenn> ISSUE-134: tab-states, Revise Change Proposals closes Mar 28
  215. # [17:15] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-134.
  216. # [17:15] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0547.html
  217. # [17:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-134 Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively notes added
  218. # [17:15] <glenn> ISSUE-191: ins-del, Revise Change Proposals closes Mar 28
  219. # [17:15] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-191.
  220. # [17:15] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html
  221. # [17:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-191 Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution notes added
  222. # [17:16] <glenn> ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar 28
  223. # [17:16] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-200.
  224. # [17:16] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0466.html
  225. # [17:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
  226. # [17:16] <glenn> Topic: New Calls this week
  227. # [17:16] <glenn> None
  228. # [17:16] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  229. # [17:16] <glenn> rubys: double checking...
  230. # [17:16] <Zakim> +??P22
  231. # [17:16] <glenn> rubys: two issued
  232. # [17:17] <glenn> ... that weren't in agenda
  233. # [17:17] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0602.html
  234. # [17:17] <glenn> ISSUE-204?
  235. # [17:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-204
  236. # [17:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
  237. # [17:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
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  239. # [17:17] <glenn> rubys: call for alternate CPs or counter CPs
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  241. # [17:17] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
  242. # [17:17] <glenn> ISSUE-80?
  243. # [17:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-80
  244. # [17:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
  245. # [17:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
  246. # [17:17] <glenn> rubys: CfC
  247. # [17:17] <glenn> Topic: New Surveys this week
  248. # [17:18] <glenn> None
  249. # [17:18] <glenn> Topic: Decisions this week
  250. # [17:18] <glenn> Close ISSUE-170 rel-uri-valid by Amicable Resolution
  251. # [17:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0553.html
  252. # [17:18] <glenn> Close ISSUE-179 av_param by Amicable Resolution
  253. # [17:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0554.html
  254. # [17:18] <glenn> Close ISSUE-182 footnote-recommendation by Amicable Resolution
  255. # [17:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0555.html
  256. # [17:18] <glenn> Close ISSUE-187 validity-stability by Amicable Resolution
  257. # [17:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0556.html
  258. # [17:18] <glenn> Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution
  259. # [17:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0557.html
  260. # [17:18] <glenn> Close ISSUE-192 title-attribute by Amicable Resolution
  261. # [17:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0558.html
  262. # [17:18] <glenn> rubys: questions or comments?
  263. # [17:18] <glenn> Topic: Task Force Reports
  264. # [17:19] <glenn> Testing Task Force
  265. # [17:19] <glenn> krisk: met last week, will meet again on 27h
  266. # [17:19] <krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Mar/0005.html
  267. # [17:19] <glenn> s/27h/27th/
  268. # [17:19] <glenn> ... won't fix bug that existed
  269. # [17:19] <krisk> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15042
  270. # [17:20] <glenn> ... canvas tests, listed in notes
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  272. # [17:20] <krisk> Microsoft submitting some Progress and Range Tests
  273. # [17:20] <glenn> rubys: questions?
  274. # [17:20] <glenn> Accessibility Task Force
  275. # [17:21] <glenn> janina?: two main items
  276. # [17:21] <rubys> s/janina?/janina/
  277. # [17:21] <glenn> ... new canvas section coming from editor
  278. # [17:21] <glenn> ... not everything is clear, but one thing is clear: straying into approaches inconsistent with html5 time line
  279. # [17:22] <glenn> ... at least for good a11y support
  280. # [17:22] <glenn> ... so this is a concern
  281. # [17:22] <glenn> ... second avenue, aria attribute (ARIA 1.1) proposal...
  282. # [17:22] <Judy> s/proposal/draft/
  283. # [17:22] <glenn> ... like longdesc (ISSUE-30)
  284. # [17:23] <glenn> ... summarize as some people still want to develop longdesc
  285. # [17:23] <glenn> ... the describe-at attr should apply to more elements than img
  286. # [17:23] <Zakim> +??P43
  287. # [17:23] <glenn> ... aimed at markup, not just html
  288. # [17:23] <glenn> ... e.g. svg
  289. # [17:23] <glenn> ... not quite settled
  290. # [17:23] <glenn> ... maybe 'obsolete but conforming' is acceptable
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  292. # [17:24] <glenn> ... a11y still thinks longdesc is needed today
  293. # [17:24] <glenn> ... longdesc is implemented, but inconsistently
  294. # [17:25] <glenn> ... that's it for now
  295. # [17:25] <glenn> rubys: doesn't believe current proposals describe longdesc as obsolete but conforming
  296. # [17:25] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  297. # [17:25] <glenn> janina: correct
  298. # [17:25] <glenn> rubys: may need new CP or modification
  299. # [17:25] <tantek> Zakim, IPCaller is me
  300. # [17:25] <Zakim> +tantek; got it
  301. # [17:25] <glenn> janina: expects laura is not in favor of "that?"
  302. # [17:25] <tantek> Zakim, mute me
  303. # [17:25] <Zakim> tantek should now be muted
  304. # [17:26] <glenn> ... can beef up proposals
  305. # [17:26] <Judy> s/"that"/obsolete but conforming
  306. # [17:26] <Judy> s/?//
  307. # [17:26] <glenn> ... not to fix described-by but fix ?
  308. # [17:27] <glenn> ... come up with other additional attribute
  309. # [17:27] <Judy> s/"that?"/obsolete but conforming/
  310. # [17:27] <glenn> ... thinks current CP covers problem with described-by
  311. # [17:27] <glenn> rubys: questions? comments?
  312. # [17:27] <glenn> judy: side note: janina has coord request with Paul, but trying to schedule
  313. # [17:28] <glenn> paulc: glad to try
  314. # [17:28] <glenn> rubys: other questions? comments?
  315. # [17:28] <glenn> Topic: Other Business
  316. # [17:28] <glenn> CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs
  317. # [17:28] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
  318. # [17:28] <glenn> Revert request r7023
  319. # [17:28] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0491.html
  320. # [17:29] <glenn> rubys: extension request, chairs trying to sort out
  321. # [17:29] <glenn> F2F registration page
  322. # [17:29] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0488.html
  323. # [17:29] <glenn> rubys: everybody should register
  324. # [17:29] <adrianba> q+
  325. # [17:29] * Zakim sees adrianba on the speaker queue
  326. # [17:29] <glenn> rubys: AOB?
  327. # [17:29] <rubys> ack next
  328. # [17:29] * Zakim sees adrianba at the head of the speaker queue
  329. # [17:29] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  330. # [17:29] <glenn> adrianba: ISSUE-180?
  331. # [17:29] <glenn> ISSUE-180?
  332. # [17:29] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-180
  333. # [17:29] <trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
  334. # [17:29] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
  335. # [17:29] <adrianba> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0511.html
  336. # [17:29] <Zakim> -tantek
  337. # [17:30] <glenn> ... unable to implement decision due to lack of information
  338. # [17:30] <glenn> ... CP should have all details
  339. # [17:30] <glenn> ... no feedback stating otherwise
  340. # [17:30] <glenn> ... wonders about status of this work
  341. # [17:30] <glenn> rubys: not yet applied to spec
  342. # [17:30] <glenn> ... knows of no specific request for clarification, etc.
  343. # [17:31] <glenn> Topic: Scribe for next meeting
  344. # [17:31] <glenn> paulc: will be chairing
  345. # [17:31] <glenn> rubys: is ted available for next meeting?
  346. # [17:31] <glenn> ted: yes
  347. # [17:31] <glenn> ted: volunteers for next meeting
  348. # [17:31] <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
  349. # [17:31] <Zakim> -adrianba
  350. # [17:31] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  351. # [17:31] <Zakim> -hober
  352. # [17:31] <Zakim> -??P43
  353. # [17:31] <glenn> adjourned
  354. # [17:31] <Zakim> -eliot
  355. # [17:31] <Zakim> - +1.415.832.aaaa
  356. # [17:31] <Zakim> -krisk
  357. # [17:32] <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
  358. # [17:32] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  359. # [17:32] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  360. # [17:32] <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been glenn, eliot, hober, Sam, +1.415.832.aaaa, krisk, paulc, Judy, [Microsoft], adrianba, Cynthia_Shelly, tantek
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  362. # [17:32] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  363. # [17:32] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot
  364. # [17:32] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  365. # [17:32] <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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  368. # [17:32] <Zakim> -glenn
  369. # [17:32] <Judy> zakim, who's here?
  370. # [17:32] <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, [Microsoft], Judy, ??P22
  371. # [17:32] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  372. # [17:32] <Zakim> On IRC I see Stevef, janina, dsinger, adrianba, paulc, Judy, rubys, eliot, Zakim, tantek, glenn, ArtB, miketaylr, gsnedders, nonge, karl, lgombos__, drublic, logbot, arronei,
  373. # [17:32] <Zakim> ... shepazu, kennyluck, danielfilho, Jedi, Philip, Hixie, Dashiva, mastensg, hsivonen, ed, webben, hober, slightlyoff, lgombos, pingo, trackbot, heycam|away, hiro_away, inimino,
  374. # [17:32] <Zakim> ... [tm], jmb, krijnh, CIA-1, rektide, paul___irish, johndrinkwater, jgraham, gavin
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  376. # [17:34] * tantek thinks he can make both the WebApps and HTMLWG meetings in May in Mountain View.
  377. # [17:34] <tantek> The meeting attendance survey points to http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/May2012F2FMeeting for the WebApps agenda, but there's no similar page for HTMLWG f2f agenda.
  378. # [17:35] <tantek> Is there a wiki page for the HTMLWG 2012 May f2f?
  379. # [17:35] <Zakim> -Judy
  380. # [17:35] <Zakim> -Sam
  381. # [17:35] <Zakim> -??P22
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  384. # [17:38] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  385. # [17:38] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  386. # [17:38] <Zakim> Attendees were glenn, eliot, hober, Sam, +1.415.832.aaaa, krisk, paulc, Judy, [Microsoft], adrianba, Cynthia_Shelly, tantek
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  416. # [22:44] <tantek> should we add a wiki page for the upcoming HTMLWG f2f to the htmlwg wiki? http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/
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