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  48. # [11:39] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * ad87a79e8de3 r131 build/build.py: Test harness needs files in validator.jar.
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  69. # [18:04] <rubys> Any volunteers to scribe?
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  74. # [18:07] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  81. # [18:07] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  82. # [18:07] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  83. # [18:07] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  84. # [18:07] <trackbot> Date: 05 April 2012
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  86. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  89. # [18:07] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  90. # [18:07] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  91. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Sam
  92. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  93. # [18:08] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  94. # [18:08] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  95. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Mike
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  98. # [18:08] <eliot> zakim, microsoft has me
  99. # [18:08] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  100. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  101. # [18:08] <Zakim> +??P9
  102. # [18:08] <janina> zakim, ??P9 is Janina
  103. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
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  107. # [18:09] <Julian> Zakim, +49.251.280.aabb is me
  108. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  109. # [18:09] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  110. # [18:09] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
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  112. # [18:09] <glenn> zakim, ??p8 is glenn
  113. # [18:09] <Zakim> +glenn; got it
  114. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  115. # [18:10] <hober> Zakim, aaaa is me
  116. # [18:10] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  117. # [18:10] <KevinStreeter> zakim, I am +1.858.735.aacc
  118. # [18:10] <Zakim> +KevinStreeter; got it
  119. # [18:10] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  120. # [18:10] <Zakim> On the phone I see joesteele, krisk, hober, [Microsoft], Sam, Mike, Radhika_Roy, Janina, glenn (muted), Julian (muted), KevinStreeter, [Microsoft.a]
  121. # [18:10] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has eliot
  122. # [18:10] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0001.html
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  124. # [18:10] <krisk> Scribe: krisk
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  126. # [18:10] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
  127. # [18:10] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  128. # [18:10] <krisk> Chair: rubys
  129. # [18:10] <krisk> ACTION items due by Thursday, April 5
  130. # [18:10] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  131. # [18:10] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - items
  132. # [18:11] <krisk> items due by Thursday, April 5
  133. # [18:11] <krisk> None
  134. # [18:11] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  135. # [18:11] <krisk> New Issues This Week
  136. # [18:11] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
  137. # [18:11] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  138. # [18:11] <krisk> None
  139. # [18:11] <krisk> Items Closed Last Week
  140. # [18:11] <krisk> A number...
  141. # [18:11] <krisk> ISSUE-80: title-alternative, Call for Consensus closed Mar 28
  142. # [18:11] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-80.
  143. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-80 document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content notes added
  144. # [18:12] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
  145. # [18:12] <krisk> ISSUE-134: tab-states, Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28
  146. # [18:12] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-134.
  147. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-134 Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively notes added
  148. # [18:12] <krisk> see -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0547.html
  149. # [18:12] <krisk> ISSUE-191: ins-del, Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28
  150. # [18:12] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-191.
  151. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-191 Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution notes added
  152. # [18:12] <krisk> issue has been postponed - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html
  153. # [18:12] <krisk> ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 28
  154. # [18:12] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-200.
  155. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
  156. # [18:13] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0466.html
  157. # [18:13] <krisk> two proposals have been submitted that the co-chairs will evaluate
  158. # [18:13] <krisk> ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
  159. # [18:13] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-193.
  160. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added
  161. # [18:13] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0687.html
  162. # [18:13] <krisk> Resulted in a decision
  163. # [18:13] <krisk> ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
  164. # [18:13] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-196.
  165. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added
  166. # [18:13] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0688.html
  167. # [18:13] <krisk> This also resulted in a decision
  168. # [18:14] <krisk> ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
  169. # [18:14] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-197.
  170. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added
  171. # [18:14] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0689.html
  172. # [18:14] <krisk> This also resulted in a decision
  173. # [18:14] <krisk> ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Revise Change Proposals closes Apr 2
  174. # [18:14] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-203.
  175. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added
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  177. # [18:14] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0550.html
  178. # [18:14] <krisk> proposals have been updated, not actions taken
  179. # [18:14] <rubys> s/have been/have not been/
  180. # [18:15] <krisk> ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Call for Counter Proposals closes Apr 3
  181. # [18:15] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-198.
  182. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added
  183. # [18:15] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0222.html
  184. # [18:15] <krisk> Later in the agenda we'll see a CfC for this issue
  185. # [18:16] <krisk> Next Agenda Item - Items Closing This Week
  186. # [18:16] <krisk> ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Counter Proposals extension closes Apr 5
  187. # [18:16] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-194.
  188. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
  189. # [18:16] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0685.html
  190. # [18:16] <krisk> Next Agenda Item New Calls this week
  191. # [18:17] <krisk> Actually the next agenda item is Items closing next week
  192. # [18:17] <krisk> ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Counter Proposals extension closes Apr 11
  193. # [18:17] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-201.
  194. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
  195. # [18:17] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0686.html
  196. # [18:17] <krisk> Any questions or comments on the above?
  197. # [18:18] <krisk> Agenda Item New Calls this week
  198. # [18:18] <krisk> ISSUE-184: data-element, Call for Consensus closes Apr 11
  199. # [18:18] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-184.
  200. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-184 Add a data element notes added
  201. # [18:18] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0026.html
  202. # [18:18] <krisk> As mentioned above ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Call for Consensus closes Apr 11
  203. # [18:18] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0025.html
  204. # [18:18] <krisk> Next Agenda Item New Surveys this week
  205. # [18:19] <krisk> We have one new survey this week
  206. # [18:19] <krisk> ISSUE-158: object-content-model - Straw Poll for Objections
  207. # [18:19] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-158.
  208. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-158 HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue notes added
  209. # [18:19] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0784.html
  210. # [18:19] <krisk> Next up is 'Decisions this week'
  211. # [18:19] <krisk> ISSUE-80 Working Group Decision
  212. # [18:20] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0785.html
  213. # [18:20] <krisk> ISSUE-191 Postponed
  214. # [18:20] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0783.html
  215. # [18:20] <krisk> ISSUE-193 Working Group Decision
  216. # [18:20] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0786.html
  217. # [18:20] <krisk> The CfC passed
  218. # [18:20] <krisk> ISSUE-196 Working Group Decision
  219. # [18:20] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0787.html
  220. # [18:21] <krisk> This also passed the CfC
  221. # [18:21] <krisk> ISSUE-197 Working Group Decision
  222. # [18:21] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0788.html
  223. # [18:21] <krisk> This also passed a CfC
  224. # [18:21] <krisk> Next Up Is Task Force Reports
  225. # [18:22] <krisk> Accessibility Task Force Update
  226. # [18:22] <krisk> We conitune to work on issues
  227. # [18:23] <krisk> key item might ask a postpone on issue 201
  228. # [18:23] <krisk> would like to discuss this at the F2F in May
  229. # [18:23] <krisk> The hope and expectations is that in the F2F we can agree on a resolution that works for everyone in the group
  230. # [18:24] <paulc> See http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/May2012Agenda#Agenda_May_3
  231. # [18:24] <krisk> A good time would be on thursday afternoon at the F2F to discuss
  232. # [18:24] <krisk> Sam - are you asking for an extension of postponment?
  233. # [18:25] <krisk> Janina - we are asking for an extension
  234. # [18:25] <rubys> s/extension of/extension or/
  235. # [18:25] <krisk> Next Update Testing Task Force
  236. # [18:25] <krisk> We will meet April 10th
  237. # [18:26] <krisk> Microsoft submitted some range/progress tests
  238. # [18:26] <krisk> See -> http://www.w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/range/range.htm
  239. # [18:26] <krisk> See -> http://www.w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/progress/progress.htm
  240. # [18:26] <krisk> James and Mike Smith have mirrored the Hg Repository to Git
  241. # [18:27] <krisk> See -> https://github.com/w3c/html-testsuite
  242. # [18:27] <krisk> The hope is that this helps people participate and review tests more effectively
  243. # [18:27] <MikeSmith> q+ to say that I need some help setting up the secure ports for Jetty (for WebSockets testing)
  244. # [18:27] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  245. # [18:27] <krisk> The git hub is read-only so it's only one way
  246. # [18:28] <rubys> ack next
  247. # [18:28] * Zakim sees MikeSmith at the head of the speaker queue
  248. # [18:28] <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say that I need some help setting up the secure ports for Jetty (for WebSockets testing)
  249. # [18:28] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  250. # [18:29] <krisk> Webapps related - mike smith could use some help with the websocket server setup (secure ports)
  251. # [18:29] <krisk> Any other questions for the testing task force?
  252. # [18:30] <krisk> Next Up Is any other business
  253. # [18:30] <krisk> Call for agenda topics for May face-to-face meeting
  254. # [18:30] <krisk> Please update the wiki
  255. # [18:30] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0006.html
  256. # [18:30] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/May2012Agenda
  257. # [18:30] <krisk> Next up is the CfC: Create Media Task Force
  258. # [18:30] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0007.html
  259. # [18:31] <krisk> This closes on tues April 10th
  260. # [18:31] <krisk> Heartbeat Documents Published
  261. # [18:31] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0774.html
  262. # [18:31] <krisk> Thanks Mike Smith!
  263. # [18:32] <krisk> Next Up Is ISSUE 134: change proposal review
  264. # [18:32] <krisk> Two proposals
  265. # [18:32] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0781.html
  266. # [18:32] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0782.html
  267. # [18:32] <krisk> Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2012-03-19 - 2012-03-25
  268. # [18:32] <krisk> This covers business beyond HTML5, for example WebApps
  269. # [18:32] <krisk> http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/03/openweb-weekly-30.html
  270. # [18:33] <krisk> Any other business that people would like to discuss?
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  272. # [18:33] <krisk> None mentioned
  273. # [18:33] <krisk> Scribe for next meeting?
  274. # [18:34] <krisk> hober would like to scribe
  275. # [18:34] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  276. # [18:34] <krisk> Adjournment
  277. # [18:34] <Zakim> -Janina
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  279. # [18:34] <Zakim> -hober
  280. # [18:34] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  281. # [18:34] <Zakim> -KevinStreeter
  282. # [18:34] * Parts: janina (janina@69.140.165.18)
  283. # [18:34] <Zakim> -Sam
  284. # [18:34] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  285. # [18:34] <Zakim> -adrianba
  286. # [18:34] <Zakim> -joesteele
  287. # [18:34] <Zakim> -glenn
  288. # [18:34] <krisk> RRSAgent, make logs public
  289. # [18:34] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, krisk
  290. # [18:34] <Zakim> -Julian
  291. # [18:35] <krisk> rrsagent, generate minutes
  292. # [18:35] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/05-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
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  295. # [18:35] <MikeSmith> krisk:
  296. # [18:36] <MikeSmith> 2012-04-05 16:27:46.176:WARN:oejuc.AbstractLifeCycle:FAILED SslContextFactory@61c80b01(keystore.chain,keystore.chain): java.io.FileNotFoundException: /opt/
  297. # [18:36] <MikeSmith> jetty/webapps/echo-test/keystore.chain (No such file or directory)
  298. # [18:36] <MikeSmith> java.io.FileNotFoundException: /opt/jetty/webapps/echo-test/keystore.chain (No such file or directory)
  299. # [18:36] <MikeSmith> missing "keystore.chain" file
  300. # [18:36] <krisk> OK this helps
  301. # [18:37] <krisk> I'll take a peek on my end and see what needs to be done
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  303. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Mike
  304. # [18:41] <Zakim> -krisk
  305. # [18:41] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  306. # [18:41] <Zakim> Attendees were joesteele, +1.619.846.aaaa, krisk, Sam, Mike, eliot, Radhika_Roy, Janina, Julian, +1.858.735.aacc, glenn, [Microsoft], hober, KevinStreeter, paulc, adrianba
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  339. # [23:54] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 9d445b55306e r434 validator/src/nu/validator/messages/MessageEmitterAdapter.java: Don't emit info-level messages in gnu output.
  340. # Session Close: Fri Apr 06 00:00:01 2012

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