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  102. # [18:06] * hober MikeSmith: i didn't catch the right bus to be able to scribe today; i'll be phone-only for half the call. sorry! can you let rubys know?
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  104. # [18:06] <MikeSmith> hober: rubys here now
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  106. # [18:06] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  109. # [18:07] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/04/19-html-wg-irc
  110. # [18:07] * hober rubys: i didn't catch the right bus to be able to scribe today; i'll be phone-only for half the call. sorry!
  111. # [18:07] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  112. # [18:07] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  114. # [18:07] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  115. # [18:07] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  116. # [18:07] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  117. # [18:07] <trackbot> Date: 19 April 2012
  118. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  119. # [18:07] <Zakim> +??P30
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  121. # [18:07] <glenn> zakim, ??p30 is glenn
  122. # [18:07] <Zakim> +glenn; got it
  123. # [18:07] <rubys> hober: ack. everybody else: any volunteers to scribe?
  124. # [18:08] <krisk> zakim, Microsoft is me
  125. # [18:08] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
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  127. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Sam
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  129. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  130. # [18:09] <Zakim> +??P42
  131. # [18:09] <Zakim> +hober
  132. # [18:09] <glenn> i can scribe, but will remain on mute
  133. # [18:09] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0006.html
  134. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  135. # [18:09] <rubys> thanks glenn!
  136. # [18:09] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
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  138. # [18:09] <glenn> scribenick: glenn
  139. # [18:09] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  140. # [18:09] <glenn> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, April 19
  141. # [18:09] <glenn> none
  142. # [18:10] <glenn> topic: New Issues This Week
  143. # [18:10] <glenn> none
  144. # [18:10] <glenn> topic: Items closed last week
  145. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  146. # [18:10] <glenn> ISSUE-184?
  147. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-184
  148. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
  149. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
  150. # [18:10] <glenn> ISSUE-198?
  151. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-198
  152. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- open
  153. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
  154. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  155. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Mark_Watson
  156. # [18:10] <glenn> ISSUE-201?
  157. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-201
  158. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
  159. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
  160. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
  161. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
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  163. # [18:11] <glenn> ISSUE-183?
  164. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-183
  165. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
  166. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
  167. # [18:11] <Zakim> +??P26
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  169. # [18:11] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  170. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Mike
  171. # [18:11] <glenn> topic: Items closing next week
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  173. # [18:11] <glenn> s/next/this/
  174. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer
  175. # [18:11] <janina> zakim, ??P26 is Janina
  176. # [18:11] <glenn> ISSUE-204?
  177. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-204
  178. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
  179. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
  180. # [18:12] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
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  182. # [18:12] <glenn> ISSUE-204: Call for Counter Proposals closes Apr 18
  183. # [18:12] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-204.
  184. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-204 Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements notes added
  185. # [18:12] <tantek> greetings, scribe, Zakim, I am attending by IRC only today.
  186. # [18:12] <glenn> ???: some proposals may be withdrawn, should sort out today
  187. # [18:12] <rubys> s/???/cynthia/
  188. # [18:12] <glenn> topic: Items closing next week
  189. # [18:12] <glenn> none
  190. # [18:13] <glenn> topic: New calls this week
  191. # [18:13] <glenn> none
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  194. # [18:13] <glenn> topic: New surveys this week
  195. # [18:13] <glenn> none, but might be one coming up shortly
  196. # [18:13] <glenn> topic: Decisions this week
  197. # [18:13] <JVoracek>
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  199. # [18:13] <glenn> ISSUE-184: Data Element adopted by Amicable Consensus
  200. # [18:13] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-184.
  201. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-184 Add a data element notes added
  202. # [18:13] <glenn> ISSUE-184?
  203. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-184
  204. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
  205. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
  206. # [18:14] <glenn> topic: Task force reports
  207. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
  208. # [18:14] <glenn> topic: Testing Task Force
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  210. # [18:14] <krisk> We met on 4/10
  211. # [18:14] <krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Apr/0005.html
  212. # [18:14] <glenn> krisk: no new bugs
  213. # [18:14] <glenn> ... reviewed canvas patch from ms2ger, see IRC logs
  214. # [18:15] <glenn> s/patch/test
  215. # [18:15] <glenn> s/patch/test/
  216. # [18:15] <krisk> we meet agin on 4/24th
  217. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
  218. # [18:15] <rubys> s/agin/again/
  219. # [18:15] <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
  220. # [18:15] <glenn> topic: Accessibility Task Force
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  222. # [18:15] <krisk> s/agin/again/
  223. # [18:15] <glenn> ??? focusing on issue 204
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  225. # [18:16] <glenn> ... forwarded two last night
  226. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
  227. # [18:16] <glenn> s/two/two proposals/
  228. # [18:16] <glenn> [who is talking?]
  229. # [18:17] <glenn> ... will take up review of 194
  230. # [18:17] * rubys janina is talking
  231. # [18:17] <glenn> s/???/janina/
  232. # [18:17] <glenn> topic: Other Business
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  234. # [18:17] <glenn> CfC: Create Media Task Force - deadline now April 18
  235. # [18:18] <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0074.html
  236. # [18:18] <glenn> janina: needs discussion and involvement from accessibility
  237. # [18:19] <glenn> ISSUE-133: modal-attribute: CLOSED
  238. # [18:19] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-133.
  239. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) notes added
  240. # [18:19] <glenn> ISSUE-194: full-transcript: change proposal reviews
  241. # [18:19] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-194.
  242. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
  243. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
  244. # [18:19] <glenn> ISSUE-195: form-http-req: change proposal reviews
  245. # [18:19] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-195.
  246. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added
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  248. # [18:19] <glenn> ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy: change proposal needs to be revised
  249. # [18:19] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-198.
  250. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added
  251. # [18:20] <glenn> ISSUE-199: aria-processing: change proposal reviews
  252. # [18:20] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-199.
  253. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes notes added
  254. # [18:20] <glenn> ISSUE-200: legend-placement: change proposal reviews
  255. # [18:20] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-200.
  256. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
  257. # [18:20] <glenn> ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback: delaying action until after the F2F
  258. # [18:20] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-201.
  259. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
  260. # [18:20] <Zakim> +milan
  261. # [18:21] <glenn> ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas: change proposal reviews
  262. # [18:21] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-205.
  263. # [18:21] <trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
  264. # [18:21] <glenn> Open Web Platform Summary
  265. # [18:21] <glenn> http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/04/openweb-weekly-31.html
  266. # [18:21] <glenn> topic: AOB
  267. # [18:21] <glenn> none
  268. # [18:21] <glenn> topic: Scribe for next meeting
  269. # [18:22] <krisk> I can scribe
  270. # [18:22] <glenn> none
  271. # [18:22] <glenn> krisk will scribe
  272. # [18:22] <glenn> topic: Adjournment
  273. # [18:22] <Zakim> -hober
  274. # [18:22] <paulc> Thanks, Sam
  275. # [18:22] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  276. # [18:22] <glenn> adjourned
  277. # [18:22] <Zakim> -Sam
  278. # [18:22] <Zakim> -Mike
  279. # [18:22] <Zakim> -??P0
  280. # [18:22] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  281. # [18:22] <Zakim> -Janina
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  283. # [18:22] <Zakim> -??P42
  284. # [18:22] <Zakim> -krisk
  285. # [18:22] <Zakim> -Mark_Watson
  286. # [18:22] <Zakim> -adrianba
  287. # [18:22] * Parts: janina (janina@69.140.165.18)
  288. # [18:22] <glenn> rrsagent, publish minutes
  289. # [18:22] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/19-html-wg-minutes.html glenn
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  291. # [18:22] <Zakim> -milan
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  293. # [18:22] <krisk> Hey Mikesmith do you have some time to chat on IRC?
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  301. # [18:37] <MikeSmith> krisk, I will in about 10 minutes
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  307. # [18:45] <MikeSmith> krisk, back now
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  310. # [18:58] <krisk> Hey mike I have another module to add to the websocket server
  311. # [18:58] <MikeSmith> OK
  312. # [18:58] <krisk> Though in the past you had a suggestion to make it easier on your side to add modules
  313. # [18:58] <krisk> I didn't understand exactly what you ment in the email(s)
  314. # [18:59] <krisk> could you explain or suggest how you would like this to be setup?
  315. # [19:00] <MikeSmith> hang on gimme a minute to look at the code again
  316. # [19:01] <krisk> feel free to send it in email as well if you need more time to gather your thoughts
  317. # [19:02] <MikeSmith> no, let's do it now
  318. # [19:04] <MikeSmith> krisk, did you check those java sources into dvcs.w3.org?
  319. # [19:05] <MikeSmith> ah yeah
  320. # [19:05] <krisk> No but I can check them in, it will only take a few minutes
  321. # [19:05] <MikeSmith> no, I mean the previous onese
  322. # [19:06] <MikeSmith> I see they are at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/file/tip/WebSockets/tests/jetty/echo
  323. # [19:06] <MikeSmith> so OK
  324. # [19:06] <krisk> correct that this the current one
  325. # [19:06] <MikeSmith> krisk: so now my question
  326. # [19:07] <MikeSmith> is your other module a class like EntryPoint? or is it a class like TestServer?
  327. # [19:07] <MikeSmith> hmm, I don't think it matters either way
  328. # [19:07] <krisk> It has both
  329. # [19:07] <MikeSmith> OK
  330. # [19:08] <MikeSmith> so what port does it run on?
  331. # [19:10] <krisk> It would be the same ports
  332. # [19:11] <MikeSmith> so I don't see how that would work without shutting down one or the other
  333. # [19:11] <MikeSmith> are you guys running them that way internally?
  334. # [19:11] <MikeSmith> if so, I'd really like to know how
  335. # [19:12] <krisk> We could put them on different ports
  336. # [19:12] <MikeSmith> the class you sent me, I am calling it from the java command this way:
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  338. # [19:13] <MikeSmith> yeah, I don't would like to avoid opening up N different ports for N different classes
  339. # [19:13] <MikeSmith> I am calling the existing EntryPoint class you sent me this way:
  340. # [19:13] <krisk> I suspect that we won't need many more classes
  341. # [19:14] <MikeSmith> OK
  342. # [19:14] <MikeSmith> so if you check in the code I will get it deployed and will open up new ports for it
  343. # [19:14] <krisk> Though we have it such that the path is differnet
  344. # [19:15] <MikeSmith> path?
  345. # [19:15] <MikeSmith> the class name?
  346. # [19:15] <krisk> e.g. wss://foo.com/echo
  347. # [19:15] <krisk> and wss://foo.com/control
  348. # [19:15] <MikeSmith> yeah, that's fine
  349. # [19:15] <MikeSmith> that part is no problem
  350. # [19:16] <krisk> Ok I'll push the files into Hg and send you an email
  351. # [19:16] <MikeSmith> thanks man
  352. # [19:16] <krisk> You'll need to make a simalar modification for the secure ports like the previous configuration on your end
  353. # [19:16] <krisk> thanks and have a good day/night
  354. # [19:18] <MikeSmith> yep
  355. # [19:18] <MikeSmith> cheers
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  360. # [19:39] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  361. # [19:39] <Zakim> Attendees were glenn, krisk, Sam, Radhika_Roy, hober, adrianba, [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly, Mark_Watson, Mark_Vickers, Mike, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Janina, milan
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