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  109. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> action-216?
  110. # [17:41] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-216
  111. # [17:41] <trackbot> ACTION-216 -- Michael Cooper to update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's -- due 2012-05-24 -- OPEN
  112. # [17:41] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/216
  113. # [17:46] <MikeSmith> issue-204?
  114. # [17:46] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-204
  115. # [17:46] <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
  116. # [17:46] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
  117. # [17:47] <MikeSmith> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/thread.html#msg129 latest issue 204 thread
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  122. # [18:07] <glenn> zakim, who's here?
  123. # [18:07] <Zakim> sorry, glenn, I don't know what conference this is
  124. # [18:07] <Zakim> On IRC I see frankolivier, mattkelly, nesta_, icaaq, MikeSmith, ArtB, vimeo_joe, danielfilho, glenn, davidb, kennyluck, nonge, hsivonen, drublic, logbot, rektide, miketaylr,
  125. # [18:07] <Zakim> ... lgombos, arronei, timeless, slightlyoff, ed, Dashiva, Hixie, hiro, trackbot, hober, shepazu, gavin, krijnh, johndrinkwater, Jedi, paul___irish, odinho, jgraham, jmb, Philip,
  126. # [18:07] <Zakim> ... heycam|away, decadance, [tm], gsnedders, inimino, CIA-1
  127. # [18:07] <glenn> zakim, this is html_wg
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  129. # [18:08] <Zakim> ok, glenn; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
  130. # [18:08] <glenn> zakim, who's here?
  131. # [18:08] <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P4
  132. # [18:08] <Zakim> On IRC I see paulc, Zakim, frankolivier, mattkelly, nesta_, icaaq, MikeSmith, ArtB, vimeo_joe, danielfilho, glenn, davidb, kennyluck, nonge, hsivonen, drublic, logbot, rektide,
  133. # [18:08] <Zakim> ... miketaylr, lgombos, arronei, timeless, slightlyoff, ed, Dashiva, Hixie, hiro, trackbot, hober, shepazu, gavin, krijnh, johndrinkwater, Jedi, paul___irish, odinho, jgraham, jmb,
  134. # [18:08] <glenn> zakim, ??p4 is me
  135. # [18:08] <Zakim> ... Philip, heycam|away, decadance, [tm], gsnedders, inimino, CIA-1
  136. # [18:08] <Zakim> +glenn; got it
  137. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[GVoice]
  138. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  139. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  140. # [18:08] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  141. # [18:08] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  142. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  143. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  144. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Mike
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  149. # [18:12] <paulc> Good morning Sam
  150. # [18:13] <Zakim> + +1.613.287.aabb
  151. # [18:13] <paulc> Who else from Ottawa just joined?
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  153. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Sam
  154. # [18:13] <Zakim> +??P14
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  156. # [18:14] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  157. # [18:16] <tantek> Good morning HTMLWG
  158. # [18:17] <paulc> zakim, who is on the call?
  159. # [18:17] <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, [GVoice], [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly, Mike, +1.858.677.aaaa, +1.613.287.aabb, Sam, ??P14, [Microsoft.a]
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  161. # [18:17] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  162. # [18:18] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
  163. # [18:18] <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, [GVoice], [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly, Mike, +1.858.677.aaaa, +1.613.287.aabb, Sam, ??P14, [Microsoft.a]
  164. # [18:18] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  165. # [18:18] <janina> zakim, ??P14 is Janina
  166. # [18:18] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
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  168. # [18:19] <mjs> hi all
  169. # [18:19] <mjs> about to dial
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  172. # [18:20] <rubys> chair: mjs
  173. # [18:20] <rubys> scribe: rubys
  174. # [18:20] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0019.html
  175. # [18:20] <jaymunro> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  176. # [18:20] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  177. # [18:20] <rubys> zakim, who is on the call?
  178. # [18:20] <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, [GVoice], [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly, Mike, +1.858.677.aaaa, +1.613.287.aabb, Sam, Janina, jaymunro, +1.415.595.aacc
  179. # [18:20] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  180. # [18:21] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  181. # [18:21] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  183. # [18:21] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/05/24-html-wg-irc
  184. # [18:21] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  185. # [18:21] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  186. # [18:21] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  187. # [18:21] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  188. # [18:21] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  189. # [18:21] <trackbot> Date: 24 May 2012
  190. # [18:21] <rubys> (12:12:33 PM) rubys: chair: mjs
  191. # [18:21] <rubys> (12:12:37 PM) rubys: scribe: rubys
  192. # [18:21] <rubys> (12:12:42 PM) rubys: agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0019.html
  193. # [18:21] <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, May 24
  194. # [18:21] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  195. # [18:21] <rubys> ACTION-211?
  196. # [18:21] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-211
  197. # [18:21] <trackbot> ACTION-211 -- Sam Ruby to ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 -- due 2012-05-24 -- OPEN
  198. # [18:21] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/211
  199. # [18:21] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  200. # [18:21] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  201. # [18:22] <rubys> mjs: ted gave an update in email, unification with sylvia no longer seems like, new target end of week
  202. # [18:22] <rubys> action-211 due 26 may
  203. # [18:22] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-211.
  204. # [18:22] <trackbot> ACTION-211 Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 due date now 26 may
  205. # [18:22] <rubys> ACTION-213?
  206. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-213
  207. # [18:22] <trackbot> ACTION-213 -- Sam Ruby to get JF to deliver a revised ISSUE-194 change proposal by next friday -- due 2012-05-24 -- OPEN
  208. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/213
  209. # [18:23] <rubys> mjs: looks like sylvia is drafting the proposal, but I'm not sure if it is complete.
  210. # [18:23] <nesta_> zakim hi
  211. # [18:23] <nesta_> ?
  212. # [18:23] <rubys> janina: you are correct, proposal is nearly complete, only small tweaks left. Should be complete over the weekend
  213. # [18:24] <rubys> action-213 due 31 may
  214. # [18:24] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-213.
  215. # [18:24] <trackbot> ACTION-213 Get JF to deliver a revised ISSUE-194 change proposal by next friday due date now 31 may
  216. # [18:25] <rubys> ACTION-218?
  217. # [18:25] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-218
  218. # [18:25] <trackbot> ACTION-218 -- Paul Cotton to determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference -- due 2012-05-22 -- OPEN
  219. # [18:25] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/218
  220. # [18:25] <rubys> action-216?
  221. # [18:25] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-216
  222. # [18:25] <trackbot> ACTION-216 -- Michael Cooper to update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's -- due 2012-05-24 -- OPEN
  223. # [18:25] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/216
  224. # [18:25] <rubys> janina: michael and ted are playing tag...
  225. # [18:25] <rubys> mjs: target?
  226. # [18:26] <rubys> janina: next week
  227. # [18:26] <rubys> action-216 due 31 may
  228. # [18:26] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-216.
  229. # [18:26] <trackbot> ACTION-216 Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's due date now 31 may
  230. # [18:26] <rubys> ACTION-218?
  231. # [18:26] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-218
  232. # [18:26] <trackbot> ACTION-218 -- Paul Cotton to determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference -- due 2012-05-22 -- OPEN
  233. # [18:26] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/218
  234. # [18:26] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0135.html
  235. # [18:27] <paulc> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/html-media/results
  236. # [18:27] <rubys> paulc: about 2 dozen responses so far
  237. # [18:27] <rubys> paulc: survey is open to non-wg members in the hopes of soliciting new members. Mike has confirmed that some Japanese based companies have responded
  238. # [18:27] <rubys> paulc: the survey pre-computes the most likely candidate
  239. # [18:28] <rubys> paulc: once it closes the chairs will have to evaluate the response
  240. # [18:28] <MikeSmith> q+ to comment on survey results
  241. # [18:28] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  242. # [18:28] <rubys> paulc: it seems to be working
  243. # [18:28] <mjs> ack MikeSmith
  244. # [18:28] <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to comment on survey results
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  247. # [18:28] <rubys> mike: I wanted to make sure that some people in Japan were able to respond, and the two people I wanted to respond did
  248. # [18:29] <rubys> mike: there is no good time... it looks like the way the survey responses are leading it will end up in the middle of the night in Australia and new zealand
  249. # [18:29] <rubys> mike: not sure how strong sylvia's desire is to call in
  250. # [18:30] <rubys> mike: just wanted to make sure that everybody had a chance to respond
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  252. # [18:31] <rubys> janina: we handled this pain by asking europe to do late evening and that permitted australia to participate in early morning
  253. # [18:31] <rubys> paulc: that time (2100 UTC) is 3rd and 6th place; thanks to mike to fixing the survey
  254. # [18:31] <rubys> paulc: I sent a reminder to the htmlwg list, I'll go ahead and forward it to the a11y list
  255. # [18:32] <rubys> topic: New Issues This Week
  256. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: none
  257. # [18:32] <Zakim> - +1.858.677.aaaa
  258. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: we continue to have one tracker request; that request is likely to turn into a LC2 issue
  259. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: Items Closed Last Week
  260. # [18:32] <rubys> issue-205?
  261. # [18:32] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-205
  262. # [18:32] <trackbot> ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. -- open
  263. # [18:32] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
  264. # [18:33] <rubys> mjs: I don't recall whether we got an update to it
  265. # [18:33] <rubys> mjs: the chairs will look into that. questions/comments?
  266. # [18:33] <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week
  267. # [18:33] <rubys> none
  268. # [18:34] <rubys> topic New Calls this week
  269. # [18:34] <rubys> mjs: none
  270. # [18:34] <rubys> topic: New Surveys this week
  271. # [18:34] <rubys> mjs: none
  272. # [18:34] <rubys> topic: Decisions this week
  273. # [18:34] <rubys> mjs: none
  274. # [18:34] <rubys> topic: Task Force Reports
  275. # [18:34] <rubys> topic: Testing Task Force
  276. # [18:35] <rubys> mjs: kris replied by email that he is not available this week
  277. # [18:35] <rubys> mjs: anybody else with an update?
  278. # [18:35] <rubys> topic: Accessibility Task Force
  279. # [18:35] <rubys> janina: we've discussed some of this in action items previously in this meeting
  280. # [18:35] <rubys> janina: 204 is out of our bailiwick
  281. # [18:36] <rubys> janina: we are continuing to work on a reopen request for meta generator 31c... actively worked on... judy was sick over the weekend, may go into next week
  282. # [18:36] <rubys> mike: that covers it
  283. # [18:36] <rubys> mjs: questions?
  284. # [18:37] <rubys> topic: Other Business
  285. # [18:37] <rubys> issue-204?
  286. # [18:37] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-204
  287. # [18:37] <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
  288. # [18:37] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
  289. # [18:37] <rubys> mjs: some updates have been made since the agenda was posted
  290. # [18:38] <rubys> mjs: ted looked at the 204 proposal, and opened up a thread with jonas
  291. # [18:38] <rubys> mjs: jonas has suggested a few changes, as has ted
  292. # [18:38] <rubys> mjs: haven't yet seen responses to ted and jonas's responses
  293. # [18:39] <rubys> mjs: benjamin has responded... we are also interested in what the a11y tf thinks
  294. # [18:39] <rubys> janina: was the a11y tf cc'ed?
  295. # [18:40] <rubys> mjs: it looks like jonas's comment was cc'ed others dropped the a11y list
  296. # [18:40] <rubys> paulc: I'll forward the thread
  297. # [18:40] <rubys> mjs: any other comments on issue-204?
  298. # [18:40] <glenn> i can scribe
  299. # [18:40] <rubys> topic: Scribe for next meeting
  300. # [18:41] <rubys> paulc: my turn to chair
  301. # [18:41] <rubys> mjs: thanks glenn!
  302. # [18:41] <rubys> topic: Adjournment
  303. # [18:41] <Zakim> - +1.613.287.aabb
  304. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Mike
  305. # [18:41] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aacc
  306. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  307. # [18:41] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  308. # [18:41] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/24-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
  309. # [18:41] <Zakim> -glenn
  310. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Janina
  311. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Sam
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  313. # [18:41] <Zakim> -adrianba
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  317. # [18:42] <Zakim> -jaymunro
  318. # [18:43] <Zakim> -[GVoice]
  319. # [18:43] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  320. # [18:43] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  321. # [18:43] <Zakim> Attendees were glenn, [GVoice], Cynthia_Shelly, paulc, Mike, +1.858.677.aaaa, +1.613.287.aabb, Sam, [Microsoft], Janina, +1.415.595.aacc, jaymunro, adrianba
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