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  10. # [01:51] <WDFQ-Users> Live as Water because it has taught us more, read more my post on http://water-dragon-friend-quotes.blogspot.com/2012/06/live-as-water-law-quotes.html, and give your comment ....
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  93. # [18:09] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  94. # [18:09] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  96. # [18:09] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-html-wg-irc
  97. # [18:09] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  98. # [18:09] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  100. # [18:09] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  101. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  102. # [18:09] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  103. # [18:09] <trackbot> Date: 07 June 2012
  104. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[GVoice]
  105. # [18:10] <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
  106. # [18:10] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  107. # [18:10] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  108. # [18:10] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  109. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  110. # [18:10] <ddorwin> zakim, [GVoice] is me
  111. # [18:10] <Zakim> +ddorwin; got it
  112. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Sam
  113. # [18:10] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0026.html
  114. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
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  116. # [18:11] <jaymunro> zakim, [microsoft] is me
  117. # [18:11] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  118. # [18:11] <glenn> ScribeNick: glenn
  119. # [18:11] <Zakim> +eliot
  120. # [18:11] <glenn> Chair: Sam
  121. # [18:12] <glenn> Topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, June 7
  122. # [18:12] <glenn> ACTION-217: Create an updated Caret ring focus (Rich, Ted, Frank)
  123. # [18:12] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-217.
  124. # [18:12] <trackbot> ACTION-217 Create an updated Caret ring focus (Rich, Ted, Frank) ISSUE-201 CP notes added
  125. # [18:12] <Zakim> +KevinStreeter
  126. # [18:12] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0016.html
  127. # [18:12] <dsinger> issue-201?
  128. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-201
  129. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
  130. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
  131. # [18:12] <glenn> rubys: any updates?
  132. # [18:13] <glenn> paulc: some discussion on TF happened
  133. # [18:13] <glenn> ... cover under TF reporrt
  134. # [18:13] <Zakim> +??P21
  135. # [18:13] <glenn> ACTION-219?
  136. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-219
  137. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-219 -- Edward O'Connor to review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a -- due 2012-06-07 -- OPEN
  138. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/219
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  140. # [18:13] <glenn> paulc: ted asked for extension
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  143. # [18:14] <glenn> ... look undeer announced list
  144. # [18:14] <glenn> s/undeer/under/
  145. # [18:14] <rubys> action-219 due 14 June
  146. # [18:14] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-219.
  147. # [18:14] <trackbot> ACTION-219 Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a due date now 14 June
  148. # [18:14] <glenn> ACTION-219: extend one week to 14th
  149. # [18:14] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-219.
  150. # [18:14] <trackbot> ACTION-219 Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a notes added
  151. # [18:14] <paulc> Ted's request: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0027.html
  152. # [18:15] <glenn> Topic: New Issues this Week
  153. # [18:15] <glenn> none
  154. # [18:15] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  155. # [18:15] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  156. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Mike
  157. # [18:15] <glenn> Topic: Items Closed last Week
  158. # [18:15] <glenn> none
  159. # [18:15] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  160. # [18:15] <Zakim> On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, [Apple], ??P3, +25686aaaa, jaymunro, ddorwin, [Microsoft.a], Sam, [Microsoft.aa], eliot, KevinStreeter, ??P21, Mike
  161. # [18:15] <Zakim> jaymunro has paulc
  162. # [18:15] <Zakim> [Apple] has dsinger
  163. # [18:15] <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
  164. # [18:15] <glenn> ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas, Survey closes Jun 7
  165. # [18:15] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-205.
  166. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
  167. # [18:15] <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
  168. # [18:16] <glenn> ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Write Alternate or Counter-Proposal
  169. # [18:16] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-203.
  170. # [18:16] <glenn> closes Jun 10
  171. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added
  172. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Julian_Reschke
  173. # [18:16] <glenn> Topic: New Calls this week
  174. # [18:16] <glenn> none
  175. # [18:16] <paulc> The Huawei rep is probably one of the ??P items in the list of phone participants.
  176. # [18:16] <glenn> Topic: New Surveys This Week
  177. # [18:16] <Zakim> +??P17
  178. # [18:16] <glenn> none
  179. # [18:16] <Zakim> + +1.613.491.aabb
  180. # [18:16] <Clarke> zakim, ??P17 is me
  181. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
  182. # [18:16] <glenn> Topic: Decisions This Week
  183. # [18:16] <glenn> none
  184. # [18:17] <paulc> Could the Huawei rep please contact paulc at pcotton@microsoft.com to discuss the WG phone mechanics.
  185. # [18:17] <glenn> Topic: Task Force Reports
  186. # [18:17] <rubys> Here what I would report if I were to attend the meeting
  187. # [18:17] <rubys> * We meet as planned on June 5th 2012 (meeting notes ->
  188. # [18:17] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jun/0004.html)
  189. # [18:17] <rubys> * Spring Cleaning Part #1 Completed (updated 353 tests to use /resources as
  190. # [18:17] <rubys> the vroot for testharness.js)
  191. # [18:17] <rubys> * Expecting a new test submission/contribution from Mathias Bynens
  192. # [18:17] <rubys> * David Zbarsky updated the Opera Microdata tests with feedback from Simon
  193. # [18:17] <rubys> Peters
  194. # [18:17] <glenn> rubys: Testing TF
  195. # [18:17] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  196. # [18:17] <glenn> rubys: discussion?
  197. # [18:18] <glenn> rubys: A11Y TF
  198. # [18:18] <glenn> mike: janina usually does, but can't make today's call
  199. # [18:18] <glenn> ... updated CP for ISSUE-31c, meta generator exception
  200. # [18:18] <glenn> ... will be provided by Friday
  201. # [18:19] <glenn> ... also further discussion on ISSUE-194
  202. # [18:19] <glenn> ... proposal around transcript element
  203. # [18:19] <glenn> ... progress made on agreement, but further discussion needed
  204. # [18:19] <MikeSmith> issue-199?
  205. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-199
  206. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- open
  207. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
  208. # [18:19] <glenn> ... ISSUE-199 is anothere issue
  209. # [18:20] <glenn> s/anothere/another/
  210. # [18:20] <glenn> mike: janina needs to discuss with ted
  211. # [18:20] <glenn> s/mike/MikeSmith/g
  212. # [18:20] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-html-a11y-minutes.html
  213. # [18:20] <glenn> rubys: what is next step on ISSUE-194?
  214. # [18:21] <glenn> MikeSmith: expecting to have TF consensus call, but didn't happen
  215. # [18:21] <glenn> ... due to lack of agreement on CP
  216. # [18:21] <glenn> ... JF, Sylvia, Eric, and Ted needed further discussion
  217. # [18:21] <glenn> rubys: questions?
  218. # [18:22] <glenn> Topic: Other Business
  219. # [18:22] <glenn> ISSUE-201?
  220. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-201
  221. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
  222. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
  223. # [18:22] <glenn> rubys: note from frank about aligning proposals
  224. # [18:22] <Zakim> +Aaron
  225. # [18:22] <glenn> s/frank/frnkolivier/
  226. # [18:22] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0020.html
  227. # [18:22] <glenn> s/frnkolivier/frankolivier/
  228. # [18:23] <glenn> frankolivier: awaiting feedback from Ted
  229. # [18:23] <glenn> paulc: chairs will follow up, but probably not until next Monday after mjs returns
  230. # [18:23] <glenn> ... will try to push along
  231. # [18:23] <glenn> ISSUE-204?
  232. # [18:23] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-204
  233. # [18:23] <trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
  234. # [18:23] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
  235. # [18:24] <glenn> rubys: got indication TF will object to any/all ?
  236. # [18:24] <rubys> s/all ?/all SHALLS/
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  238. # [18:24] <glenn> rubys: ready for survey, but not sure
  239. # [18:25] <glenn> ... would like indication that a consensus may be obtained first
  240. # [18:25] <glenn> ... haven't heard back from janina yet
  241. # [18:25] <glenn> ... wants to hear something back soon
  242. # [18:25] <glenn> [who's talking?]
  243. # [18:25] <rubys> here's what I posted: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0021.html
  244. # [18:26] <glenn> cynthia: asks mike to follow up
  245. # [18:26] <glenn> rubys: media teleconference times
  246. # [18:26] <glenn> paulc: tuesday 1500Z looks like best time
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  248. # [18:27] <glenn> ... will work with editors to create agenda for next week's first meeting
  249. # [18:27] <glenn> ... mikesmith has worked on admin tasks, public-html-media@w3.org is new ML
  250. # [18:27] <glenn> ... people will need to subscribe
  251. # [18:27] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aaa]
  252. # [18:27] <glenn> ... also a tracker assigned to telecon slot
  253. # [18:27] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aaa] is me
  254. # [18:27] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  255. # [18:28] <glenn> ... changed bugzilla linkage for components prior used, now linked to new public-html-media ML
  256. # [18:28] <glenn> ... will send out email announcing agenda tomorrow
  257. # [18:29] <glenn> rubys: AOB?
  258. # [18:29] <glenn> ... ISSUE-189?
  259. # [18:29] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0021.html
  260. # [18:29] <glenn> ISSUE-189?
  261. # [18:29] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-189
  262. # [18:29] <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
  263. # [18:29] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
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  265. # [18:29] <Julian> q+
  266. # [18:29] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  267. # [18:29] <glenn> ... needs follow up from ted, otherwise will treat as withdrawn
  268. # [18:29] <rubys> ack next
  269. # [18:29] * Zakim sees Julian at the head of the speaker queue
  270. # [18:29] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  271. # [18:30] <glenn> julian: this action went to chair of A11Y WG, so maybe feedback will arrive
  272. # [18:30] <glenn> rubys: ted's CP says editor can do what he wants, but rubys said needs more specificity
  273. # [18:30] <glenn> julian: will look at CP
  274. # [18:30] <dsinger> zakim, who is makign noise?
  275. # [18:30] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, dsinger.
  276. # [18:31] <dsinger> zakim, who is making noise?
  277. # [18:31] <Zakim> dsinger, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sam (29%), ??P21 (66%)
  278. # [18:31] <glenn> rubys: any other other business?
  279. # [18:31] <glenn> Topic: Scribe for Next Meeting
  280. # [18:32] <glenn> rubys: will assign at meeting time
  281. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  282. # [18:32] <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
  283. # [18:32] <glenn> adjourned
  284. # [18:32] * Parts: jaymunro (jay@131.107.0.119)
  285. # [18:32] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  286. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Clarke
  287. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Mike
  288. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Julian_Reschke
  289. # [18:32] <Zakim> - +25686aaaa
  290. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Aaron
  291. # [18:32] <Zakim> -KevinStreeter
  292. # [18:32] <Zakim> - +1.613.491.aabb
  293. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Sam
  294. # [18:32] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
  295. # [18:32] <Zakim> -??P21
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  297. # [18:32] <Zakim> -adrianba
  298. # [18:32] <Zakim> -ddorwin
  299. # [18:32] <Zakim> -eliot
  300. # [18:32] <glenn> rrsagent, draft minutes
  301. # [18:32] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-html-wg-minutes.html glenn
  302. # [18:32] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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  307. # [18:33] <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
  308. # [18:33] * trackbot is ending a teleconference
  309. # [18:33] <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
  310. # [18:33] <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Radhika_Roy, +25686aaaa, dsinger, paulc, ddorwin, Sam, jaymunro, eliot, KevinStreeter, Mike, Julian_Reschke, +1.613.491.aabb, Clarke,
  311. # [18:33] <Zakim> ... [Microsoft], Aaron, adrianba
  312. # [18:33] <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
  313. # [18:33] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot
  314. # [18:33] <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
  315. # [18:33] <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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  317. # [18:33] <Zakim> -??P3
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  325. # [18:56] <Zakim> -jaymunro
  326. # [18:56] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  327. # [18:56] <Zakim> Attendees were Radhika_Roy, +25686aaaa, dsinger, paulc, ddorwin, Sam, jaymunro, eliot, KevinStreeter, Mike, Julian_Reschke, +1.613.491.aabb, Clarke, [Microsoft], Aaron, adrianba
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