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  158. # [17:32] <MikeSmith> issue-201?
  159. # [17:32] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-201
  160. # [17:32] <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
  161. # [17:32] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
  162. # [17:36] <yang> conference call started?
  163. # [17:38] <MikeSmith> yang: 30 minutes from now
  164. # [17:38] <yang> got it, just make sure not miss the call
  165. # [17:40] <MikeSmith> issue-205?
  166. # [17:40] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-205
  167. # [17:40] <trackbot> ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. -- open
  168. # [17:40] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
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  176. # [17:58] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  177. # [17:58] <Zakim> +Clarke
  178. # [17:58] <Zakim> -Clarke
  179. # [17:58] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  180. # [17:58] <Zakim> Attendees were Clarke
  181. # [17:59] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  182. # [17:59] <Zakim> +??P1
  183. # [17:59] <yang> Zakim, ??P1 is me
  184. # [17:59] <Zakim> +yang; got it
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  186. # [18:05] <Zakim> +??P5
  187. # [18:06] <J_Voracek>
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  190. # [18:06] <glenn> zakim, ??p5 is me
  191. # [18:06] <Zakim> +glenn; got it
  192. # [18:06] <glenn> zakim, who's noisy?
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  194. # [18:06] <Zakim> glenn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: yang (99%)
  195. # [18:06] <glenn> zakim, mute yang
  196. # [18:06] <Zakim> yang should now be muted
  197. # [18:07] <yang> no, please not mute me
  198. # [18:07] <glenn> yang, i just muted you due to noise; if you wish to unmute, then use 60# or say 'zakim, unmute me'
  199. # [18:07] <yang> zakim,unmute me
  200. # [18:07] <Zakim> yang should no longer be muted
  201. # [18:07] <glenn> yang, your line is too noisy to leave unmuted
  202. # [18:07] <yang> still noiy?
  203. # [18:07] <yang> still noisy?
  204. # [18:08] <glenn> it's ok now, i guess you muted locally
  205. # [18:08] <yang> no, I closed my fan ;)
  206. # [18:08] <glenn> but i'm hearing typing
  207. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Sam
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  209. # [18:09] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  210. # [18:09] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  212. # [18:09] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-html-wg-irc
  213. # [18:09] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  214. # [18:09] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  215. # [18:09] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  216. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  217. # [18:09] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  218. # [18:09] <trackbot> Date: 28 June 2012
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  221. # [18:09] <glenn> yang, i'm still hearing noise from you, so its best to stay muted, either locally on your end or via zakim, until you wish to speak
  222. # [18:10] <Zakim> -yang
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  224. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  225. # [18:10] <glenn> it was before you joined sam
  226. # [18:10] <Zakim> +SethHodgson
  227. # [18:10] <krisk> zakim, [Microsoft] has krisk
  228. # [18:10] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  229. # [18:10] <Zakim> +hober
  230. # [18:10] <glenn> i was hearing local noise at yang's end (fan + typing, etc)
  231. # [18:11] <jaymunro> Zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  232. # [18:11] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  233. # [18:11] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  234. # [18:11] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  235. # [18:11] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  236. # [18:11] <Zakim> +??P16
  237. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  238. # [18:11] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  239. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Mike
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  241. # [18:11] <yang> zakim, ??P16 is me
  242. # [18:11] <Zakim> +yang; got it
  243. # [18:11] <adrianba> zakim, who is here?
  244. # [18:11] <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn (muted), Sam, jaymunro, SethHodgson, hober, adrianba, yang, Mike (muted)
  245. # [18:11] <Zakim> jaymunro has krisk
  246. # [18:11] <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, jaymunro, SethHodgson, krisk, RRSAgent, mjs, rubys, J_Voracek, adrianba, icaaq, yang, plh, vimeo_joe, glenn, davidb, miketaylr, MikeSmith, myakura, ArtB,
  247. # [18:11] <Zakim> ... nonge, drublic, Lachy, CIA-1, krijnh, kennyluck, logbot, johndrinkwater, decadance, timeless, shepazu, arronei, karl, ybit, hiro, Wilto, Zakim, jgraham, Dashiva, ed, heycam,
  248. # [18:11] <Zakim> ... gavin, gsnedders, lgombos, hober, trackbot, Philip, hsivonen, jmb, Hixie, inimino, MikeSmithW3C, odinho, paul___irish, Jedi
  249. # [18:12] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  250. # [18:12] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  251. # [18:12] <Zakim> +mjs
  252. # [18:12] <Zakim> +Plh
  253. # [18:12] <Zakim> +??P18
  254. # [18:12] <janina> zakim, ??P18 is Janina
  255. # [18:12] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  256. # [18:12] <Zakim> +Clarke
  257. # [18:12] <Zakim> +John_Foliot
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  259. # [18:12] <krisk> Agenda ->
  260. # [18:12] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0042.html
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  264. # [18:13] <krisk> scribe: krisk
  265. # [18:13] <krisk> #1 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, June 28
  266. # [18:13] <krisk> First item is ACTION-217: Create a joint Path location add hit testing binding...
  267. # [18:13] <R_Berkoff> Zakim, list attendees
  268. # [18:13] <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been yang, glenn, Sam, SethHodgson, krisk, hober, jaymunro, adrianba, Mike, mjs, Plh, Janina, Clarke, John_Foliot
  269. # [18:13] <adrianba> ACTION-217?
  270. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-217
  271. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-217 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to create a joint Path location add hit testing binding CP for ISSUE-201 that binds canvas to fallback content (Rich, Ted, Frank) -- due 2012-06-21 -- OPEN
  272. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/217
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  274. # [18:14] <glenn> lot's of echo on line
  275. # [18:14] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  276. # [18:14] <Zakim> +[GVoice]
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  278. # [18:14] <krisk> Glen: frank and myself met last week and are in the process of formalizing the discussion
  279. # [18:14] <adrianba> s/Glen/hober/
  280. # [18:14] <rubys> s/Glen:/Ted:/
  281. # [18:14] <glenn> s/Glen/ted/
  282. # [18:14] <krisk> sam: do we have any update on schedule?
  283. # [18:14] <ddorwin> zakim, [GVoice] is me
  284. # [18:15] <Zakim> +ddorwin; got it
  285. # [18:15] <krisk> sam: any more comments/questions for hober?
  286. # [18:15] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  287. # [18:15] <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +R_Berkoff
  288. # [18:15] <Zakim> I wonder where R_Berkoff is
  289. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  290. # [18:15] <krisk> Next ACTION-219: Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a
  291. # [18:15] <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a has me
  292. # [18:15] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
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  294. # [18:15] <adrianba> ACTION-219?
  295. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-219
  296. # [18:15] <trackbot> ACTION-219 -- Edward O'Connor to review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a -- due 2012-06-22 -- OPEN
  297. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/219
  298. # [18:15] <krisk> Hober: I reviewed this last friday and send this to Michael
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  300. # [18:16] <krisk> janina: Michael this looks good - except for some language (not optimal)
  301. # [18:18] <krisk> msj: can Michael agree that the editor can make an update to the language?
  302. # [18:18] <rubys> s/msj/mjs/
  303. # [18:18] <krisk> msj: Then as long as Michael makes his update we should have consensus
  304. # [18:19] <rubys> s/msj/mjs/
  305. # [18:19] <R_Berkoff> Zakim, +R_Berkoff
  306. # [18:19] <Zakim> I wonder where R_Berkoff is
  307. # [18:19] <krisk> janina: Michael should be able to make his update in a day or so
  308. # [18:19] <krisk> Next Update New Issues This Week:
  309. # [18:19] <R_Berkoff> Zakim, GVoice is me
  310. # [18:19] <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named 'GVoice'
  311. # [18:19] <krisk> ISSUE-206: Should HTML5 have a meta generator exception to the alt requirement?
  312. # [18:19] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-206.
  313. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-206 Should HTML5 have a meta generator exception to the alt requirement? notes added
  314. # [18:19] <krisk> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/206 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0137.html
  315. # [18:19] <R_Berkoff> Zakim, [GVoice] is me
  316. # [18:19] <Zakim> sorry, R_Berkoff, I do not recognize a party named '[GVoice]'
  317. # [18:19] <krisk> sam: any discussions?
  318. # [18:19] <krisk> sam: none
  319. # [18:20] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  320. # [18:20] <krisk> Next Items Closed Last Week
  321. # [18:20] <krisk> ISSUE-184: data-element, survey closed Jun 21
  322. # [18:20] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-184.
  323. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-184 Add a data element notes added
  324. # [18:20] <krisk> ISSUE-185: drop-pubdate and add moddate, surveys closed Jun 21
  325. # [18:20] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-185.
  326. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-185 Drop the pubdate attribute notes added
  327. # [18:20] <Zakim> + +1.818.370.aaaa
  328. # [18:20] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  329. # [18:21] <krisk> Next Up is Items Closing This Week
  330. # [18:21] <krisk> ISSUE-195: form-http-req, Revise Change Proposals closes Jun 27
  331. # [18:21] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-195.
  332. # [18:21] <trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms notes added
  333. # [18:21] <krisk> chairs are reviewing
  334. # [18:21] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0263.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0136.html
  335. # [18:21] <krisk> Next Items Closing Next Week
  336. # [18:21] <Zakim> +whitech
  337. # [18:22] <krisk> ISSUE-189: uri-web-prefix, Revise Change Proposals extension closes Jul 6
  338. # [18:22] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-189.
  339. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-189 Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF notes added
  340. # [18:22] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0316.html
  341. # [18:22] <krisk> ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Revise Change Proposals closes Jul 6
  342. # [18:22] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-200.
  343. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
  344. # [18:22] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0099.html
  345. # [18:22] <krisk> sam: note they both close on July 6th
  346. # [18:22] <krisk> Next New Calls this week
  347. # [18:22] <krisk> ISSUE-206: meta-generator
  348. # [18:22] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-206.
  349. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-206 Should HTML5 have a meta generator exception to the alt requirement? notes added
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  351. # [18:23] <krisk> alternale/counter proposals are due by July 27th
  352. # [18:23] <krisk> Next New Surveys this week
  353. # [18:23] <krisk> none
  354. # [18:23] <krisk> Decisions this week
  355. # [18:23] <krisk> none
  356. # [18:23] <krisk> Other Business
  357. # [18:23] <krisk> #1 HTML WG rechartering
  358. # [18:23] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0104.html
  359. # [18:23] <plh> q+
  360. # [18:23] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  361. # [18:24] <krisk> Sam: a small amount of discussion
  362. # [18:24] <rubys> ack plh
  363. # [18:24] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  364. # [18:24] <krisk> plh: mike is working on this (dependancy)
  365. # [18:24] <krisk> plh: The RDFa will be moved to a different working group and this was moved from the HTML WG charter
  366. # [18:25] <MikeSmith> yeah, I have since removed HTML + RDFa as a deliverable from the draft charter
  367. # [18:25] <krisk> plh: People need to comment on this change to the charter
  368. # [18:25] <krisk> ISSUE-203 media-descriptions
  369. # [18:25] <krisk> hober asked for an extension and chairs agreed
  370. # [18:26] <krisk> janina: what was the issue? use case?
  371. # [18:27] <krisk> hober: some of the information is redundant
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  373. # [18:28] <krisk> janina: the mechanism is tied to ISSUE-30 and we are out of sequence
  374. # [18:28] <Zakim> +Martin
  375. # [18:29] <krisk> janina: I am not opposed to taking this under advisement
  376. # [18:30] <glenn> zakim, who's on the phone?
  377. # [18:30] <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn (muted), Sam, jaymunro, SethHodgson, hober, adrianba, yang, Mike, mjs, Janina, Plh, Clarke, John_Foliot, [Microsoft], ddorwin, [Microsoft.a],
  378. # [18:30] <Zakim> ... +1.818.370.aaaa, Cynthia_Shelly, whitech, Martin
  379. # [18:30] <Zakim> jaymunro has krisk
  380. # [18:30] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has eliot
  381. # [18:30] <glenn> zakim, who's noisy?
  382. # [18:30] <hober> hober: at this time, i don't want to commit to only countering the mechanism and not the use case
  383. # [18:30] <Zakim> glenn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Janina (10%), Plh (32%)
  384. # [18:31] <hober> hober: also, ordering of this issue with other issues is not something i control, so i'm not sure what janina would like me to say with regard to that
  385. # [18:31] <glenn> zakim, mute plh
  386. # [18:31] <Zakim> Plh should now be muted
  387. # [18:31] <krisk> janina: well we want to get html5 done, the use case has been discussed for sometime
  388. # [18:32] <krisk> janina: happy to discuss, though no need to do this right now..
  389. # [18:32] <krisk> janina: issue-30 should occur first
  390. # [18:32] <krisk> hober: I'm not concerned about the ordering...
  391. # [18:33] <krisk> janina: I'm objecting you working on this before others
  392. # [18:33] <krisk> hober: I'm not working on this before the others
  393. # [18:33] <krisk> sam: The net is that an extension has been granted by the chairs
  394. # [18:33] <JF> +Q to ask the Chairs what will happen after July 10th, given this Issue WAS closed June 20th
  395. # [18:33] * Zakim sees JF on the speaker queue
  396. # [18:33] <krisk> ..for issue-203
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  398. # [18:34] <krisk> janina: I'm not sure we have enough to re-open this issue
  399. # [18:34] <krisk> janina: debating 203 before issue-30 is not going to work
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  401. # [18:35] <rubys> ack next
  402. # [18:35] * Zakim sees JF at the head of the speaker queue
  403. # [18:35] <Zakim> JF, you wanted to ask the Chairs what will happen after July 10th, given this Issue WAS closed June 20th
  404. # [18:35] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  405. # [18:35] <krisk> JF: I'm not sure if this issue is re-opened?
  406. # [18:35] <krisk> JF: what is the plan - will it close at somepoint
  407. # [18:36] <krisk> JF: issue was closed on june 20th
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  409. # [18:37] <krisk> mjs: The call for consensus when out but was not actually closed on the 20th
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  411. # [18:37] <krisk> sam: note that this is dependent on issue-30
  412. # [18:38] <krisk> JF: So now the deadline is July 10th, what happens on the 11th?
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  415. # [18:38] <plh> q+
  416. # [18:38] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  417. # [18:38] <rubys> ack next
  418. # [18:38] * Zakim sees plh at the head of the speaker queue
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  422. # [18:38] <krisk> plh: does it make sense to close this before issue-30?
  423. # [18:39] <krisk> plh: will we close this then before issue-30
  424. # [18:39] <krisk> JF: I have no objection to defering issue-203 until issue-30 is resolved
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  426. # [18:40] <krisk> sam: I'll send a note to the list about this discussion
  427. # [18:40] <krisk> sam: any objections?
  428. # [18:40] <krisk> no objections to this...
  429. # [18:40] <krisk> sam: can we move on to Proposed adaptive image element?
  430. # [18:40] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0130.html
  431. # [18:40] <krisk> janina: works for me...
  432. # [18:41] <krisk> sam: not clear if this is needed for html5 or should be in html.next
  433. # [18:41] <adrianba> q+
  434. # [18:41] * Zakim sees adrianba on the speaker queue
  435. # [18:41] <rubys> ack next
  436. # [18:41] * Zakim sees adrianba at the head of the speaker queue
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  439. # [18:41] <krisk> adrianba: I think the list would be 'OK' to have this be in HTML.NEXT
  440. # [18:42] <krisk> adrianba: though people don't want to wait a long time
  441. # [18:42] <plh> q+
  442. # [18:42] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  443. # [18:42] <rubys> ack next
  444. # [18:42] * Zakim sees plh at the head of the speaker queue
  445. # [18:42] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  446. # [18:42] <krisk> adrianab: such that people would start to impl this sooner
  447. # [18:42] <krisk> plh: should we make this a HTML.NEXT proposal and work on it their?
  448. # [18:42] <rubys> s/adrianab/adrianba/
  449. # [18:43] <yang> q+
  450. # [18:43] * Zakim sees yang on the speaker queue
  451. # [18:43] <krisk> agreement from the WG on this change
  452. # [18:43] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jun/0135.html
  453. # [18:43] <krisk> Technical Editor for HTML Working Group has been sent to the list
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  455. # [18:44] <yang> when the html.next will be discussed? after html5 REC?
  456. # [18:44] <krisk> plh: w3c will hire an individual for 1 year and will complement the editor work
  457. # [18:44] <krisk> plh: participants can apply for this position
  458. # [18:44] <glenn> is there a timeline for resolving the editor team?
  459. # [18:45] <glenn> i.e., if it takes an unspecified time to hire a lead editor...
  460. # [18:45] <krisk> sam: we are still evaluating - hopefully it be in a matter of days
  461. # [18:45] <glenn> tnx
  462. # [18:46] <krisk> sam: editors may come on in stages (not optimal) but we won't block
  463. # [18:46] <plh> ack yang
  464. # [18:46] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  465. # [18:47] <krisk> yang: will html.next be discussed or will it start once html5 gets to REC?
  466. # [18:47] <krisk> sam: it will be in //
  467. # [18:47] <tantek> yang - you can discuss HTML6 any time you want - create a page on the W3C wiki and feel free to brainstorm there
  468. # [18:47] <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/html5-stabilization-plan.html#Q5
  469. # [18:48] <krisk> yang: if we find something in html.next very useful can we move this to html5?
  470. # [18:48] <krisk> sam: it's possible though major changes will face resistance
  471. # [18:48] <krisk> sam: any, any other business?
  472. # [18:49] <glenn> i can scribe
  473. # [18:49] <krisk> no one is on the queue
  474. # [18:49] <tantek> krisk - I'd say better chance of going directly to browser implementers and asking them to consider implementing
  475. # [18:49] <tantek> (or if that was yang)
  476. # [18:49] <Zakim> -mjs
  477. # [18:49] <Zakim> -Martin
  478. # [18:49] <Zakim> -Mike
  479. # [18:49] <Zakim> -John_Foliot
  480. # [18:49] <Zakim> - +1.818.370.aaaa
  481. # [18:49] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  482. # [18:49] <Zakim> -Plh
  483. # [18:49] <Zakim> -SethHodgson
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  485. # [18:49] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  486. # [18:49] <Zakim> -Sam
  487. # [18:49] <Zakim> -hober
  488. # [18:49] <Zakim> -Janina
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  490. # [18:49] <Zakim> -whitech
  491. # [18:49] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
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  493. # [18:49] <Zakim> -adrianba
  494. # [18:49] <Zakim> -Clarke
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  496. # [18:49] <Zakim> -yang
  497. # [18:49] <Zakim> -glenn
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  501. # [18:50] <krisk> meeting adjourned
  502. # [18:50] <krisk> RRSAgent, make logs public
  503. # [18:50] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, krisk
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  505. # [18:50] <krisk> rrsagent, generate minutes
  506. # [18:50] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/28-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
  507. # [18:50] <Zakim> -jaymunro
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  525. # [19:43] <Zakim> Attendees were yang, glenn, Sam, SethHodgson, krisk, hober, jaymunro, adrianba, Mike, mjs, Plh, Janina, Clarke, John_Foliot, [Microsoft], ddorwin, Cynthia_Shelly, eliot,
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