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  26. # [08:57] <Sirisian> Hixie, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/23/html_5_fork/ <-- is this just sensationalized? I thought I followed w3c pretty closely and never knew there was disagreements or anything. In fact "W3C was moving too slowly" confuses me to no end. I got pointer lock standardized and implemented in a year by just talking to people. So confused.
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  28. # [09:18] <Hixie> Sirisian: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-whatwg-archive/2012Jul/0119.html is what they're talking about, i think
  29. # [09:19] <Hixie> Sirisian: the htmlwg definitely moves slowly though, i mean, issues take months to resolve per the process (that is, the wg process requires them to take months, it's designed that way)
  30. # [09:19] <Hixie> (htmlwg process, that is)
  31. # [09:19] <Hixie> (some other wgs are fine)
  32. # [09:20] <Hixie> (e.g. the webapps specs i edit don't seem to have any speed problems)
  33. # [09:24] <Sirisian> Oh I see. I think this is the first time I've understood the difference between whatwg and w3c. I always assumed they were the same people. So is the idea to move everyone in w3c over to the whatwg system to create a unified system sometime?
  34. # [09:25] <Sirisian> I guess I don't get what the point of having two groups is if it causes such a headache
  35. # [09:25] <Hixie> there was a lot of overlap in people
  36. # [09:25] <Hixie> less so, these days
  37. # [09:26] <Hixie> unlikely to be unified any time soon since the two groups have different goals now
  38. # [09:33] <Sirisian> What is the w3c process? (From an outside perspective it seems like both whatwg and w3c both maintain living documents that are easy to add things to and make changes and bug fixes).
  39. # [09:34] <Hixie> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/ http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy-v2.html
  40. # [09:37] <mjs> the w3c html wg's set of specs are not meant to be easily changeable, currently
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  42. # [09:39] <Sirisian> okay I'll read these. It's late at night. bbl
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