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  111. # [15:12] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 8 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/96740f80a71c...eecde263a708
  112. # [15:12] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] TODO changes - Robin Berjon
  113. # [15:12] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] Merge branch 'master' into heartbeat-201210 - Robin Berjon
  114. # [15:13] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] change boilerplate settings - Robin Berjon
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  121. # [16:31] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 7 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/eecde263a708...26bc1ea65296
  122. # [16:31] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] better generation; first batch of link checking fixes - Robin Berjon
  123. # [16:31] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] list linking errors that still exist; fix copying of images - Robin Berjon
  124. # [16:31] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] add entities-dtd.url boilerplate that can be inserted. NOTE: this may be better autogenerated - Robin Berjon
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  127. # [16:45] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/26bc1ea65296...a5b4393c9e63
  128. # [16:45] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] need different copy operation for single file - Robin Berjon
  129. # [16:45] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] new generation; all fixes included - Robin Berjon
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  133. # [17:11] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/a5b4393c9e63...fade20c05973
  134. # [17:11] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] new errors; fix to the boilerplate code; exclusions to speed up checker - Robin Berjon
  135. # [17:11] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] fix linking to index - Robin Berjon
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  146. # [17:43] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/ee2aa422b1957ba740d7856ffeec879640023658
  147. # [17:43] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] proper exclusions; replace entities BP correctly; handle index.html cleanly - Robin Berjon
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  154. # [18:09] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  155. # [18:09] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  156. # [18:09] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  157. # [18:09] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  158. # [18:09] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  159. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
  160. # [18:09] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  161. # [18:09] <trackbot> Date: 04 October 2012
  162. # [18:09] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  163. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Sam
  164. # [18:09] * rubys is seeking volunteers to scribe
  165. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  168. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  169. # [18:10] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  170. # [18:10] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  171. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Plh
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  173. # [18:10] <Eliot_> Zakim, microsoft.a has me
  174. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Eliot_; got it
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  176. # [18:11] <Zakim> + +1.626.379.aaaa
  177. # [18:11] <Zakim> +cabanier
  178. # [18:11] <Zakim> + +1.425.869.aabb
  179. # [18:11] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  180. # [18:11] <hober> Zakim, Apple is me
  181. # [18:11] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  182. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  183. # [18:11] <Zakim> +??P24
  184. # [18:11] <janina> zakim, ??P24 is Janina
  185. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  186. # [18:11] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  187. # [18:11] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
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  189. # [18:11] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/ee2aa422b195...191356c53970
  190. # [18:11] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] support author spec generation - Robin Berjon
  191. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  192. # [18:11] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft.aa has me
  193. # [18:11] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] link to fonts - Robin Berjon
  194. # [18:11] <Zakim> sorry, jaymunro, I do not recognize a party named 'microsoft.aa'
  195. # [18:11] * Parts: gitbot (gitbot@50.57.128.197)
  196. # [18:11] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
  197. # [18:11] <Zakim> sorry, jaymunro, I do not recognize a party named 'microsoft'
  198. # [18:12] <jaymunro> zakim, Microsoft has me
  199. # [18:12] <Zakim> sorry, jaymunro, I do not recognize a party named 'Microsoft'
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  202. # [18:12] * darobin Zakim, who is here?
  203. # [18:12] * Zakim sees on the phone: Sam, krisk, [Microsoft.a], Plh, +1.626.379.aaaa, cabanier, +1.425.869.aabb, hober, Radhika_Roy, Janina, Cynthia_Shelly
  204. # [18:12] * Zakim [Microsoft.a] has Eliot_
  205. # [18:12] * Zakim sees on irc: Barbara, janina, cabanier, MFoladare, Eliot_, krisk, rubys, jaymunro, shepazu, tinkster, gavin, davidb, karl, plh, ArtB, jet, icaaq, nonge__, darobin, Philip, mjs,
  206. # [18:12] * Zakim ... MikeSmith, cali, hober, lgombos, inimino, jgraham, gsnedders, odinho, Jedi, jmb, Hixie, timeless, Dashiva, heycam|away, mamund, decadance, [tm], ybit, johndrinkwater,
  207. # [18:12] <jaymunro> Zakim, Microsoft.a has me
  208. # [18:12] * Zakim ... paul___irish, krijnh, ed, logbot, Velmont, Zakim, trackbot, RRSAgent
  209. # [18:12] * rubys is seeking volunteers to scribe
  210. # [18:12] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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  213. # [18:13] <darobin> Zakim, [Microsoft.a] holds jaymunro
  214. # [18:13] <Zakim> jaymunro was already listed in [Microsoft.a], darobin
  215. # [18:13] * darobin ok, sorry :)
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  217. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Barbara
  218. # [18:13] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012OctDec/0000.html
  219. # [18:13] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  220. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Judy
  221. # [18:13] * MichaelC zakim, code?
  222. # [18:13] * Zakim saw 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org) given for the conference code, MichaelC
  223. # [18:13] <krisk> I can scribe
  224. # [18:14] <Zakim> +??P35
  225. # [18:14] * MichaelC zakim, ??P35 is Michael_Cooper
  226. # [18:14] * Zakim +Michael_Cooper; got it
  227. # [18:14] <krisk> #1. ACTION items due by Thursday, October 4
  228. # [18:14] <krisk> one action item
  229. # [18:14] <krisk> ACTION-222: Create a preference poll for the appcache mailing list
  230. # [18:14] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-222.
  231. # [18:14] <trackbot> ACTION-222 Create a preference poll for the appcache mailing list notes added
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  233. # [18:15] <krisk> Need to sync back with Maciej - he has been busy with the 2014 plan
  234. # [18:15] <krisk> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/222
  235. # [18:15] <krisk> next up Task Force Reports
  236. # [18:15] <krisk> Testing Testing Task Force
  237. # [18:15] <krisk> We met as planned last week
  238. # [18:15] <krisk> Notes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Oct/0000.html
  239. # [18:16] <krisk> Need to have a place for html.next tests, need has arisen see bug #15042
  240. # [18:17] <hober> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15042
  241. # [18:17] <krisk> We approved 256 Audio/Video tests that were submitted by Intel
  242. # [18:17] <krisk> We now have 11,898 approved tests
  243. # [18:18] <krisk> We should discuss at TPAC what type of implementation report is needed to enter CR
  244. # [18:18] <krisk> any questions?
  245. # [18:19] <krisk> Next, Accessibility Task Force
  246. # [18:19] <krisk> <janina>A small number of questions about 2014 and how this relates to the Accessibility Task Force
  247. # [18:20] <krisk> Still not settled on section 7.1 hidden in the html spec
  248. # [18:20] <krisk> How this related to the ARIA spec and intersects with HTML
  249. # [18:21] <paulc> q+
  250. # [18:21] * Zakim sees paulc on the speaker queue
  251. # [18:21] <krisk> Just had a good meeting, which the task force can close on this in a week
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  253. # [18:21] <rubys> ack paul
  254. # [18:21] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  255. # [18:21] <krisk> <paulc> I want to check with people
  256. # [18:22] <Zakim> + +1.613.287.aacc
  257. # [18:22] <MartinSoukup> zakim, aacc is me
  258. # [18:22] <Zakim> +MartinSoukup; got it
  259. # [18:22] <krisk> I want ot double check that the 204 issue will not block the heartbeat docs
  260. # [18:22] <krisk> <paulc> will this block the heartbeat docs or not?
  261. # [18:23] <krisk> <janina>Should be 'ok' presuming that what is their what we expect
  262. # [18:24] <krisk> <janina>a version after when the objetion was raised would be OK
  263. # [18:24] <krisk> <paulc> I'll send and email to make sure we are all in agreement and we don't get surprised with an objection
  264. # [18:24] <krisk> ...when we ask for consensus for the docs
  265. # [18:25] <krisk> Next Media Task Force Update
  266. # [18:25] <krisk> <paulc>To main points
  267. # [18:25] <krisk> A) Bug counts are flat
  268. # [18:26] <krisk> B) Both groups want to meet at the TPAC F2F meeting
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  270. # [18:26] <krisk> Does anyone else want to add to this update?
  271. # [18:26] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Sep/0238.html
  272. # [18:26] <krisk> Next 3. Other Business
  273. # [18:26] <krisk> rates go up on Oct 16th - 12 days!
  274. # [18:27] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Sep/0238.html
  275. # [18:27] <krisk> <paulc> Let's create a wiki for F2F discussion topics
  276. # [18:27] <krisk> <paulc> I know of one other cross group meeting
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  278. # [18:28] <krisk> No action needed, look for this on the list
  279. # [18:28] <krisk> Next up is Plan 2014
  280. # [18:28] <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/html5-2014-plan.html
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  282. # [18:28] <krisk> Plan 2014 - Getting HTML to Recommendation in 2014 - Revised
  283. # [18:28] <krisk> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/html5-2014-plan.html
  284. # [18:28] <rubys> The task force may also create specifications that extend deliverables of the HTML Working Group, in the area of accessibility.
  285. # [18:28] <rubys> The Accessibility Task Force will have decision authority over the contents of such extension specifications.
  286. # [18:28] <rubys> Any such specifications will be considered jointly produced by the HTML Working Group and PFWG, for purposes of W3C Publication. This means that, as with any w3c joint task force deliverable, both Working Groups must approve transitions such as First Public Working Draft or Last Call.
  287. # [18:28] <rubys> It also means that documents will create Patent Policy obligations in both groups. Members of either Working Group who have technical comments or objections on Task Force publications are expected to raise them in the context of the Task Force.
  288. # [18:29] <krisk> Any questions or comments on this propsed addition?
  289. # [18:30] <krisk> <rubys> No objections or comments from the group
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  291. # [18:31] <krisk> no other comments on the 2014 Plan
  292. # [18:31] <krisk> Next - scribe for next meeting?
  293. # [18:31] <krisk> Nick will scribe the next meeting, thx!
  294. # [18:31] <rubys> s/Nick/Rick/
  295. # [18:31] <hober> s/Rick/Rik/
  296. # [18:32] <Zakim> -cabanier
  297. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Sam
  298. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
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  300. # [18:32] <Zakim> -MartinSoukup
  301. # [18:32] <Zakim> -hober
  302. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  303. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  304. # [18:32] <Zakim> - +1.425.869.aabb
  305. # [18:32] * Parts: janina (janina@69.140.165.18)
  306. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Janina
  307. # [18:32] <krisk> Adjournment
  308. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Judy
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  312. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Barbara
  313. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Plh
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  315. # [18:32] <krisk> RRSAgent, make logs public
  316. # [18:32] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, krisk
  317. # [18:32] <krisk> rrsagent, generate minutes
  318. # [18:32] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/04-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
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  320. # [18:34] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
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  322. # [18:35] * Parts: Judy (jbrewer@128.30.52.169)
  323. # [18:37] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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  326. # [18:42] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/a31fe518bb28c04db65bcc8253e16342098bd106
  327. # [18:42] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] start work on pubrules checker - Robin Berjon
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  329. # [18:44] <Zakim> -krisk
  330. # [18:44] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  331. # [18:44] <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Plh, Eliot_, +1.626.379.aaaa, cabanier, +1.425.869.aabb, hober, Radhika_Roy, Janina, krisk, Cynthia_Shelly, jaymunro, Barbara, [Microsoft], Judy,
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