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  13. # [01:20] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 2 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/3ab90108f498...bc893e1b049f
  14. # [01:20] <gitbot> [html/feature/whatwg] [e] (0) Fix some typos or copypasta. - ianh
  15. # [01:20] <gitbot> [html/feature/whatwg] [giow] (3) Change EventSource so that it retries the connection in case of certain 5xx errors and in case of DNS errors or failed connections at the TCP level - ianh
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  23. # [01:52] <gitbot> [html] hober pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/7d5eeb4a226b1ed4cf0112d9b0beff3a795b67ab
  24. # [01:52] <gitbot> [html/master] [scripts] Add specedit.el, which contains utilities for editing the spec with Emacs. - Edward O'Connor
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  27. # [02:08] <gitbot> [html] hober pushed 2 new commits to w3c-srcset: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/b425c6d40f13...221161bd6ef4
  28. # [02:08] <gitbot> [html/w3c-srcset] Merge in the latest updates from trunk. - Edward O'Connor
  29. # [02:08] <gitbot> [html/w3c-srcset] [meta] Fix up publication tool markers. - Edward O'Connor
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  33. # [02:19] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 2 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/bc893e1b049f...8eb9bcd0f89f
  34. # [02:19] <gitbot> [html/feature/whatwg] [c] (2) Make --> in cue payloads non-conforming since it won't be parsed right anyway. - ianh
  35. # [02:19] <gitbot> [html/feature/whatwg] [cgow] (1) Allow 'opacity' and 'visibility' on ::cue - ianh
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  46. # [03:07] <gitbot> [html] hober pushed 3 new commits to w3c-srcset: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/221161bd6ef4...969a0777f85e
  47. # [03:07] <gitbot> [html/w3c-srcset] Fix building of the 2dcontext and html specs on this branch. - Edward O'Connor
  48. # [03:07] <gitbot> [html/w3c-srcset] Fix srcset spec's header formatting. - Edward O'Connor
  49. # [03:07] <gitbot> [html/w3c-srcset] Fix header formatting and validation of the various specs. - Edward O'Connor
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  53. # [03:23] <gitbot> [html] hober pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/40afbff0f5c315f7d83fb151460cba89b8fe3913
  54. # [03:23] <gitbot> [html/master] [scripts] Add 'specedit-insert-inert-block-at-point' command. - Edward O'Connor
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  173. # [16:46] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 3 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/2b39eb86a68a...8a8aa8725bf7
  174. # [16:46] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] MD headers - Robin Berjon
  175. # [16:46] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] fixes to 2d - Robin Berjon
  176. # [16:46] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] script that fixes markup spec - Robin Berjon
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  188. # [17:26] <gitbot> [html] hober pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/444fd57260bd2d5d533089f72763943a42529ec3
  189. # [17:26] <gitbot> [html/master] [Bug 19406] Change 'screen readers' example to 'printers'. - Edward O'Connor
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  195. # [18:05] <plh> bug 18299?
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  199. # [18:10] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  200. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  201. # [18:10] <Eliot_> zakim, Microsoft has me
  202. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Eliot_; got it
  203. # [18:10] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  204. # [18:10] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  206. # [18:10] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/10/11-html-wg-irc
  207. # [18:10] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  208. # [18:10] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  209. # [18:10] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  210. # [18:10] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  211. # [18:10] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  212. # [18:10] <trackbot> Date: 11 October 2012
  213. # [18:10] <Zakim> +cabanier
  214. # [18:10] <jaymunro> zakim, Microsoft has me
  215. # [18:10] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  216. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Sam
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  219. # [18:11] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012OctDec/0002.html
  220. # [18:11] <Zakim> + +1.626.379.aaaa
  221. # [18:11] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  222. # [18:11] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  223. # [18:11] <hober> Zakim, Apple is me
  224. # [18:11] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  225. # [18:11] <paulc__> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
  226. # [18:11] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  227. # [18:12] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  228. # [18:12] <paulc__> I will need a scribe for this meeting.
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  230. # [18:12] <Zakim> +??P2
  231. # [18:12] <janina> zakim, ??P2 is Janina
  232. # [18:12] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  233. # [18:12] <cabanier> scribenick: cabanier
  234. # [18:13] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aaa]
  235. # [18:13] <paulc__> zakim, who is on the phone?
  236. # [18:13] <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], cabanier, Sam, +1.626.379.aaaa, [Microsoft.a], hober, [Microsoft.aa], Janina, [Microsoft.aaa]
  237. # [18:13] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has paulc
  238. # [18:13] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  239. # [18:13] <adrianba_> zakim, [Microsoft.aaa] is me
  240. # [18:13] <Zakim> +adrianba_; got it
  241. # [18:13] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  242. # [18:13] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  243. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Plh
  244. # [18:13] <paulc__> rssagent, generate minutes
  245. # [18:13] * hober brb, coffee
  246. # [18:14] <Zakim> +bryan_
  247. # [18:14] <adrianba_> rrsagent, make minutes
  248. # [18:14] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/11-html-wg-minutes.html adrianba_
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  252. # [18:15] <paulc__> zakim, who is on the phone?
  253. # [18:15] <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], cabanier, Sam, +1.626.379.aaaa, [Microsoft.a], hober, [Microsoft.aa], Janina, adrianba_, Plh, bryan_, ddorwin
  254. # [18:15] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has paulc
  255. # [18:15] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  256. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Wayne_Carr
  257. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  258. # [18:16] <bryan> present+ Bryan_Sullivan
  259. # [18:16] <cabanier> paulc__: we have a large number of topics
  260. # [18:16] <cabanier> topic: actionitems due by Thursday, October 11: ACTION-222: Create a preference poll for the appcache mailing list
  261. # [18:16] <paulc__> Action-222?
  262. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-222
  263. # [18:16] <trackbot> ACTION-222 -- Maciej Stachowiak to create a preference poll for the appcache mailing list -- due 2012-09-27 -- OPEN
  264. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/222
  265. # [18:16] <cabanier> paulc__: is Maciej here?
  266. # [18:17] <Eliot_> zakim, microsoft has jaymunro, eliot
  267. # [18:17] <Zakim> jaymunro was already listed in [Microsoft], Eliot_
  268. # [18:17] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  269. # [18:17] <cabanier> paulc__: this action is still pending. Maciej is holding off because people were proposing a separate mailing list
  270. # [18:17] <cabanier> paulc: let's make this action item due on oct 18
  271. # [18:17] <adrianba_> action-222 due oct 18
  272. # [18:17] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-222.
  273. # [18:17] <trackbot> ACTION-222 Create a preference poll for the appcache mailing list due date now oct 18
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  275. # [18:17] <cabanier> topic: TPAC F2F meeting planning, Chair
  276. # [18:18] <cabanier> paulc__: registration will go up after oct 16
  277. # [18:18] * hober back
  278. # [18:18] <cabanier> paulc__: 44 people from the WG have registered and 40 observers
  279. # [18:18] <cabanier> paulc__: the venue is identical to the one 2 years ago
  280. # [18:19] <cabanier> paulc__: we have the exact same rooms. There will be polycom but unsure of the quality
  281. # [18:19] <cabanier> paulc__: we will have to set call in numbers
  282. # [18:19] <cabanier> cynthia: I will call in
  283. # [18:20] <cabanier> topic: HTML WG F2F meeting agenda topics, Nov 1-2
  284. # [18:20] <cabanier> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/TPAC2012
  285. # [18:20] <cabanier> paulc__: please update the wiki with agenda topics
  286. # [18:20] <cabanier> paulc__: …during the meeting we will create the times
  287. # [18:21] <cabanier> paulc__: …anyone have any questions about the topics?
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  289. # [18:21] <adrianba_> i just added a request for the media extension specs
  290. # [18:23] <cabanier> janina: some of us are spending thursday and friday in a different working group
  291. # [18:23] <cabanier> paulc__: does the accessiblity discuss this yet?
  292. # [18:23] <cabanier> janina: I'm not aware if we have much of an agenda for HTML at this TPAC
  293. # [18:24] <cabanier> topic: dopt "Plan 2014" and make some specific related decisions,
  294. # [18:24] <cabanier> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Oct/0026.html
  295. # [18:25] <cabanier> paulc__: this was discussed on the ally call before this meeting
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  297. # [18:25] <cabanier> paulc__: so far the response was positive and questions
  298. # [18:25] <Zakim> + +1.613.491.aabb
  299. # [18:25] <cabanier> paulc__: … and it looks like it will pass
  300. # [18:25] <MartinSoukup> zakim, aabb is me
  301. # [18:25] <Zakim> +MartinSoukup; got it
  302. # [18:26] <cabanier> topic: HTML 5.0 "Features at Risk",
  303. # [18:26] <cabanier> paulc__: we want people to be aware of the at-risk features
  304. # [18:26] <cabanier> paulc__: …we need this list when we get the CR ready
  305. # [18:26] <cabanier> link: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/index.php?title=HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures
  306. # [18:27] <cabanier> paulc__: …there is a fair number of items
  307. # [18:27] <cabanier> paulc__: …both in HTML and Canvas2D. we will need a consensus in the WG on what this means
  308. # [18:28] <cabanier> paulc__: if there is no implementation, we will have to drop this features
  309. # [18:28] <cabanier> paulc__: the chairs are expecting that we will go to last call to go over the process requirement behond features at risk
  310. # [18:29] <cabanier> topic: Publication of Heartbeat Working Drafts
  311. # [18:30] <cabanier> paulc__: the current status is that HTML5: Web Developers Edition is not quite ready
  312. # [18:30] <cabanier> paulc__: …all the other are
  313. # [18:30] <cabanier> paulc__: …we are hoping to publish on Oct22
  314. # [18:30] <jaymunro> Canvas should be ok but it needs to be taken from html5_canvas, not Master.
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  316. # [18:30] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 3 new commits to heartbeat-201210: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/8a8aa8725bf7...8d14c0d4a960
  317. # [18:30] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] progress; pubrules can take args - Robin Berjon
  318. # [18:30] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] cherry picked 7299180159ec4748e511429de842c5375656733a - Sam Ruby
  319. # [18:30] <cabanier> paulc__: does anyone have questions?
  320. # [18:30] <gitbot> [html/heartbeat-201210] Correcting encoding of cldr.inc and entities.inc (from UCS-2 big endian to UTF-8) - Erika Doyle Navara
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  322. # [18:31] <cabanier> paulc__: last time we published was in March (which is more than 3 months)
  323. # [18:31] <cabanier> topic: http://webplatform.org/ announcement,
  324. # [18:31] <cabanier> http://www.w3.org/News/2012#entry-9589
  325. # [18:31] <cabanier> http://blog.webplatform.org/
  326. # [18:32] <cabanier> Philip: this is a website by the w3c and several companies
  327. # [18:32] <cabanier> Philip: …this is a wiki and anyone can update
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  329. # [18:32] <cabanier> Philip: …the site is just beginning but already got a lot of edits since Monday
  330. # [18:32] <Eliot_> q+
  331. # [18:32] * Zakim sees Eliot_ on the speaker queue
  332. # [18:33] <cabanier> Philip: …it would be nice if the WG takes a lot
  333. # [18:33] <cabanier> Philip: …we hope people contribute and make it better
  334. # [18:33] <cabanier> paulc__: what is the relation between w3c and the website
  335. # [18:33] <cabanier> Philip: we provide the structure behind it but we don't control it
  336. # [18:34] <plh> ack Eliot
  337. # [18:34] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  338. # [18:34] <cabanier> Eliot_: the content currently comes from a number of organisation
  339. # [18:34] <cabanier> Eliot_: … and we got a lot of edits since launch
  340. # [18:35] <cabanier> Eliot_: … over 700000 page views and tons of edits
  341. # [18:35] <cabanier> Eliot_: … it would be good that people talk or blog about it
  342. # [18:35] <cabanier> paulc__: is there a link that gives an idea on these staticstics?
  343. # [18:36] <cabanier> Eliot_: yes. I will provide a link
  344. # [18:36] <rubys> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
  345. # [18:36] <cabanier> Eliot_: we have over 200 people on the IRC channel
  346. # [18:37] <Eliot_> Metrics: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Site_Metrics
  347. # [18:37] <cabanier> paulc__: Maciej or Sam will chair next week
  348. # [18:38] <cabanier> Daniel: I just joined the group. I work for paypal
  349. # [18:38] <cabanier> Daniel: I've been with the group for 10 years and happy to be back
  350. # [18:39] <cabanier> Daniel: I'm reading up. I'm hoping to attend the F2F in Lyon.
  351. # [18:39] <Zakim> -Wayne_Carr
  352. # [18:39] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  353. # [18:39] <Zakim> -bryan_
  354. # [18:40] <Zakim> -MartinSoukup
  355. # [18:40] <cabanier> paulc__: anyone volunteering for a scribe?
  356. # [18:40] <Zakim> -Plh
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  358. # [18:40] <paulc__> rrsagent, generate minutes
  359. # [18:40] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/10/11-html-wg-minutes.html paulc__
  360. # [18:40] <cabanier> silence
  361. # [18:40] <Zakim> -adrianba_
  362. # [18:40] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  363. # [18:40] <Zakim> -hober
  364. # [18:40] <Zakim> - +1.626.379.aaaa
  365. # [18:40] <Zakim> -Janina
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  368. # [18:40] <Zakim> -ddorwin
  369. # [18:40] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
  370. # [18:40] <Zakim> -Sam
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  372. # [18:40] <Zakim> -cabanier
  373. # [18:40] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  374. # [18:40] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  375. # [18:40] <Zakim> Attendees were Eliot_, cabanier, jaymunro, Sam, +1.626.379.aaaa, [Microsoft], hober, paulc, Janina, adrianba_, Plh, bryan_, ddorwin, Wayne_Carr, Cynthia_Shelly, eliot,
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  428. # [23:34] <hober> MikeSmith: 1) a component for the srcset spec
  429. # [23:35] <hober> MikeSmith: 1) a component for tracking work on the tools we use to generate and publish the various specs
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