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  42. # [06:06] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 2 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/d5bd64200791...91afdc7c9859
  43. # [06:06] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 05ffac7 ianh: [e] (0) More ruby examples....
  44. # [06:06] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 91afdc7 ianh: [e] (0) Clarify that these use cases aren't exclusive....
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  110. # [17:58] <mjs> hi everyone
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  112. # [18:00] * hober a11y tf call ran a few minutes late
  113. # [18:01] <mjs> Zakim, who is on the call?
  114. # [18:01] <Zakim> sorry, mjs, I don't know what conference this is
  115. # [18:01] <Zakim> On IRC I see adrianba, Barbara, mjs, Norm, jaymunro, tinkster, davidb, plh, tmpsantos, darobin, nonge, Stevef, tantek, icaaq, slightlyoff, timeless, heycam|away, danielfi_,
  116. # [18:01] <Zakim> ... pbakaus, heath, tH, mamund, paul___irish, hober, Dashiva, gavin
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  118. # [18:01] <mjs> Zakim, this is HTML
  119. # [18:01] <Zakim> ok, mjs; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
  120. # [18:01] <mjs> Zakim, who is on the call?
  121. # [18:01] <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.206.850.aaaa, Christian, [Apple], Cynthia_Shelly
  122. # [18:01] <Zakim> +??P0
  123. # [18:01] <hober> Zakim, Apple is mjs
  124. # [18:01] <Zakim> +mjs; got it
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  126. # [18:01] <janina> zakim, ??P0 is Janina
  127. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  128. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  129. # [18:01] <hober> Zakim, Apple is me
  130. # [18:01] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  131. # [18:01] <mjs> is anyone willing to scribe this week?
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  134. # [18:02] * hober can scribe
  135. # [18:02] <hober> ScribeNick: hober
  136. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  137. # [18:02] <hober> Topic: Action items due by Thursday, December 13
  138. # [18:03] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  139. # [18:03] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  140. # [18:03] <hober> mjs: there are none
  141. # [18:03] <hober> Topic: New Issues This Week
  142. # [18:03] <hober> mjs: also none, but there are 8 tracker requests
  143. # [18:03] <hober> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
  144. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Aaron_Colwell
  145. # [18:03] <hober> Topic: Status of WG documents
  146. # [18:04] <hober> mjs: status of HTML5
  147. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  148. # [18:04] <hober> ... we've put in a CR transition request to the director
  149. # [18:04] <hober> ... along with the formal objections
  150. # [18:05] <jaymunro> zakim, [microsoft] has me
  151. # [18:05] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  152. # [18:05] <hober> ... no update to report
  153. # [18:05] <hober> HTML Canvas 2D Context
  154. # [18:05] <hober> mjs: in same state as HTML5
  155. # [18:05] <hober> s/HTML Canvas 2D Context/mjs: HTML Canvas 2D Context/
  156. # [18:05] <hober> mjs: HTML Microdata
  157. # [18:05] <hober> ... we will soon have a note v. rec survey
  158. # [18:06] <hober> ... otherwise it's pretty much ready for cr
  159. # [18:06] <hober> ... Polyglot Markup: HTML-Compatible XHTML Documents
  160. # [18:06] <hober> ... also about ready for note v. rec survey
  161. # [18:06] <hober> ... we have rationale statements both ways
  162. # [18:06] <hober> ... needs some additional work if it is to proceed to CR
  163. # [18:07] <hober> ... needs to meet the CR template, and needs CR exit criteria
  164. # [18:07] <hober> ... since it has no UA conformance requirements
  165. # [18:07] <hober> ... HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives
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  167. # [18:07] <hober> ... also pending a survey, there is active discussion
  168. # [18:07] <hober> ... also needs to meet the CR template, and needs CR exit criteria
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  170. # [18:08] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  171. # [18:08] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  172. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Plh
  173. # [18:08] <hober> ... next several documents have been published as WD by the WG but have never gone to LC
  174. # [18:08] <hober> ... HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation Guide
  175. # [18:09] <hober> ... HTML5 differences from HTML4
  176. # [18:09] <hober> ... HTML5: Edition for Web Authors
  177. # [18:09] <hober> ... HTML: The Markup Language (an HTML language reference)
  178. # [18:09] <Zakim> +ddorwin
  179. # [18:09] <hober> ... as some point we should look to see if any of these document should proceed to LC and beyond
  180. # [18:09] <hober> ... there are several extension specifications
  181. # [18:10] <hober> ... they have EDs, most have not gone to FPWD
  182. # [18:10] <hober> ... with the exception of the <main> element spec
  183. # [18:10] <hober> ... some of the others may have been dropped by their editor
  184. # [18:10] <hober> ... and others will be proposed FPWD soon, when their editors are ready
  185. # [18:11] <hober> ... HTML 5.1 series
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  188. # [18:12] <jaymunro> It's currently being called : HTML Canvas 2D Context, Level 2
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  190. # [18:12] <hober> ... now that HTML5 and the Canvas 2D Context API are moving along, preparing FPWD documents of the next versions
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  192. # [18:12] <hober> plh: is fpwd request the next step?
  193. # [18:12] <hober> mjs: i believe so
  194. # [18:13] <hober> plh: will you be doing this, or one of the other chairs?
  195. # [18:13] <hober> mjs: unsure at this time, will discuss with my co-chairs
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  197. # [18:13] <hober> ... ARIA in HTML
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  199. # [18:13] <hober> ... a proposed non-normative set of guidelines
  200. # [18:13] <hober> ... currently being discussed by the a11y tf
  201. # [18:13] <hober> ... likely to be proposed to the wg soon
  202. # [18:14] <hober> janina: i think the longdesc extension spec will be ready for a fpwd cfc soon
  203. # [18:14] <hober> ... tf is organizing the feedback it's received
  204. # [18:15] <hober> ... request to publish probably a week or two away
  205. # [18:15] <hober> Topic: Other Business
  206. # [18:15] <hober> mjs: we've had a suggestion to require a CFC to add features to HTML 5.1 and perhaps other specs
  207. # [18:15] <hober> ... the chairs are somewhat receptive to this, but there are many details that would need to be worked out
  208. # [18:16] <hober> ... first, which deliverables
  209. # [18:16] <hober> ... 5.1 likely, new extension specs unlikely, canvas a grey area
  210. # [18:16] <hober> ... important to define what happens if the CfC passes
  211. # [18:16] <hober> ... does that mean that no one gets to object to the feature in the future
  212. # [18:16] <hober> ... if fails, could someone use the decision process to get it in anyway
  213. # [18:17] <hober> ... these are some of the things we'd have to define in order to have such a policy
  214. # [18:17] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  215. # [18:18] <hober> janina: it's not clear how issues get reopened for 5.1 (that were resolved in 5.0)
  216. # [18:18] <hober> ... we want to clearly mark in bugs that things are open for 5.1 but resolved for 5.0
  217. # [18:19] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  218. # [18:19] <hober> Topic: Other other business
  219. # [18:19] * odinho the best kind of business
  220. # [18:19] <hober> Topic: Scribe for next meeting
  221. # [18:20] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  222. # [18:20] <hober> hober: when is the next meeting? holiday cancellations, etc.
  223. # [18:20] <hober> mjs: dec 20 and 27 will be cancelled
  224. # [18:20] <hober> ... next meeting is jan 3
  225. # [18:21] <hober> janina: a11y tf will meet next week, then not until jan 10
  226. # [18:21] <hober> Topic: Adjournment
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  228. # [18:21] <hober> mjs: we are adjourned
  229. # [18:21] <Zakim> - +1.206.850.aaaa
  230. # [18:21] <Zakim> -mjs
  231. # [18:21] <Zakim> -Aaron_Colwell
  232. # [18:21] <Zakim> -hober
  233. # [18:21] <Zakim> -Janina
  234. # [18:21] <Zakim> -adrianba
  235. # [18:21] <Zakim> -Christian
  236. # [18:21] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  237. # [18:21] * Parts: janina (~janina@public.cloak) (janina)
  238. # [18:21] <hober> RRSAgent: make logs public
  239. # [18:21] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, hober
  240. # [18:21] <Zakim> -ddorwin
  241. # [18:21] <hober> RRSAgent: generate minutes
  242. # [18:21] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-html-wg-minutes.html hober
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  247. # [18:23] <hober> Chair: mjs
  248. # [18:23] <hober> RRSAgent: generate minutes
  249. # [18:23] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-html-wg-minutes.html hober
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  262. # [19:31] <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Plh, in HTML_WG()12:00PM
  263. # [19:31] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  264. # [19:31] <Zakim> Attendees were +1.206.850.aaaa, Christian, Cynthia_Shelly, mjs, Janina, hober, adrianba, Aaron_Colwell, jaymunro, Plh, ddorwin
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  284. # [22:06] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/2c9d7045e156b1db93c994f8f265e1f4943001e9
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