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  25. # [04:24] <gitbot> [html] techtoons pushed 1 new commit to FPWD51: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/37b935e6291ec412f96598881dc9d2dc53e10117
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  78. # [11:45] <Stevef> darobin: anything I can do to help the main edits along? (apart from mess it up further)
  79. # [11:46] <chriho> Hi, is any group working on audiotracks implementation? (http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-video-element.html#audiotracklist-and-videotracklist-objects)
  80. # [11:48] <chriho> it says ready for implementation since 2011-09-08
  81. # [12:01] <Stevef> MikeSmith: paul C says: "Can Steve and Mike work together to figure out how to get this FPWD published?" as in Using ARIA, should I be talking to you or Robin?
  82. # [12:03] <MikeSmith> either way
  83. # [12:09] <Stevef> ok
  84. # [12:09] <Stevef> will get it ready and ping somebody when done
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  94. # [13:50] <darobin> Stevef: no, I'll get around to it shortly
  95. # [13:51] <Stevef> darobin: no problem, just breathing down your neck :-)
  96. # [13:51] <darobin> hehe
  97. # [13:51] <darobin> lots of people at the back of my neck it seems :)
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  99. # [13:52] <Stevef> darobin: i want to get the pull stuff smoothed out as it is a good way to provide changes for the alt text stuff
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  104. # [14:02] <darobin> Stevef: sure, you just have to follow a simple protocol
  105. # [14:02] <darobin> first make sure that you have all the changes in upstream, as described in the github help page I pointed to the other day
  106. # [14:03] <darobin> then when in master, git checkout -b alt-text-stuff
  107. # [14:03] <darobin> then make all your changes there
  108. # [14:03] <darobin> (if you want to make unrelated changes, just reswitch to another branch)
  109. # [14:03] <darobin> then git push origin alt-text-stuff
  110. # [14:03] <darobin> then you can make a pull request on GH based on that
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  112. # [14:04] <Stevef> ok sounds simple what about line ending normalization?
  113. # [14:04] <Stevef> i think the main mistake i made was not creating a new branch
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  117. # [14:10] <darobin> line ending normalisation?
  118. # [14:11] <darobin> you mean \n vs whatever benighted setup exists on Windows?
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  120. # [14:11] <darobin> you also started off FPWD51 which isn't the right branch to branch off of
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  128. # [14:31] <Stevef> darobin: line ending normalisation? yes in github for windows it offers me the prefernce to add default line ending, stuff
  129. # [14:35] <darobin> ah
  130. # [14:35] <darobin> use \n please :)
  131. # [14:38] <Stevef> ok
  132. # [14:46] <Stevef> darobin: ok so in notepad++ on windows that equates to LF i think unix/OSX format
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  135. # [14:55] <darobin> yes, it's the unix ending you want
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  140. # [15:05] <Stevef> thanks
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  172. # [18:00] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  173. # [18:00] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  175. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-html-wg-irc
  176. # [18:00] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  177. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  179. # [18:00] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  180. # [18:00] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start now
  181. # [18:00] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  182. # [18:00] <trackbot> Date: 10 January 2013
  183. # [18:00] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  184. # [18:00] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013JanMar/0003.html
  185. # [18:00] <Zakim> +??P5
  186. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  187. # [18:01] <hober> Zakim, Apple is me
  188. # [18:01] <Zakim> +hober; got it
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  190. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  192. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  193. # [18:01] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  194. # [18:01] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  195. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Sam
  196. # [18:01] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  197. # [18:01] <janina> zakim, ??P
  198. # [18:01] <Zakim> I don't understand '??P', janina
  199. # [18:01] <janina> zakim, who's here?
  200. # [18:01] <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P5, hober, krisk, Sam
  201. # [18:02] <Zakim> On IRC I see Barbara, paulc, Zakim, RRSAgent, janina, krisk, rubys, Norm, adrianba, cabanier, jaymunro, lgombos, plh, tinkster, davidb, yoav, ArtB, nonge, tH, Stevef, icaaq,
  202. # [18:02] <Zakim> ... johndrinkwater, slightlyoff_, karl, Jedi, krijnh, hober, inimino, jmb
  203. # [18:02] <janina> zakim, ??P5 is Janina
  204. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  205. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  206. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  207. # [18:02] <Zakim> +cabanier
  208. # [18:02] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft.a has me
  209. # [18:02] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  210. # [18:02] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
  211. # [18:02] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  212. # [18:02] <Zakim> +christian
  213. # [18:02] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  214. # [18:02] <paulc> Jay I think you are [Microsoft]
  215. # [18:02] <glenn> +Present glenn (irc only)
  216. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  217. # [18:03] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
  218. # [18:03] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  219. # [18:03] <jaymunro> sorry paul, was waiting for you to call first.
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  221. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  222. # [18:04] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
  223. # [18:04] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  224. # [18:04] <rubys> topic: 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, January 10
  225. # [18:04] <rubys> scribenick: rubys
  226. # [18:05] <rubys> scribenick: krisk
  227. # [18:05] <krisk> rubys: no action items due today
  228. # [18:05] <krisk> Next item Calls for Consensus
  229. # [18:05] <krisk> Their are two in progress
  230. # [18:05] <krisk> a) ARIA in HTML as FPWD
  231. # [18:06] <krisk> Which has passed
  232. # [18:06] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0006.html
  233. # [18:06] <krisk> Next item is the Media Source Extensions as FPWD
  234. # [18:06] <krisk> This call closes on Jan 16th
  235. # [18:06] <krisk> Next up is Task Force Reports
  236. # [18:07] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  237. # [18:07] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  238. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Plh
  239. # [18:07] <krisk> First up testing task force
  240. # [18:09] <krisk> The last time the TTF gave progress we said we were in discussion about changing the test suite organization
  241. # [18:09] <krisk> The group agreed to a new structure that should help tests map to the specification
  242. # [18:10] <krisk> The TTF has also been working on moving from Hg to Github, though this is a work in progress
  243. # [18:10] <krisk> The group meets next tuesday on Jan 15th
  244. # [18:10] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing#Upcoming_meetings
  245. # [18:10] <krisk> Any questions for the testing task force?
  246. # [18:11] <krisk> No questions raised
  247. # [18:11] <krisk> Next Accessibility Task Force
  248. # [18:11] <krisk> Group met and plan to propose a longdesc proposal
  249. # [18:11] <krisk> The group triaged a number of bugs
  250. # [18:12] <krisk> Other than that not too much to report back to the WG
  251. # [18:12] <krisk> Any questions?
  252. # [18:12] <krisk> No questions raised
  253. # [18:12] <paulc> test
  254. # [18:12] <krisk> next up media task force
  255. # [18:13] <krisk> a CFC is out for the first working draft for the media source extension spec
  256. # [18:13] <krisk> The agenda for the next meeting is getting a candidate document for the encrypted media spec
  257. # [18:14] <krisk> Both specs have a number of bug that the meetings will triage these bugs in meetings
  258. # [18:14] <krisk> any questions?
  259. # [18:14] <krisk> none raised
  260. # [18:14] <krisk> Next agenda item Other Business
  261. # [18:14] <krisk> Proposed Disposition of Tracker Items
  262. # [18:14] <krisk> A number of responses
  263. # [18:14] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0007.html
  264. # [18:15] <krisk> Of the bugs resolved to Ian will get assigned to the editors
  265. # [18:15] <krisk> The request to get adaptive images without testing needs more discussion
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  267. # [18:16] <krisk> HTML CR FAQ
  268. # [18:16] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/CR
  269. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Tantek
  270. # [18:16] <tantek> Zakim, mute Tantek
  271. # [18:16] <Zakim> Tantek should now be muted
  272. # [18:16] <krisk> A11y TF Bugzilla component
  273. # [18:16] <krisk> More discussion generated no major objections
  274. # [18:17] <krisk> paulc: I want to see how this is being used before raising more objections
  275. # [18:17] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jan/0014.html
  276. # [18:17] <krisk> Next Spring HTML WG F2F
  277. # [18:17] <paulc> Paul is concerned about having a component that is based on a TF and not on a single specification.
  278. # [18:18] <krisk> Date: April 24-25
  279. # [18:18] <krisk> Location: Bay Area
  280. # [18:18] <krisk> Plh working on when web apps and html will meet (could be html then web apps)
  281. # [18:19] <plh> HTML: 23-24 April (Tuesday-Wednesday)
  282. # [18:19] <plh> WebApps: 25-26 April (Thursday-Friday)
  283. # [18:19] <plh> WAI PF is likely to be April 24-25 (Wed-Thu)
  284. # [18:20] <krisk> Paulc: that means the accessibility work in html would need to occur on 23rd
  285. # [18:21] <krisk> paulc: ..or do a join meeting on on 24th
  286. # [18:21] <krisk> plh: janina can you check that these dates work (sent you an email)
  287. # [18:22] <krisk> plh: Expecting about 45 people for HTML/WebApps and 15 for WAI PF
  288. # [18:23] <krisk> plh: will create a web form to track attendance, etc..like we have done in the past
  289. # [18:23] <krisk> paulc: earlier the better to get this up
  290. # [18:23] * tantek requests we use the W3C wiki if we can. Thanks plh :)
  291. # [18:23] <krisk> plh: Yes tantek I'll use the wiki
  292. # [18:23] <krisk> paulc: will the rooms be able to do a telconf?
  293. # [18:24] <krisk> plh: will check
  294. # [18:24] * tantek clarifies, the *W3C*-wide wiki, not the HTMLWG specific silo-wiki. ;)
  295. # [18:24] * tantek notes http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg
  296. # [18:25] <krisk> Next Upcoming Preference Polls:
  297. # [18:25] <krisk> 3 upcoming polls, 2 ready to be sent
  298. # [18:25] <krisk> Ready Preference poll on Polyglot normative status
  299. # [18:25] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Dec/0082.html
  300. # [18:25] <krisk> Next one in progress Preference polls on Microdata normative status
  301. # [18:26] <krisk> Alt Techniques -- on hold
  302. # [18:26] <plh> regrets for next meeting
  303. # [18:26] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0002.html
  304. # [18:26] <krisk> Scibe for next meeting?
  305. # [18:26] <krisk> s/Scibe/Scribe/
  306. # [18:26] <krisk> rick will scribe (thanks!)
  307. # [18:27] <Zakim> -Janina
  308. # [18:27] * Parts: janina (~janina@public.cloak) (janina)
  309. # [18:27] <krisk> Adjournment
  310. # [18:27] * Quits: jaymunro (~jaymunro@public.cloak) ("")
  311. # [18:27] <Zakim> -hober
  312. # [18:27] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  313. # [18:27] <Zakim> -adrianba
  314. # [18:27] <Zakim> -Sam
  315. # [18:27] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  316. # [18:27] <Zakim> -Plh
  317. # [18:27] <rubys> s/rick/Rik/
  318. # [18:27] <krisk> no objections meeting adjourned
  319. # [18:27] <Zakim> -krisk
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  321. # [18:28] <Zakim> -christian
  322. # [18:28] <Zakim> -Tantek
  323. # [18:31] <krisk> RRSAgent, make logs public
  324. # [18:31] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, krisk
  325. # [18:31] <krisk> rrsagent, generate minutes
  326. # [18:31] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/10-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
  327. # [18:31] <tantek> plh - I stubbed http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda - feel free to rename
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  341. # [19:16] <Zakim> -cabanier
  342. # [19:16] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  343. # [19:16] <Zakim> Attendees were hober, Sam, krisk, Janina, cabanier, jaymunro, paulc, christian, [Microsoft], adrianba, Plh, Tantek
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