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  4. # [00:09] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/9614e5452c7a2027127c808652484adf4c0cae3e
  5. # [00:09] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 9614e54 ianh: [e] (0) Elaborate on example description...
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  14. # [01:09] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 4 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/9614e5452c7a...babafd346a6a
  15. # [01:09] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg e8a206f ianh: [e] (0) Clarify a note...
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  23. # [02:09] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 2 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/babafd346a6a...31114bb1f3f2
  24. # [02:09] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg b4f86d8 ianh: [] (0) Fix WebIDL for onerror callback....
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  68. # [13:57] <ArtB> MikeSmith - is the HTMLWG _definitely_ having a f2f meeting in April?
  69. # [14:01] <MikeSmith> ArtB: yeah
  70. # [14:02] <ArtB> MikeSmith - what are the dates for HTMLWG and WebApps?
  71. # [14:04] <ArtB> (sorry if I missed the announcement; can't find the dates ...)
  72. # [14:05] <MikeSmith> HTML WG is 23rd and 24th I believe
  73. # [14:06] <MikeSmith> WebAppSec WG may meet those days too
  74. # [14:06] <MikeSmith> WebApps is 25 and 26
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  76. # [14:07] <ArtB> thanks!
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  104. # [18:02] <paulc> can someone please invite zakim?
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  106. # [18:02] <glenn> trackbot, start meeting
  107. # [18:03] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  109. # [18:03] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/01/31-html-wg-irc
  110. # [18:03] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  111. # [18:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  113. # [18:03] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  114. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  115. # [18:03] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  116. # [18:03] <trackbot> Date: 31 January 2013
  117. # [18:03] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  118. # [18:03] <Zakim> On the phone I see Aaron_Colwell, [Microsoft], [Apple]
  119. # [18:03] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  120. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  121. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Mike
  122. # [18:03] * janina Having Zakim issues just now ...
  123. # [18:03] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  124. # [18:03] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  125. # [18:03] <Zakim> +ddorwin
  126. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  127. # [18:04] <Zakim> +joesteele
  128. # [18:04] <krisk> zakim, Microsoft.a has krisk
  129. # [18:04] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
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  131. # [18:04] <janina> zakim, call janina
  132. # [18:04] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  133. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Janina
  134. # [18:05] <krisk> scribe: krisk
  135. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  136. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
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  140. # [18:05] <Zakim> +glenn
  141. # [18:05] <jaymunro> zakim, Microsoft.aaa has me
  142. # [18:05] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  143. # [18:06] <glenn> zakim, mute me
  144. # [18:06] <Zakim> glenn should now be muted
  145. # [18:06] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  146. # [18:06] <Zakim> On the phone I see Aaron_Colwell, [Microsoft], [Apple], Mike, ddorwin, [Microsoft.a], joesteele, Janina, Radhika_Roy, [Microsoft.aa], [Microsoft.aaa], glenn (muted)
  147. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has krisk
  148. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft.aaa] has jaymunro
  149. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  150. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Sam
  151. # [18:07] <krisk> 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, January 31
  152. # [18:07] <krisk> TOPIC: 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, January 31 None
  153. # [18:07] <krisk> TOPIC: 2. New Issues This Week:
  154. # [18:07] <krisk> none
  155. # [18:07] <krisk> There are 5 tracker requests
  156. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aaaa]
  157. # [18:07] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aaaa] is me
  158. # [18:07] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  159. # [18:07] <krisk> paulc: working through them one at a time
  160. # [18:07] <krisk> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
  161. # [18:08] <edoyle> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
  162. # [18:08] <Zakim> +edoyle; got it
  163. # [18:08] <krisk> paulc: two are cover by other agenda items, trying to avoid them becoming issues
  164. # [18:08] <krisk> TOPIC: 3. Items Closed Last Week
  165. # [18:08] <krisk> First CfC: handle ISSUE-207 responsive-images consistently with Plan 2014, Closed Jan 23 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0020.html
  166. # [18:08] <krisk> close with no object
  167. # [18:09] <krisk> Second Preference Survey: Microdata Note vs Recommendation Track, Closed Jan 24 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0022.html
  168. # [18:09] <krisk> also closed last week
  169. # [18:09] <krisk> TOPIC: 4. Items Closing This Week
  170. # [18:09] <krisk> One item a) CfC: to publish Encrypted Media Extensions specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD), Closed Jan 30 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0102.html
  171. # [18:09] <krisk> paulc: This is an active thread on the list, chairs discussing how to proceed
  172. # [18:10] <krisk> paulc: both lots of disent and lots of people that agree with the WD publishing
  173. # [18:10] <krisk> TOPIC: 5. Items Closing Next Week
  174. # [18:10] <krisk> none
  175. # [18:10] <krisk> TOPIC: 6. New Calls this week
  176. # [18:10] <krisk> First CfC: HTML Microdata minimum CR period, Closes Feb 4 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0184.html
  177. # [18:10] <krisk> closed
  178. # [18:11] <krisk> Second CfC: to publish Public Identifiers for Entity Resolution in XHTML specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD), Closes Feb 6 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0212.html
  179. # [18:11] <krisk> paulc: A number of explicit supporters
  180. # [18:11] <krisk> TOPIC: 7. New Surveys this week
  181. # [18:11] <krisk> none
  182. # [18:11] <krisk> TOPIC: 8. Decisions this week
  183. # [18:11] <krisk> a) WG Decision on Microdata Note vs Recommendation Track http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0182.html
  184. # [18:12] <krisk> b) CFC: Request transition of HTML Microdata to Candidate Recommendation
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  186. # [18:12] <krisk> paulc: WG decision to move Microdata to CR
  187. # [18:13] <krisk> paulc: I belive we do need to pick the editor for Microdata (Mike?)
  188. # [18:14] <krisk> paulc: no action item but co-chairs will pick an editor
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  190. # [18:14] <krisk> next item Isssue closing on ISSUE-207
  191. # [18:14] <krisk> CfC: handle ISSUE-207 responsive-images consistently with Plan 2014 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0185.html Status: On last week's WG call we targeted moving forward with a CfC to publish both responsive-images and srcset attribute extensions spec later this week (when Ted finishes some bug work on srset attribute proposal). Srcset bugs: http://tinyurl.com/apf88ub
  192. # [18:14] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  193. # [18:14] <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft.aa is me
  194. # [18:14] <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
  195. # [18:15] <krisk> paulc: hober are you on track to close the bugs (was at 6->7)
  196. # [18:15] <krisk> hober: we are now down to 2 and I'm happy with the progress
  197. # [18:15] <krisk> paulc: I'll do a CFC for the picture element and a seperate of the srcset attribute
  198. # [18:15] <krisk> hober: sounds good
  199. # [18:15] <krisk> paulc: sam is this ok?
  200. # [18:15] <krisk> sam: yes
  201. # [18:16] <krisk> TOPIC: 9. Task Force Reports
  202. # [18:16] <krisk> b) Accessibility Task Force
  203. # [18:16] <krisk> group working on clean bugs with keywords
  204. # [18:16] <krisk> paulc wants group to work on longdesc
  205. # [18:16] <krisk> janina: we think we have the group ready
  206. # [18:17] <krisk> janina: we have a few more edits so that it's clear...should take another week
  207. # [18:17] <krisk> janina: By Feb 8th we should be compete
  208. # [18:18] <krisk> janina: the issue on alt is on me and waiting for a response from robin
  209. # [18:18] <krisk> paulc: these are in the Other Business in the agena (item a and item b)
  210. # [18:19] <krisk> Next Media Task Force
  211. # [18:19] <krisk> We processed the meeting source extension
  212. # [18:19] <krisk> The group meets weekly
  213. # [18:20] <krisk> CFC on eme and around 30 bugs on this spec while the WG continues work the decision on the spec
  214. # [18:20] <krisk> Testing Task Force
  215. # [18:21] <krisk> Group met on tuesday (light attendance)
  216. # [18:21] <krisk> Group blocked on getting content from git -> w3c-test.org
  217. # [18:22] <krisk> Mike are you around to given an update on this issue
  218. # [18:22] <krisk> Mike: I should be able to get this done in a week
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  220. # [18:23] <krisk> krisk: will this also cover the use case where someone has a branch?
  221. # [18:23] <krisk> mike: yes this should be possible
  222. # [18:23] <krisk> krisk: ok
  223. # [18:24] <krisk> TOPIC: 10. Other Business
  224. # [18:24] <krisk> paulc: a few items
  225. # [18:24] <krisk> a) HTML5 Image Description Extension candidate FPWD http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Jan/0112.htm l Status: We are waiting for A11Y TF to finish the TF's wiki of results and then we will be ready to do a WG CfC to publish a FPWD. https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/1f251fcbe363/longdesc1/longdesc.html
  226. # [18:24] <krisk> paulc: Expect ask to Co-chairs for a CFC on Feb 8th
  227. # [18:25] <krisk> b) HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12726 which includes TrackerRequest Steve's request for a delay in a Preference Poll re normativity: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0002.html Status: This item is still awaiting a progress report from A11Y TF and Editors on the status of problems in: http://www.davidmacd.com/WCAG/WAI/buggy.html
  228. # [18:25] <krisk> paulc: I'll continue to track this so that we do get discussion on the bugs on public html
  229. # [18:26] <krisk> paulc: any comments?
  230. # [18:26] <krisk> krisk: none
  231. # [18:26] <krisk> c) Plans for preference poll on future of Polyglot document https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/polyglot-status-preference-poll/ Note: Poll is NOT open. Chairs are waiting for discussion on public-html@w3.org to finish.
  232. # [18:27] <krisk> paulc: co-chairs were going to wait to seehow the Microdata pref poll went
  233. # [18:27] <krisk> paulc: we do need to figure out how to process some of the suggestions
  234. # [18:27] <krisk> d) Media Source Extensions FPWD publication http://www.w3.org/News/2013#entry-9697 http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-media-source-20130129/
  235. # [18:28] <krisk> paulc we did have a CFC to publish ARIA in HTML as FPWD
  236. # [18:28] <krisk> e) Re: CfC: to publish ARIA in HTML specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0006.html Status: Publication is still pending resolution of Publicationa Rule changes.
  237. # [18:28] <krisk> paulc: mike are you working on this?
  238. # [18:28] <krisk> mike: yes
  239. # [18:28] <krisk> paulc: Ok thanks
  240. # [18:29] <krisk> paulc: W3C announces TPAC 2013 in china
  241. # [18:29] <krisk> f) W3C Announces TPAC 2013 in China, Nov 18-22 2013 http://www.w3.org/News/2013#entry-9703
  242. # [18:29] <krisk> paulc: any other business?
  243. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Aaron_Colwell
  244. # [18:29] <krisk> paulc: none
  245. # [18:29] <krisk> paulc: scribe for next week?
  246. # [18:29] <krisk> krisk: I can help
  247. # [18:30] <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
  248. # [18:30] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/01/31-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
  249. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  250. # [18:30] <krisk> paulc: shall we adjourn?
  251. # [18:30] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  252. # [18:30] <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], [Apple], Mike, ddorwin, [Microsoft.a], joesteele, Janina, edoyle, [Microsoft.aaa], glenn (muted), Sam, adrianba, Eliot
  253. # [18:30] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has krisk
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  255. # [18:30] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
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  257. # [18:30] <krisk> krisk: meeting adjourned
  258. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Eliot
  259. # [18:30] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  260. # [18:30] <Zakim> -joesteele
  261. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Janina
  262. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Mike
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  264. # [18:30] <Zakim> -glenn
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  266. # [18:30] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  267. # [18:30] <Zakim> -adrianba
  268. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Sam
  269. # [18:30] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aaa]
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  271. # [18:30] <Zakim> -edoyle
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  273. # [18:31] <Zakim> -ddorwin
  274. # [18:31] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  275. # [18:31] <Zakim> Attendees were Aaron_Colwell, [Apple], Mike, paulc, ddorwin, [Microsoft], joesteele, krisk, Janina, Radhika_Roy, glenn, jaymunro, Sam, adrianba, edoyle, Eliot
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  318. # [22:13] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/67934d61a46c1a2d8f1203ed0084f19f63a18af0
  319. # [22:13] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 67934d6 ianh: [cgiowt] (3) Match reality...
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