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  10. # [01:12] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/0776094323b3f44cbf88eb9f023f4b12c3a6b6a9
  11. # [01:12] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 0776094 ianh: [agiowt] (1) Split more WebVTT-specific things into the WebVTT spec. This also makes some normative changes to HTML for handling non-WebVTT cue types, but that shouldn't affect any existing implementations....
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  39. # [08:27] <SteveF> hixie: should I take your lack of response to http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20130311#l-261 as an affirmative?
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  49. # [10:24] <SteveF> stommepoes: any reason why you are looking at a 3 year old working draft? better to look at HTML 5.1 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/obsolete.html#obsolete
  50. # [10:25] <SteveF> stommepoes: and what would you like to see in the way of a definition of obsolete?
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  62. # [11:13] <SteveF> darobin: re the bug you suggested i take over: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Mar/0084.html
  63. # [11:14] <SteveF> darobin: whats the correct way to point to a reference to ARIA (in the spec) when it is used in example code?
  64. # [11:15] <darobin> mmmm, when in an example you don't need a reference
  65. # [11:17] <SteveF> darobin: OK thanks
  66. # [11:18] <SteveF> darobin: just thinking it may be useful to provide a pointer when an attribute not described in HTML, but conforming to use, is being used
  67. # [11:20] <darobin> well, if you want to you can just use a link
  68. # [11:21] <darobin> the example below uses the <a href='arialalala'>foo</a> attribute
  69. # [11:22] <SteveF> darobin: OK thanks, thats what i wanted to know, u da Man!
  70. # [11:22] <darobin> no u da man!
  71. # [11:23] <darobin> reminds me a bar friend I had in NYC
  72. # [11:23] <darobin> our entire conversations were built with "u da maaaan"
  73. # [11:23] <darobin> we were quite close
  74. # [11:25] <SteveF> :-)
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  80. # [12:04] <SteveF> darobin: apart from sampling the cultural delights and French cuisine at disneyland paris I have also been invited to speak at Paris Web in October :-)
  81. # [12:06] <darobin> SteveF: oooooh, that's very cool!
  82. # [12:07] <darobin> you should *definitely* come
  83. # [12:07] <darobin> it's an awesome conf
  84. # [12:07] <darobin> I'll be there too normally
  85. # [12:07] <SteveF> yeah I have committed to speak looking forward to it
  86. # [12:12] <darobin> coolness
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  121. # [17:32] <stommepoes> SteveF: What I was looking at, showed up in teh googles/duckduckgos. I'm surely not the only person running across old documents.
  122. # [17:32] <stommepoes> And yeah wanted to know what the difference was between deprecated and obsolete? (other than, HTML5 seems to use obsolete instead?)
  123. # [17:32] <SteveF> stommepoes: unfortunately not, but thats no excuse ;-)
  124. # [17:34] <stommepoes> should devs look at the draft instead of the "finished" stuff ? (i don't have logs, so no idea what URL I posted earlier, lawlz)
  125. # [17:34] <stommepoes> Hixie sent a URL to WHATWG pages and there I also had trouble telling if, for example, marquee was deprecated and/or obsoleted. Was just in the spec which might just mean "it's in the spec"
  126. # [17:35] <SteveF> stommepoes: deprecated is more like obsolete but conforming throws a warning in the valdiator obsolete throws an error
  127. # [17:36] <SteveF> stommepoes: everything all still works in the browser as far a i know
  128. # [17:36] <stommepoes> I saw two obsoletes, yes. One is but-conforming and throws warnings, the other is not conforming and throws real errors.
  129. # [17:36] <stommepoes> yeah I know, someone on the forums was asking about using marquee
  130. # [17:36] <stommepoes> I said, go fer it
  131. # [17:36] <stommepoes> annoying but works
  132. # [17:36] <SteveF> stommepoes: all your chatz are logged http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/
  133. # [17:37] <stommepoes> ah I'll write that down, thanks
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  135. # [17:37] <SteveF> yes it works
  136. # [17:38] <stommepoes> tomorrow Inclusive design course from jeroen hulscher
  137. # [17:38] <stommepoes> woo
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  160. # [20:14] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/52dfd7f426834eafcf5dd8e33ade44b8113004a6
  161. # [20:14] <gitbot> html/master 52dfd7f Robin Berjon: add fork markers for Silvia
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  168. # [20:34] <Hixie> stommepoes: "obsolete" just means "you shouldn't be using this"
  169. # [20:34] <Hixie> stommepoes: everything in the "obsolete" section of the spec (like the <marquee> element) is obsolete
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  172. # [20:51] <stommepoes> Hixie: thanks. I searched for marquee from the table of contents, so it wasn't clear to me that it was in some obsolete section (now, I'm also not too smart, but I'm also not the only one)
  173. # [20:55] <Hixie> well nothing in the spec actually allows <marquee> to be used anywhere, so it's implicitly non-conforming anyway
  174. # [20:57] <stommepoes> I wanted to point someone to that but only found what's apparently an out-of-date w3c page.
  175. # [20:58] <Hixie> http://whatwg.org/html :-)
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  177. # [21:04] <stommepoes> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/#auto-toc-15 yay
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