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  66. # [12:35] <gitbot> [html] silviapfeiffer pushed 9 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/52dfd7f42683...7700dadd9054
  67. # [12:35] <gitbot> html/master 02bae6c ianh: [giow] (3) document.open() legacy hack for compat...
  68. # [12:35] <gitbot> html/master 82dddac ianh: [e] (0) Fix some typos or copypasta....
  69. # [12:35] <gitbot> html/master 198a99a ianh: [e] (0) Make an internal note. Would be nice to have a way to say this in the prose without it becoming even more confusing than it already is......
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  77. # [13:10] <SteveF> "BTW: Any further "off-list" attempts to intimidate myself regarding the effects of DRM on the open web will be made public and answered appropriately, which would include formal complaints." http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Mar/0088.html
  78. # [13:17] <darobin> yeah I saw that
  79. # [13:17] <darobin> it really made me want to properly intimidate him offlist
  80. # [13:18] <darobin> http://xkcd.com/225/
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  82. # [13:31] <SteveF> :-)
  83. # [14:23] <SteveF> darobin: you are aware that there is a larger/ newer dataset available? http://webdevdata.org/
  84. # [14:23] <SteveF> reading your tag email
  85. # [14:24] <darobin> SteveF: oooh, I hadn't seen that
  86. # [14:24] <darobin> thanks
  87. # [14:24] <SteveF> its same sorta thing, but 35000 from top 50000
  88. # [14:24] <SteveF> collected in dec 12
  89. # [14:25] <jgraham> darobin: That does suggest media company execs + http://xkcd.com/538/ as a solution to DRM :)
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  91. # [14:25] <darobin> SteveF: ah, so it likely makes test runs longer ;) I need to tinker with seeing how an xquery db could be used here
  92. # [14:26] <darobin> jgraham: rofl
  93. # [14:26] <SteveF> yeah it does do that
  94. # [14:37] <gsnedders> darobin: XML *is* the solution!
  95. # [14:38] <darobin> gsnedders: XML is quite lovely, but in this case I'd like to understand the problem :)
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  97. # [14:40] <gsnedders> darobin: My experience with most of these things the syntax is the message is the interesting part, so anything like a re-serialized form is useless.
  98. # [14:45] * darobin parse error at gsnedders word 10
  99. # [14:46] <darobin> gsnedders: are you hopping onto the TAG polygoat discussion or the Leif changes discussion?
  100. # [14:46] * darobin a bit lost today
  101. # [14:46] <darobin> SteveF: your suggestion to go to wiki reminder me of http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/post/34763367921/standards-negotiation-is-the-art-of-sending-people
  102. # [14:47] <jgraham> I lost you at "today" ;)
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  104. # [14:47] <darobin> gsnedders: but in general I agree, a syntax has value in itself and is generally used for a reason, reserialising is rarely useful
  105. # [14:47] <SteveF> LOl
  106. # [14:47] <darobin> jgraham: :p
  107. # [14:48] <darobin> SteveF: that meme actually works better if you know that the original sentence came from fantasai
  108. # [14:48] <SteveF> right
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