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  50. # [12:15] <gitbot> [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/441be15fbbf682a8ad948652e51f4aefd9d4d6a5
  51. # [12:15] <gitbot> html/CR 441be15 steve faulkner: changed h1 advice...
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  53. # [12:16] <Steve> darobin: Cr commit worked now must have been agremlin
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  56. # [12:21] <gitbot> [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/1443d620a3bc433e492e8360a469c15e5b14492f
  57. # [12:21] <gitbot> html/CR 1443d62 steve faulkner: added captcha advice...
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  59. # [12:26] <darobin> Steve: good to hear! btw wanted to ask you something
  60. # [12:26] <darobin> how extensible do you reckon is @role?
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  62. # [12:26] <gitbot> [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/751103a3fcc85fe33813271a618adaca58f37011
  63. # [12:26] <gitbot> html/CR 751103a steve faulkner: added nav advice...
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  65. # [12:26] <darobin> the epub people are asking if they can add their own roles
  66. # [12:26] <darobin> I was thinking that it should be fine to have role='epub-glossary' for instance
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  71. # [12:31] <gitbot> [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/f1ee09efee87dc901c2efe46db4620c7c6dbf141
  72. # [12:31] <gitbot> html/CR f1ee09e steve faulkner: changed figure advice...
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  76. # [12:42] <gitbot> [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/b30cafd39844c4d8130828a2b7f926a25fc2e913
  77. # [12:42] <gitbot> html/CR b30cafd steve faulkner: changed figure advice part 2...
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  80. # [12:51] <Steve> darobin: changes to CR editors draft 2 things a. editorsdraft does not reflect current date, I'm not listed as an editor
  81. # [12:51] <Steve> darobin: thats was chnages to CR added
  82. # [12:52] <darobin> adding yourself is good, but I'm worried about the current date thing
  83. # [12:52] <darobin> that's normally autogenerated
  84. # [12:52] <Steve> ok so have not added how do i go about?
  85. # [12:52] <darobin> added what? :)
  86. # [12:52] * darobin confused
  87. # [12:53] <Steve> not added me to list of editors
  88. # [12:53] <Steve> sorry i am working under cloud of cold
  89. # [12:53] <Steve> not making much sense
  90. # [12:53] <darobin> ah!
  91. # [12:53] <darobin> in the CR branch, find where the other editors are in the boilerplate and add yourself
  92. # [12:54] <darobin> as for the date, it's normal, it's due to the pubstatus
  93. # [12:54] <darobin> when reverting to an ED it'll use the right date
  94. # [12:54] <Steve> OK this is the one am referring to http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/CR/
  95. # [12:55] <Steve> it has changes i commited in ti
  96. # [12:55] <Steve> it
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  99. # [13:04] <gitbot> [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/3b3a2fdd40f2a4a081a57412c56cc6e415907089
  100. # [13:04] <gitbot> html/CR 3b3a2fd stevefaulkner: Update header-w3c-html-core...
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  102. # [13:04] <darobin> yes, that's the one I'm talking about
  103. # [13:04] <darobin> Steve: note that it can take up to ten minutes for changes to show up
  104. # [13:05] <darobin> it's a cronjob
  105. # [13:05] <Steve> yeah i am up with that
  106. # [13:05] <darobin> Steve: btw did you see my rambling about role above?
  107. # [13:05] <Steve> no will read
  108. # [13:05] <darobin> ta
  109. # [13:05] <Steve> like that mail from the disgruntled guy
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  112. # [13:12] <darobin> yeah, that was quite something
  113. # [13:18] <Steve> darobin: re role take a look at http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/role-attribute/#extending-the-collection-of-roles
  114. # [13:21] <darobin> Steve: hmmmm, but that's sort of saying that they would need to use CURIEs and namespaces for their extensions
  115. # [13:21] <darobin> those aren't really pleasant options
  116. # [13:22] <darobin> and it's full of XHTML madness in there :)
  117. # [13:23] <Steve> is it didn't look that closely says authors must define in own vocab, but doesn't demand how that vocab is done right?
  118. # [13:23] <darobin> well it's not clear
  119. # [13:23] <darobin> I *think* that the implied idea is that additional vocabs would be namespaced, using a CURIE
  120. # [13:24] <darobin> and that that URI would be the one used for discovery
  121. # [13:24] <jgraham> Woah, someone still remembers CURIEs?
  122. # [13:24] * jgraham retreats to a safe distance
  123. # [13:24] <darobin> but like all things from the XHTML 2 WG, you need special exegesis powers to understand the magic handshakes
  124. # [13:24] <darobin> Steve: what I'm getting out of this is that, if that's the definition for roles, it really needs an update
  125. # [13:25] <Steve> darobin: you are heding into territory that I neither have understanding or desire to understand
  126. # [13:25] <darobin> also, it's possible to extend the value of roles but you have to come up with your own shit
  127. # [13:25] <darobin> finally, the HTML spec should say something about that
  128. # [13:25] <darobin> Steve: I sympathise
  129. # [13:25] <darobin> I'm just trying to make the world safe for people who need new roles
  130. # [13:25] <Steve> darobin: the html spec could define the role attribute for use in html
  131. # [13:26] <darobin> which is good enough for me
  132. # [13:26] <Steve> thats what ARIA says
  133. # [13:27] <Steve> i think hixie didn't want to do it for some reason i think that didn't want to allow use of role excpet for aria, but best to ask him
  134. # [13:27] <Steve> also hober probably knows stuff about this
  135. # [13:29] <darobin> I'll poke him later
  136. # [13:30] <darobin> oh man, thanks for digging up https://nikolaskallis.com/aboutme/ Steve
  137. # [13:31] <darobin> it takes all of my humanity not to start a trolling campaign on that guy
  138. # [13:31] <Steve> yeah puts it in perspective i think
  139. # [13:31] <darobin> (for those who aren't editors, this guy just sent us all some really nasty hate mail)
  140. # [13:32] <stommepoes> only editors?
  141. # [13:32] <darobin> stommepoes: also TimBL
  142. # [13:32] <stommepoes> what'd he do, look up the names ?
  143. # [13:32] <darobin> from the spec
  144. # [13:32] <stommepoes> sheesh.
  145. # [13:32] <stommepoes> Was there any reason to the hate or just random shit?
  146. # [13:32] <Steve> well i do keep saying we need to improve readability for authors...
  147. # [13:32] <stommepoes> I mean, did the mail have anything to do with HTML actually?
  148. # [13:33] <darobin> anyway, disregarding dear Nikolas's advice I need to put my hands back on my dick and go download some kiddie porn off Tor
  149. # [13:33] <darobin> or, you know, grab something to eat
  150. # [13:33] <jgraham> That site is a parody, right?
  151. # [13:33] <darobin> stommepoes: yeah, he was trying to get <video> working and somehow it didn't work
  152. # [13:33] <darobin> so he read the spec
  153. # [13:33] <stommepoes> It's hard to tell... maybe someone made that site to troll him
  154. # [13:33] <darobin> and the part about reading specs backwards sent him postal
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  156. # [13:33] <gitbot> [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/cbbc4b68a2970015b2ef6cf3b66c71e455530529
  157. # [13:33] <gitbot> html/master cbbc4b6 steve faulkner: fixed incorrect reference to title attribute
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  159. # [13:34] <Steve> no he references that site in his email address
  160. # [13:34] <stommepoes> O_o
  161. # [13:35] <stommepoes> I need a site that looks like that
  162. # [13:35] <darobin> he was probably trying to use <video> to show a picture of himself working out while reading up on military technology
  163. # [13:35] <darobin> it's a good thing we foiled his plan
  164. # [13:35] <darobin> go team!
  165. # [13:35] <stommepoes> ooh he's hip: using strict then letting the browser create body etc tags
  166. # [13:35] <stommepoes> I've only seen hipsters do that
  167. # [13:36] <jgraham> Hmm, distributing wav files?
  168. # [13:37] <jgraham> I hope his music is unpopular. Or his bandwidth uncapped.
  169. # [13:46] * darobin turns the music on
  170. # [13:48] <darobin> well, if it ever loads
  171. # [13:49] <darobin> it seems that FX can't stream play wavs
  172. # [13:49] <darobin> which is weird
  173. # [13:52] <darobin> oh dear me
  174. # [13:52] <darobin> this music is just so creative!
  175. # [13:54] <darobin> I need to bookmark this if I ever need some background sound for a third-rate sports documentary made with no budget
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  177. # [14:13] <stommepoes> You got it working?
  178. # [14:33] <darobin> oh yeah
  179. # [14:33] <darobin> it took ages, but it worked
  180. # [14:33] <darobin> it's an experience worthy of the Gods
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  194. # [17:39] <gitbot> [html] techtoons pushed 1 new commit to html5_canvas: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/ae7b6bcfb0743326efcd85032a70e62278ef645a
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  225. # [21:51] <gitbot> [html] techtoons pushed 1 new commit to html5_canvas: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/d2be562c9fd5e533ad435600261d7f99377384f0
  226. # [21:51] <gitbot> html/html5_canvas d2be562 Jay Munro: Updated IDL with constructor for ImageData...
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