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  12. # [01:12] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/0302d9f83361c54c2978ab10aa50a3b7cbb718b7
  13. # [01:12] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 0302d9f ianh: [e] (0) Fix some typos or copypasta....
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  75. # [14:59] <stommepoes> Opera the only browser getting this right? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Hall_janko_graph.svg interesting...
  76. # [15:01] <ed> stommepoes: guessing it's the leading space in some of the attributes
  77. # [15:06] <stommepoes> Must be Opera ignores them...
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  79. # [16:03] <ed> stommepoes: I think there are some svg editors that also allow leading (and possibly trailing) whitespace in numerical attributes in svg (see: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2004Oct/0001.html)
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  87. # [16:28] <stommepoes> ed: thanks. Turns out someone at wikipedia had already flagged the spaces in the attributes as an error, though likely only because some browsers were obvious about it : )
  88. # [16:29] * ed raised it as an issue in svgwg, at least it should get mentioned in the spec
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  93. # [17:03] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  94. # [17:03] * @trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
  95. # [17:03] <@trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  96. # [17:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  98. # [17:03] <@trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  99. # [17:03] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  100. # [17:03] <@trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  101. # [17:03] <@trackbot> Date: 28 March 2013
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  104. # [17:04] <Zakim> +Clarke
  105. # [17:04] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  106. # [17:04] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  107. # [17:04] <Bin_Hu> Presence+ Bin
  108. # [17:04] <Zakim> +Daniel
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  110. # [17:05] <Zakim> -Bin
  111. # [17:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  112. # [17:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  113. # [17:05] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  114. # [17:05] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  115. # [17:05] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  116. # [17:05] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  117. # [17:05] <Zakim> +Bin
  118. # [17:05] <ArtB> RRSAgent, make minutes
  119. # [17:05] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/28-html-wg-minutes.html ArtB
  120. # [17:06] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  121. # [17:06] <krisk> Zakim, [Microsoft] is krisk
  122. # [17:06] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  123. # [17:06] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  124. # [17:06] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  125. # [17:06] <jaymunro> zakim, [Microsoft] has me
  126. # [17:06] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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  128. # [17:07] * ArtB Bin: FYI, the RRSAgent macro is "Present" not "Presence" thus you should have used: Present+ Bin
  129. # [17:07] <Bin_Hu> Thank you Art
  130. # [17:07] <Bin_Hu> Present+ Bin
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  132. # [17:07] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  133. # [17:07] <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, +1.206.850.aaaa, Clarke, Daniel, adrianba, paulc, Bin, krisk, Cynthia_Shelly, [Microsoft]
  134. # [17:07] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
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  136. # [17:07] * MarkS zakim, code?
  137. # [17:07] * Zakim saw 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org) given for the conference code, MarkS
  138. # [17:08] <krisk> scribe: krisk
  139. # [17:08] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013JanMar/0029.html
  140. # [17:08] <krisk> chair: mjs
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  142. # [17:08] <paulc> zakim, [aaaa] is eliot
  143. # [17:08] <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[aaaa]'
  144. # [17:08] <rubys> zakim, aaaa is eliot
  145. # [17:08] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  146. # [17:09] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  147. # [17:09] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aabb
  148. # [17:09] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  149. # [17:09] <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, eliot, Clarke, Daniel, adrianba, paulc, Bin, krisk, Cynthia_Shelly, [Microsoft], Radhika_Roy, +1.415.595.aabb
  150. # [17:09] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  151. # [17:09] <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aabb is me
  152. # [17:09] <Zakim> +mjs; got it
  153. # [17:09] <Zakim> +Mark_Sadecki
  154. # [17:09] <Zakim> -Mark_Sadecki
  155. # [17:10] <krisk> TOPIC: Face to Face meeting in April
  156. # [17:10] <Zakim> +Mark_Sadecki
  157. # [17:10] <mjs> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html-april-2013/
  158. # [17:10] <krisk> mjs: Please do register if you plan on attending
  159. # [17:11] <krisk> mjs: Reminder - register: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html-april-2013/
  160. # [17:11] * MarkS zakim, mute Mark_Sadecki
  161. # [17:11] * Zakim Mark_Sadecki should now be muted
  162. # [17:11] <krisk> mjs: Meetings have been productive, so please attend if you can make the F2F meeting
  163. # [17:12] <krisk> paulc: April 5th is the end of the registration
  164. # [17:12] <krisk> mjs: any other questions or comments?
  165. # [17:12] <krisk> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
  166. # [17:12] <krisk> subtopic: Testing Task Force
  167. # [17:14] <krisk> krisk: we met as planned on the 3/26
  168. # [17:14] <krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2013Mar/0020.html
  169. # [17:14] <krisk> We have started to classify all the sections in the specification
  170. # [17:15] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  171. # [17:15] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  172. # [17:15] <Zakim> +Plh
  173. # [17:15] <krisk> such that we can identify sections that have no tests and have normative requirements
  174. # [17:15] <krisk> This should help people focus on what areas in the spec need tests
  175. # [17:16] <krisk> We'll document this on the Wiki as well
  176. # [17:16] <krisk> * OK I'm ready for next subtopic
  177. # [17:16] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force
  178. # [17:17] <krisk> mjs: anyone avaible to report?
  179. # [17:17] <Steve> I am around on IRC
  180. # [17:17] <krisk> paulc: The meeting normally occurs today (right before this meeting) and was canceled due to travel and upcoming Holiday
  181. # [17:18] <krisk> mjs: steve feel free to add comments via IRC
  182. # [17:18] <paulc> EME has 39 bugs outstanding. EME met on Tue and discussed outstanding bugs.
  183. # [17:18] <krisk> TOPIC: Media Task Force
  184. # [17:18] <Steve> mjs: i actually have little to say, have been out sick all week
  185. # [17:18] <paulc> MSE bug count is much lower and we expect to publish a WD very soon.
  186. # [17:19] <krisk> paulc: I have an outstanding working to complete the 15 bugs filed on the EME spec
  187. # [17:20] <krisk> mjs: any other comments or questions for the task force reports?
  188. # [17:20] <krisk> mjs: I head none
  189. # [17:20] <krisk> TOPIC: Other Business
  190. # [17:20] <krisk> mjs: We have none in the agenda, though does anyone have any items they would like to discuss?
  191. # [17:21] <krisk> plh: What is the status with the Microdata spec?
  192. # [17:21] <Steve> mjs: status of hgroup
  193. # [17:21] <Steve> in HTML5 CR
  194. # [17:21] <krisk> paulc: The CR transition discovered that a section was missing and no one noticed
  195. # [17:22] <rubys> section that was dropped: http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-microdata-20120329/#other-changes-to-html5
  196. # [17:22] <krisk> paulc: robin was looking for when and why this was removed
  197. # [17:22] <krisk> paulc: the editors are discussing how to fix this missing section and the chairs have asked to bring this to the working group
  198. # [17:23] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  199. # [17:23] <krisk> paulc: sam do you have any more comments?
  200. # [17:23] <krisk> rubys: nope, please see the link
  201. # [17:24] <krisk> mjs: Steve would you like to comment on hgroup?
  202. # [17:24] <krisk> steve: I just wanted to know the status?
  203. # [17:25] <krisk> steve: I had asked this to be removed in Mid-March
  204. # [17:25] <Steve> zakim, [IPCALLER] is me
  205. # [17:25] <Zakim> +Steve; got it
  206. # [17:25] <krisk> mjs: I don't believe anyone has objected and we don't have any tests or implementaions
  207. # [17:25] <krisk> plh: do we need a CFC for this?
  208. # [17:26] <mjs> This is the process: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy-v3.html#cr-remove-early
  209. # [17:26] <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2012Dec/0073.html
  210. # [17:26] <krisk> paulc: We did have a time frame and this ended in Mid-March
  211. # [17:26] * Parts: stommepoes (~stommepoes@public.cloak) (stommepoes)
  212. # [17:26] <krisk> paulc: I believe we have given people time to object and now the chairs can decide to do the removal
  213. # [17:26] <krisk> paulc: Thanks for the reminder
  214. # [17:28] <krisk> steve: I would hope we have a discussion on what changes could be made to hgroup for the 5.1 spec
  215. # [17:28] <krisk> mjs: Any other items to discuss?
  216. # [17:28] <krisk> mjs: I hear none
  217. # [17:28] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  218. # [17:28] <krisk> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeting
  219. # [17:28] <paulc> Paul will be chairing next week.
  220. # [17:29] <Zakim> -Steve
  221. # [17:29] <krisk> mjs: we need one for next week, if you can help please do so
  222. # [17:29] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  223. # [17:29] <Zakim> -Clarke
  224. # [17:29] <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
  225. # [17:29] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/28-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
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  227. # [17:29] <Zakim> -Daniel
  228. # [17:29] <Zakim> -Sam
  229. # [17:29] <Zakim> -Plh
  230. # [17:29] <Zakim> -eliot
  231. # [17:29] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  232. # [17:29] <Zakim> -Bin
  233. # [17:29] <Zakim> -mjs
  234. # [17:29] <Zakim> -Mark_Sadecki
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  238. # [17:32] <Zakim> -paulc
  239. # [17:32] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  240. # [17:32] <Zakim> Attendees were Bin, Sam, +1.206.850.aaaa, Clarke, Daniel, adrianba, paulc, krisk, Cynthia_Shelly, jaymunro, eliot, Radhika_Roy, mjs, Mark_Sadecki, Plh, Steve
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