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  11. # [01:06] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/8a1181c7b94deabd5fe5933d65d75afe62ad9b8a
  12. # [01:06] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 8a1181c ianh: [giow] (1) Set the .relatedTarget attribute on 'click' events for <menuitem> elements (and their master commands) properly....
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  33. # [03:06] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/ab58102581d377d1a644197b64f744992eb64878
  34. # [03:06] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg ab58102 ianh: [e] (0) Fix some typos or copypasta....
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  93. # [12:41] <SteveF> started adding class markers to html spec so important stuff for authors (example: conformance requirements and element semantics, what they 'represent') can be styled
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  102. # [13:54] <stommepoes> @vicent34 12h "@delfinramirez Yeah… Not really… Maybe the problem was that use a heading to make a subtitle was just wrong… You're right." <-- devs getting it (hgroup)
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  109. # [14:43] <SteveF> stommepoes: agree that was part of it
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  115. # [15:44] <tobie> darobin: does the HTLM WG has a document similar to WebApps Pub Status? Can't seem to find something that fits that description.
  116. # [15:44] <darobin> yeah we do...
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  118. # [15:45] <MikeSmith> tobie: plh maintains that page
  119. # [15:45] <MikeSmith> somewhere
  120. # [15:45] <tobie> well, that's helpful. :D
  121. # [15:46] <plh> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Publications
  122. # [15:46] <plh> you're welcome
  123. # [15:46] <darobin> there, that's what I was looking for
  124. # [15:46] <tobie> Amazing
  125. # [15:46] <tobie> ty
  126. # [15:46] <darobin> plh: we should drop the column on the wg page in favour of that
  127. # [15:46] <plh> one day, I'll manage to convince Mike to maintain the page
  128. # [15:46] <tobie> darobin: +1
  129. # [15:46] <plh> darobin: +1
  130. # [15:47] <plh> want to talk to Mike to tell him to maintain his working group page?
  131. # [15:47] <darobin> plh: actually, that data should be extractable automatically...
  132. # [15:47] <darobin> (in an ideal world)
  133. # [15:47] <tobie> Now if all of these pages were in a db
  134. # [15:47] <tobie> ...
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  136. # [15:47] <darobin> tobie: well, you can grab tr.rdf!
  137. # [15:47] <plh> darobin, not all of the data in the wiki page is automatic
  138. # [15:48] <plh> stuff like "Spec is a bit busted at the moment" can't be extracted from a draft :)
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  140. # [15:51] <MikeSmith> I just added links in http://www.w3.org/html/wg/#spec
  141. # [15:51] <MikeSmith> to http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Publications
  142. # [15:51] <tobie> plh: no, but that could easily be added manually to automatically extracted data.
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  184. # [17:57] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
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  190. # [17:59] <SuzanneT> can someone paste the call in info into irc?
  191. # [17:59] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0001.html
  192. # [17:59] <janina> zakim, code?
  193. # [17:59] <paulc> Call in info is at the bottom of the agenda.
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  195. # [17:59] <SuzanneT> thanks much
  196. # [17:59] <rubys1> trackbot, start meeting
  197. # [17:59] * @trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
  198. # [17:59] <@trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  199. # [17:59] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  201. # [17:59] <@trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  202. # [17:59] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  203. # [17:59] <@trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  204. # [17:59] <@trackbot> Date: 04 April 2013
  205. # [17:59] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  206. # [17:59] <hober> Zakim, Apple is me
  207. # [17:59] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  208. # [17:59] <paulc> Thanks, Sam
  209. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Bin
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  211. # [18:00] <Bin> present+ Bin_Hu
  212. # [18:00] <Zakim> + +1.201.785.aacc
  213. # [18:00] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  214. # [18:00] <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.415.230.aaaa, ??P3, eliot, Clarke, [Microsoft], Radhika_Roy, +1.212.512.aabb, hober, Bin, +1.201.785.aacc
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  216. # [18:00] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  217. # [18:00] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  218. # [18:00] * janina marks, I'm on the HTML call
  219. # [18:00] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  220. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  221. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Mark_Sadecki
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  223. # [18:01] <janina> zakim, ??P3 is Janina
  224. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  225. # [18:01] <jaymunro> zakim, [microsoft.a] has me
  226. # [18:01] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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  228. # [18:01] <Zakim> +cabanier
  229. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, aabb is ReimundoGarcia
  230. # [18:01] <Zakim> +ReimundoGarcia; got it
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  232. # [18:01] <SuzanneT> SuzanneT is the 1-201-785.aacc number, i'm new, from Pearson
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  234. # [18:02] * MarkS zakim, mute me
  235. # [18:02] * Zakim Mark_Sadecki should now be muted
  236. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Sam
  237. # [18:02] <paulc> zakim, aacc is SunzanneT
  238. # [18:02] <Zakim> +SunzanneT; got it
  239. # [18:02] <hober> ScribeNick: hober
  240. # [18:02] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  241. # [18:02] <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.415.230.aaaa, Janina, eliot, Clarke, [Microsoft], Radhika_Roy, ReimundoGarcia, hober, Bin, SunzanneT, [IPcaller], [Microsoft.a], Mark_Sadecki (muted),
  242. # [18:02] <Zakim> ... cabanier, Sam
  243. # [18:02] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  244. # [18:02] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has jaymunro
  245. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  246. # [18:02] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
  247. # [18:02] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  248. # [18:03] * adrianba eh?
  249. # [18:03] <Lou> I cannot dial-in so i am only following here
  250. # [18:03] <dio> 415.230 -> dio
  251. # [18:03] <rubys1> zakim, aaaa is dio
  252. # [18:03] <Zakim> +dio; got it
  253. # [18:03] <paulc> zakim, aaaa is dio
  254. # [18:03] <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
  255. # [18:03] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  256. # [18:03] <Zakim> On the phone I see dio, Janina, eliot, Clarke, [Microsoft], Radhika_Roy, ReimundoGarcia, hober, Bin, SunzanneT, [IPcaller], [Microsoft.a], Mark_Sadecki (muted), cabanier, Sam,
  257. # [18:03] <hober> Chair: paulc
  258. # [18:03] <Zakim> ... adrianba
  259. # [18:03] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  260. # [18:03] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has jaymunro
  261. # [18:04] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0001.html
  262. # [18:04] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  263. # [18:04] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  264. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Plh
  265. # [18:04] <hober> Topic: Action items due by Thursday, April 4
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  267. # [18:04] <hober> paulc: there are none
  268. # [18:04] <hober> Topic: New calls this week
  269. # [18:04] <hober> paulc: CfC to publish a heartbeat Media Source Extensions Working Draft
  270. # [18:04] <hober> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Mar/0037.html
  271. # [18:05] <hober> paulc: closes today
  272. # [18:05] <hober> ... CfCs close at midnight Boston time
  273. # [18:05] <hober> ... some support, no objections thus far
  274. # [18:05] <hober> ... assuming it passes, we'll work with the editors to get it published
  275. # [18:05] <hober> Topic: Decisions this week
  276. # [18:06] <hober> paulc: request to drop hgroup from HTML5 raised during last week's meeting
  277. # [18:06] <hober> ... we've issued a decision to drop it from HTML5
  278. # [18:06] <hober> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Apr/0003.html
  279. # [18:06] <hober> ... leaving it up to the editors with regard to how to handle this in 5.1
  280. # [18:06] <hober> See also discussion of hgroup in HTML 5.1: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/0002.html
  281. # [18:07] <hober> ... steve suggested to remove monday
  282. # [18:07] <hober> paulc: asked him to delay due to holiday weekend etc.
  283. # [18:07] <hober> ... i expect a one week delay
  284. # [18:07] <hober> ... if you think hgroup should stay in 5.1, you should respond on that thread
  285. # [18:07] <hober> Topic: info on the HTML WG F2F meeting, Apr 23-24, PayPal, San Jose, CA
  286. # [18:08] <hober> paulc: registration closes tomorrow, Fri Apr 5 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html-april-2013/
  287. # [18:08] <hober> ... 7 or 8 additional registrations since last week, 34 total
  288. # [18:08] <hober> ... two observer requests
  289. # [18:09] <hober> ... at least one task force has asked for a breakout room
  290. # [18:09] <hober> ... talking to the hosts about this
  291. # [18:10] <hober> ... talked on the a11y tf call this morning about adding a11y topics to the draft agenda
  292. # [18:10] <hober> ... planning on closing on that next week
  293. # [18:10] <hober> ... html is meeting tuesday & wednesday, pf is meeting wednesday and thursday
  294. # [18:10] <hober> ... wiki page for the agenda http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics
  295. # [18:11] <hober> ... i encourage people to add their possible topics here
  296. # [18:11] <hober> ... so far, proposed topics include testing, mse, eme
  297. # [18:11] <hober> ... wg runs its meetings in an unconference style
  298. # [18:11] <hober> ... first thing tuesday morning, we'll build our agenda based on this wiki page and on what comes up then
  299. # [18:12] <hober> ... some sessions may be anchored at particular times depending on availability etc.
  300. # [18:12] <hober> Topic: Other Business
  301. # [18:12] <hober> paulc: status of Microdata CR publication http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0183.html
  302. # [18:13] <hober> ... robin started a thread yesterday on microdata integration on public-html
  303. # [18:13] <hober> ... more to do with 5.1 than with the CR document
  304. # [18:13] <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Apr/0007.html
  305. # [18:13] <hober> paulc: plh, during the transition call a missing section was discovered?
  306. # [18:14] <hober> plh: it's more than that, since the call, the editor discovered that the microdata spec might not make sense in its current form. currently investigating
  307. # [18:14] <hober> paulc: the chairs are encouraging the editors to discuss this on public-html
  308. # [18:14] <hober> rubys: it's not clear
  309. # [18:15] <Zakim> -Sam
  310. # [18:15] <hober> paulc: the cr publication of microdata is currently blocked on fixing the missing text
  311. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Sam
  312. # [18:15] <hober> ... took some time to find how/when the text got removed
  313. # [18:15] <hober> ... the editors are now trying to figure out how to handle this
  314. # [18:16] <hober> paulc: Status of HTML WG charter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0097.html
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  316. # [18:16] <hober> ... under AC review a couple of weeks ago. plh, anything to report?
  317. # [18:16] <hober> plh: made some progress yesterday
  318. # [18:16] <hober> ... one formal objection received, we are trying to resolve it
  319. # [18:16] <hober> ... this will take time; we don't expect the charter to be approved in the next 3 weeks
  320. # [18:17] <hober> ... we will likely come back to the AC with some new wording which will need further review
  321. # [18:17] <hober> paulc: i don't think this rechartering has any impact on, say, our f2f or other work
  322. # [18:17] <hober> plh: correct
  323. # [18:17] <hober> ... shouldn't prevent the ongoing work of the wg
  324. # [18:18] <hober> paulc: any other other business?
  325. # [18:18] <hober> Topic: Chair and scribe for next meeting
  326. # [18:18] <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
  327. # [18:18] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
  328. # [18:18] <hober> paulc: it's sam's turn to chair next week
  329. # [18:19] <hober> ... i am traveling next week and will likely miss the meeting
  330. # [18:19] <hober> ... no volunteers to scribe for sam next week
  331. # [18:19] <hober> Topic: Adjournment
  332. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Sam
  333. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Plh
  334. # [18:19] <Zakim> -adrianba
  335. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Clarke
  336. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
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  338. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Janina
  339. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Bin
  340. # [18:19] <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
  341. # [18:19] <Zakim> -ReimundoGarcia
  342. # [18:19] <Zakim> -cabanier
  343. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Mark_Sadecki
  344. # [18:19] <Zakim> -SunzanneT
  345. # [18:19] <Zakim> -eliot
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  352. # [18:19] <hober> rrsagent, generate minutes
  353. # [18:19] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-html-wg-minutes.html hober
  354. # [18:20] <Zakim> -hober
  355. # [18:20] <Zakim> -dio
  356. # [18:21] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  357. # [18:21] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
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  362. # [18:21] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-html-wg-minutes.html hober
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