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  15. # [02:47] <gitbot> [html] silviapfeiffer pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/351a61bda3b0...2ff927882a14
  16. # [02:47] <gitbot> html/master 91e7680 ianh: [e] (0) Fix some typos or copypasta....
  17. # [02:47] <gitbot> html/master 58ceb73 ianh: [e] (0) Fix some cross-reference issues....
  18. # [02:47] <gitbot> html/master d824a34 ianh: [] (0) WebIDL correctness...
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  24. # [03:48] <gitbot> [html] silviapfeiffer pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/2ff927882a14...1aa2c4d39030
  25. # [03:48] <gitbot> html/master 92a5ab6 ianh: [ac] (0) Restrict <main> from having <aside>, <footer>, <header>, or <nav> ancestors...
  26. # [03:48] <gitbot> html/master 1aa2c4d ianh: [e] (0) Fix example....
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  104. # [17:58] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
  105. # [17:59] <paulc> I wonder if Zakim is here?
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  107. # [18:00] <Bin> it needs to start the meeting
  108. # [18:00] <krisk> * invited
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  110. # [18:00] <Bin> trackbot, start meeting
  111. # [18:00] * @trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
  112. # [18:00] <@trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  113. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  114. # [18:00] <janina> zakim, who's here?
  115. # [18:00] <Zakim> sorry, janina, I don't know what conference this is
  116. # [18:00] <@trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  117. # [18:00] <@trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  118. # [18:00] <@trackbot> Date: 18 April 2013
  119. # [18:00] <Zakim> On IRC I see paulc, janina, Clarke, Bin, dio, krisk, SteveF, Steve, glenn, tobie, plh, MarkS, davidb, ArtB, nonge, slightlyoff, cabanier, karl, st, [Beta], logbot, Lachy,
  120. # [18:00] <Zakim> ... IanPouncey, yoav, Hixie, jgraham, heath, Dashiva, Philip, heycam|away
  121. # [18:00] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
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  123. # [18:00] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
  124. # [18:00] <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.415.230.aaaa, Bin_Hu (muted), ??P2, Clarke, [Microsoft], +1.818.406.aabb
  125. # [18:01] <janina> zakim, ??P2 is Janina
  126. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  127. # [18:01] <Zakim> + +1.626.379.aacc
  128. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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  130. # [18:01] <Zakim> +ReimundoGarcia
  131. # [18:01] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft.a is krisk
  132. # [18:01] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  133. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  134. # [18:01] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
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  136. # [18:01] <krisk> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0006.html
  137. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  138. # [18:02] <krisk> scribe: krisk
  139. # [18:02] <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft.a has me
  140. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
  141. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  142. # [18:02] <hober> Zakim, Apple is me
  143. # [18:02] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  144. # [18:03] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  145. # [18:03] <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.415.230.aaaa, Bin_Hu (muted), Janina, Clarke, [Microsoft], +1.818.406.aabb, +1.626.379.aacc, krisk, ReimundoGarcia, [Microsoft.a], hober
  146. # [18:03] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  147. # [18:03] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has Eliot
  148. # [18:04] <paulc> zakim, aacc is danielaustin
  149. # [18:04] <Zakim> +danielaustin; got it
  150. # [18:04] <dio> 415 -> dio
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  154. # [18:05] <krisk> zakim, dio is 1.415.230.aaaa
  155. # [18:05] <Zakim> sorry, krisk, I do not recognize a party named 'dio'
  156. # [18:05] * CyrilR-A is now known as CyrilRa
  157. # [18:06] <krisk> zakim, 1.415.230.aaaa is dio
  158. # [18:06] <Zakim> sorry, krisk, I do not recognize a party named '1.415.230.aaaa'
  159. # [18:06] <krisk> zakim, +1.415.230.aaaa is dio
  160. # [18:06] <Zakim> +dio; got it
  161. # [18:06] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  162. # [18:06] <Zakim> On the phone I see dio, Bin_Hu (muted), Janina, Clarke, [Microsoft], +1.818.406.aabb, danielaustin, krisk, ReimundoGarcia, [Microsoft.a], hober
  163. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  164. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has Eliot
  165. # [18:06] <CyrilRa> 818 is Cyril Rickelton-Abdi from Turner (818 406)
  166. # [18:07] <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft.a has Erika
  167. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Erika; got it
  168. # [18:07] <paulc> zakim, aaaa is CyrilRa
  169. # [18:07] <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
  170. # [18:07] <krisk> chair: paulc
  171. # [18:07] <paulc> zakim, aabb is CyrilRa
  172. # [18:07] <Zakim> +CyrilRa; got it
  173. # [18:08] <krisk> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, April 11
  174. # [18:08] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  175. # [18:08] <Zakim> On the phone I see dio, Bin_Hu (muted), Janina, Clarke, [Microsoft], CyrilRa, danielaustin, krisk, ReimundoGarcia, [Microsoft.a], hober
  176. # [18:08] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  177. # [18:08] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has Erika
  178. # [18:08] <paulc> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013AprJun/0006.html
  179. # [18:08] <krisk> TOPIC: Upcoming F2F in San Jose
  180. # [18:09] <krisk> see http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda
  181. # [18:09] <paulc> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda
  182. # [18:09] <krisk> paulc: Let's talk about this first
  183. # [18:09] <krisk> paulc: HTML WG meets on tuesday/wendsday
  184. # [18:10] <krisk> danielaustin: parking is tight - public transportation recommended
  185. # [18:10] <krisk> danielaustin: reception will be on Wendday evening
  186. # [18:11] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  187. # [18:11] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
  188. # [18:11] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  189. # [18:11] <krisk> danielaustin: Reception will be from 4->6pm at paypay at the meeting location (April 24th)
  190. # [18:11] <Zakim> +glenn
  191. # [18:12] <krisk> paulc: do we have meeting rooms for the groups
  192. # [18:12] <krisk> danielaustin: Yes I do have this information
  193. # [18:12] <krisk> paulc: can you update the wiki with this information?
  194. # [18:12] <paulc> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda#Logistics
  195. # [18:12] <krisk> danielaustin: sure
  196. # [18:13] <krisk> paulc: any logistical questions about the F2F?
  197. # [18:13] <krisk> paulc: other important part is potential topics
  198. # [18:13] <paulc> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics
  199. # [18:13] <krisk> paulc: please add them to the wiki
  200. # [18:13] <krisk> paulc: here is the list (no specific order)
  201. # [18:14] <krisk> paulc: polygot spec - normative or not?
  202. # [18:14] <krisk> paulc: CR status
  203. # [18:14] <krisk> paulc: HTML Test Suite coverage and status
  204. # [18:15] <krisk> paulc: getting Microdata to CR
  205. # [18:15] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  206. # [18:15] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  207. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Plh
  208. # [18:15] <krisk> paulc: do others on the call have other items
  209. # [18:15] * plh mwaves
  210. # [18:16] <krisk> krisk: I'd like to propose talking about how github and getting the the HTML5 spec to Rec
  211. # [18:17] <krisk> danielaustin: can we talk about web performance issues related to HTML5?
  212. # [18:17] <krisk> paulc: sure, added
  213. # [18:18] <plh> q+ to ask about the reception
  214. # [18:18] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  215. # [18:18] <krisk> paulc: janina are you on the phone?
  216. # [18:18] <krisk> janina: yes
  217. # [18:19] <krisk> paulc: should we discuss longdesc?
  218. # [18:19] <krisk> janina: we are working on bugs, maybe
  219. # [18:19] <krisk> paulc: let's add moving image description to last call
  220. # [18:20] <krisk> paulc: hober any other agenda items for extension specs?
  221. # [18:20] <krisk> hober: they are progressing, not sure if the picture folks will be attending
  222. # [18:20] * plh "HTML5 Image Description Extension"
  223. # [18:21] <krisk> paulc: can you check to see if they are attending and if so add a specific agenda item
  224. # [18:21] <krisk> paulc: plh do you have items you want to discuss
  225. # [18:21] <krisk> plh: very nice to have the reception - just want to make sure the WG are aware of this reception
  226. # [18:24] <krisk> paulc: media task force would like to meet on the 23rd and not the 24th
  227. # [18:24] <krisk> janina: This would be fine for the ally items as well which relate to media
  228. # [18:24] <krisk> paulc: we have a start on the agenda, please feel free to add additional items
  229. # [18:25] <krisk> bin: we should identify areas in the spec that have missing coverage
  230. # [18:25] <krisk> bin: kris in the task for has been doing this but it's going quite slow
  231. # [18:26] <krisk> plh: darobin should be able to help with this agenda item
  232. # [18:27] <krisk> paulc: I think the first TOPIC has been covered, any other comments?
  233. # [18:27] <krisk> TOPIC: Discussion topic: progress towards CR for HTML 5.0
  234. # [18:27] <krisk> paulc: I was traveling and don't have any information on this topic
  235. # [18:28] <krisk> plh: mjs wanted to go overall the items (bugs, test suite, etc...)
  236. # [18:28] <krisk> plh: mjs wants to make sure this is part of the agenda
  237. # [18:29] <krisk> plh: Which also should include features that are at risk and ones that are no longer at risk
  238. # [18:30] <krisk> paulc: The chairs talked on Monday about declaring parts of the spec that are interoperable and have enough tests
  239. # [18:31] <krisk> plh: We might want to discuss future plans for re-integrating the HTML5 Image Description Extension
  240. # [18:32] <krisk> paulc: and other CR items to discuss at the F2F?
  241. # [18:33] <krisk> paulc: I added a general agenda item called 'extenstion spec status'
  242. # [18:33] <krisk> paulc: hober this is where you can add items
  243. # [18:33] <krisk> TOPIC: Other business
  244. # [18:33] <krisk> MSE working draft specification was published on tuesday
  245. # [18:34] <krisk> paulc: any other business to disucss?
  246. # [18:34] <paulc> MSE WD was published on Tue: http://www.w3.org/News/2013#entry-9788
  247. # [18:35] <krisk> paulc: Will the testing task force meet the following week?
  248. # [18:35] <krisk> krisk: yes
  249. # [18:35] <krisk> paulc: the WG meeting most likely will not meet
  250. # [18:35] <krisk> paulc: all three chairs will be attending and will make a call on meeting on May 2nd
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  252. # [18:35] <Zakim> -glenn
  253. # [18:35] <Zakim> -Clarke
  254. # [18:35] <Zakim> -hober
  255. # [18:35] <Zakim> -danielaustin
  256. # [18:36] <Zakim> -Janina
  257. # [18:36] <krisk> paulc: Adjournment
  258. # [18:36] <Zakim> -CyrilRa
  259. # [18:36] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  260. # [18:36] <Zakim> -adrianba
  261. # [18:36] <Zakim> -ReimundoGarcia
  262. # [18:36] <Zakim> -Bin_Hu
  263. # [18:36] <Zakim> -Plh
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  265. # [18:36] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
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  268. # [18:36] <krisk> krisk: no objections
  269. # [18:36] <krisk> RRSAgent, make logs public
  270. # [18:36] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, krisk
  271. # [18:37] <krisk> RRSAgent, generate minutes
  272. # [18:37] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/04/18-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
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