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  10. # [01:09] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/7d4f5eaa2d4759a9755ef6e0b4ca3c86bc259018
  11. # [01:09] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 7d4f5ea ianh: [giow] (3) Make clear that .crossOrigin doesn't return '' for the Anonymous state....
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  17. # [02:09] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/dcfad5363cdf7e89bd2885d4502c0224ca459b04
  18. # [02:09] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg dcfad53 ianh: [giow] (3) Oops, looks like kind=metadata tracks have been technically supposed to render this whole time...
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  84. # [12:46] <darobin> SteveF: should https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13103 be on the critical path for CR?
  85. # [12:46] <darobin> (you mentioned you'd figure out if it ought to be)
  86. # [12:50] <SteveF> darobin: right i discussed with leonie and we couldn't figure out what exactly was going onneed to do some more testing, but think it can be moved to 5.1
  87. # [12:51] <darobin> ok, thanks!
  88. # [12:51] <darobin> in general, irrespective of the timeline, it would be good to understand the problem
  89. # [12:53] <SteveF> darobin: yes am working on it...
  90. # [12:53] <darobin> great :)
  91. # [13:17] <SteveF> darobin: the issue she described is that the spacing, new lines etc are not correctly conveyed so for code that such stuff is important she can't get it from <pre> code</pre>
  92. # [13:21] <darobin> SteveF: but that's just not true
  93. # [13:22] <SteveF> darobin: tis for her when using a screen reader apparently
  94. # [13:23] <SteveF> darobin: but may be due to differnces in browsers and diffs in AT that is why I am checking
  95. # [13:23] <SteveF> with various
  96. # [13:24] <darobin> see http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/?saved=2303
  97. # [13:24] <darobin> that's not a spec problem then, that's a browser bug
  98. # [13:25] <darobin> the right thing to do is to fix the browser bug in that specific browser, not to introduce a new feature that all have to support but that duplicates existing functionality
  99. # [13:25] <darobin> any chance this is IE? IE has had some problems with <pre>, at least in the past
  100. # [13:26] <darobin> e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/451486/pre-tag-loses-line-breaks-when-setting-innerhtml-in-ie
  101. # [13:33] <SteveF> darobin: agrre, besides I have just checked with NVDA and latest Firefox and IE, both honour stuff, NVDA announces line feeds and spaces so unsure what issue is will circle back with leonie
  102. # [13:42] <darobin> SteveF: great, thanks a lot
  103. # [13:50] <darobin> SteveF: I was thinking we should remove the [HTML]: from the bug-assist configuration, otherwise people do things like this https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22297
  104. # [13:53] <darobin> SteveF: do you have an opinion on whether this should be in ARIA or HTML? https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22220
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  107. # [14:29] <gitbot> [html-tools] darobin pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html-tools/commit/b67cf810cce0b0fcf36bcb63f52e45142052e6c5
  108. # [14:29] <gitbot> html-tools/master b67cf81 Robin Berjon: remove subject from bug assist, too much noise
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  116. # [15:51] <SteveF> darobin: re 'ARIA or HTML' i think HTML but am unclear about it, where is this stuff specced for html? is it or where is it specced for svg?
  117. # [15:53] <darobin> SVG specs pretty much all of its own stuff (for now) but it's not necessarily a model
  118. # [15:58] <SteveF> Ok so i suggest that it be done in HTML and then can be referenced by others
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  142. # [21:09] <gitbot> [html] rubys pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/bc54f5b3ccf6bff91fe9164fd615b089026b6912
  143. # [21:09] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg bc54f5b ianh: [e] (0) Move away from the term 'RCDATA' in the syntax section. (I haven't changed the parser section, so that people who have implemented it don't get really confused.)...
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