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  125. # [17:49] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  126. # [17:49] <Zakim> +Dio
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  132. # [17:54] <Zakim> +??P1
  133. # [17:54] <Zakim> -??P1
  134. # [17:54] <Zakim> +??P1
  135. # [17:54] <glenn> zakim, ??p1 is me
  136. # [17:54] <Zakim> +glenn; got it
  137. # [17:55] <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
  138. # [17:55] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
  139. # [17:55] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  140. # [17:55] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  141. # [17:55] <Zakim> +pladd
  142. # [17:55] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  143. # [17:55] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  144. # [17:55] <trackbot> Date: 01 August 2013
  145. # [17:55] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  146. # [17:55] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  147. # [17:55] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
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  149. # [17:56] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  150. # [17:56] <Zakim> +??P9
  151. # [17:56] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  152. # [17:56] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  153. # [17:57] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013JulSep/0013.html
  154. # [17:57] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  155. # [17:57] <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, ??P9
  156. # [17:57] <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, pladd, paulc, dio, chaals, jaymunro, sgalineau, ddorwin, jeffh, jernoble, hober, tinkster, st2, glenn, Hixie, yoav, MikeSmith, Philip, paul___irish, jmb,
  157. # [17:57] <Zakim> ... gavin, karl, jgraham, Jedi, gsnedders, decadance, NeatBasis, tobie
  158. # [17:57] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
  159. # [17:57] <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, ??P9
  160. # [17:57] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  161. # [17:57] <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, ??P9
  162. # [17:57] <Zakim> + +1.818.954.aaaa
  163. # [17:58] <jernoble> Zakim, aaaa is me
  164. # [17:58] <Zakim> +jernoble; got it
  165. # [17:58] <janina> zakim, ??P9 is me
  166. # [17:58] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  167. # [17:58] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  168. # [17:58] <Zakim> +hober
  169. # [17:58] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
  170. # [17:58] <jernoble> whoops, aaaa is not me.
  171. # [17:58] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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  173. # [17:58] <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aabb
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  175. # [17:59] <Zakim> +Daniel
  176. # [17:59] <jaymunro> scribe: jaymunro
  177. # [17:59] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  178. # [17:59] <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, janina, jernoble, [Microsoft], hober, +1.206.850.aabb, Daniel
  179. # [17:59] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  180. # [18:00] <Zakim> -jernoble
  181. # [18:00] <Zakim> +jernoble
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  183. # [18:00] <jaymunro> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, August 1
  184. # [18:01] <jaymunro> topic: things closing last week: none
  185. # [18:01] * hober whoever is incorrectly identified as jernoble, you can tell zakim "Zakim, jernoble is me" to fix it
  186. # [18:01] <Zakim> + +1.303.661.aacc
  187. # [18:01] <jaymunro> a quite week.
  188. # [18:01] <paulc> s/quite/quiet/
  189. # [18:01] <Clarke> zakim, aacc is me
  190. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
  191. # [18:01] <glenn> zakim, jernoble is hober
  192. # [18:01] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  193. # [18:01] <jaymunro> no items for first action.
  194. # [18:01] <glenn> zakim, who's on the phone?
  195. # [18:01] <Zakim> On the phone I see Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, janina, [Microsoft], hober, +1.206.850.aabb, Daniel, hober.a, Clarke
  196. # [18:01] <jaymunro> no items for second item.
  197. # [18:01] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  198. # [18:02] <jaymunro> Topic: Items closed last week: none
  199. # [18:02] <jaymunro> topic: items closing this week:
  200. # [18:02] <jaymunro> none
  201. # [18:03] <Zakim> -hober.a
  202. # [18:03] <Zakim> +CyrilRa
  203. # [18:03] <jaymunro> topic:New calls this week:
  204. # [18:03] <jaymunro> none
  205. # [18:03] <jaymunro> topic: decisions this week: none
  206. # [18:03] <jaymunro> Task force reports, Krisk is out this week.
  207. # [18:03] <jaymunro> topic: accessiblity task force. just met
  208. # [18:04] <jaymunro> main item, a lot of status updates , relating to alt
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  210. # [18:04] <jaymunro> refining, making sure everything is correct and solid. Not expecting to change.
  211. # [18:04] <jaymunro> talked about all the permutations and approaches
  212. # [18:04] <jaymunro> talked about testing, decision to start a new sub team
  213. # [18:05] <jaymunro> getting longdesc going.
  214. # [18:05] <jaymunro> several people spoke up on what platforms they need testing with.
  215. # [18:05] <jaymunro> talked about need to start media sub team.
  216. # [18:06] <jaymunro> should start sometime in August.
  217. # [18:06] <jaymunro> concerns about media controls. need to be keyboard accessible, need to get specs available in the right places.
  218. # [18:07] <jaymunro> Charles appologized for work statement and decision policy. bad network access... Expects resolution soon.
  219. # [18:07] <jaymunro> will be forwarding email with 2014
  220. # [18:07] <jaymunro> Paul should expect mail next week
  221. # [18:08] <jaymunro> Paul: lastweek we heard on comments that chairs pushed back might be bugs. Will they be presented back to the wg.
  222. # [18:09] <jaymunro> Janina: which issues need bugs, tests, drop, etc... Email expected this afternoon.
  223. # [18:10] <jaymunro> Team contact Marc Sedeki - team contact - was handling the comments on the exit criteria content.
  224. # [18:10] <jaymunro> Topic: media task force
  225. # [18:10] <paulc> CfC to take MSE Last Call: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Jul/0018.html
  226. # [18:10] <jaymunro> Pauk: currently a cfc going on inside the task force to take mse to last call
  227. # [18:11] <jaymunro> that closes at the end of the week. If closes successfully, Paul will issue a WG call for concensus.
  228. # [18:11] <jaymunro> task force has dealt with pre-LC bugs
  229. # [18:11] <jaymunro> except for a couple that were presented after closed.
  230. # [18:11] <jaymunro> Encrypted media has about 15 bugs, some very hard.
  231. # [18:12] <jaymunro> Since MSE is making more progress, changing schedule and do two or three EME calls
  232. # [18:12] <jaymunro> Paul: Janina, expect last call from Aug 15 - end of Sept for EME
  233. # [18:12] <jaymunro> last call
  234. # [18:13] <jaymunro> Topic: Other business
  235. # [18:13] <jaymunro> Topic: WG Decision to publish two revised heartbeat Candidate Recommendations
  236. # [18:13] <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jul/0057.html
  237. # [18:13] <jaymunro> Status: Publication is expect on Thu Aug 1.
  238. # [18:14] <jaymunro> publications were expected today, but glitch. Now Canvas spec holding up until next week.
  239. # [18:14] <jaymunro> Both HTML and Canvas will be done next week
  240. # [18:14] <jaymunro> Topic: Responsive images meet-up in Paris
  241. # [18:14] <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jul/0055.html
  242. # [18:14] <jaymunro> During CSS meeting, will be meetup to discuss responsive images spec.
  243. # [18:15] <jaymunro> Topic: [CSSWG][css-counter-styles] Last Call WD of CSS Counter Styles
  244. # [18:15] <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jul/0047.html
  245. # [18:15] <jaymunro> Heads-up: Last Call for css3-cascade
  246. # [18:15] <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jul/0046.html
  247. # [18:15] <jaymunro> last calls on these, make comments on these. If anything in CSS spec that breaks HTML spec, discuss in WG to get feedback
  248. # [18:15] <jaymunro> Topic: Updated alt text advice in HTML spec
  249. # [18:15] <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jul/0037.html
  250. # [18:15] <jaymunro> Status: If these items are all accepted then we may be able to terminate work on “HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives”:
  251. # [18:15] <jaymunro> http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/
  252. # [18:16] <jaymunro> The task force has been working on taking content with bugs and working them into HTML5 spec.
  253. # [18:16] <jaymunro> If concensus on this, the alt alternatives doc could go away
  254. # [18:17] <jaymunro> If the separate topic has separate normative text. COmbining would be better expressed in one place.
  255. # [18:17] <jaymunro> Topic: Registration open for HTML WG F2F meeting, Shenzen, China, Nov 14-15 2013
  256. # [18:17] <jaymunro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jul/0073.html
  257. # [18:17] <jaymunro> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html-nov-2013/
  258. # [18:18] <jaymunro> Three 1/2 months away. Chairs putting out survey to see if members want to meet for the F2F. Keeping item on agenda to see if people responding.
  259. # [18:19] <Zakim> -Dio
  260. # [18:19] <jaymunro> Topic: any other business? None
  261. # [18:19] <jaymunro> Volunteer scribe? None
  262. # [18:19] <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
  263. # [18:19] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/01-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
  264. # [18:20] <Zakim> +Dio
  265. # [18:20] * Parts: st2 (~Suzanne.Taylor@public.cloak) (st2)
  266. # [18:20] <Zakim> -pladd
  267. # [18:20] <Zakim> -hober
  268. # [18:20] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  269. # [18:20] <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn, paulc, janina, [Microsoft], +1.206.850.aabb, Daniel, Clarke, CyrilRa, Dio
  270. # [18:20] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  271. # [18:20] <Zakim> -Clarke
  272. # [18:20] <Zakim> -Daniel
  273. # [18:20] <Zakim> -janina
  274. # [18:20] <Zakim> -glenn
  275. # [18:20] <Zakim> -CyrilRa
  276. # [18:20] <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
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  278. # [18:20] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/01-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
  279. # [18:20] <Zakim> - +1.206.850.aabb
  280. # [18:20] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  281. # [18:20] <Zakim> -Dio
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  283. # [18:21] <Zakim> -paulc
  284. # [18:21] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  285. # [18:21] <Zakim> Attendees were Dio, glenn, pladd, paulc, +1.818.954.aaaa, janina, hober, jaymunro, +1.206.850.aabb, Daniel, +1.303.661.aacc, Clarke, CyrilRa
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  338. # [22:38] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 4 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/271f23811081...29893c8b8d5f
  339. # [22:38] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 58ccf94 ianh: [giow] (3) Try to clean up the incumbent script situation....
  340. # [22:38] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg e058c60 ianh: [giow] (3) Make <form><template><input> not result in the <input> being in the <form>....
  341. # [22:38] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg ff697dc ianh: [e] (0) Move some steps around to allow for some refactoring in the parser (this diff should have no effect on normative requirements in practice)...
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  354. # [23:38] <gitbot> [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/29893c8b8d5f...86331ae4d9d4
  355. # [23:38] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 3727a45 ianh: [e] (0) Cleanup...
  356. # [23:38] <gitbot> html/feature/whatwg 86331ae ianh: [e] (0) Mark parts of the spec that are affected by CSS. This adds a new topic, 'CSS', that you can subscribe to. I've automatically subscribed anyone who had previously subscribed to the 'Rendering' topic....
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