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  34. # [04:44] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] silviapfeiffer pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/026452845c5e83860c70b82cddba1bc9e94da7ad
  35. # [04:44] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 0264528 Silvia Pfeiffer: Clarify that all non-rendered tracks are of kind "metadata"....
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  39. # [05:04] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 555dadb Silvia Pfeiffer: (editorial) Fix a spec parsing bug that had fenced off some of transfer CanvasProxy.
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  43. # [05:11] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] silviapfeiffer pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/e143a8533207f5ba89ce2a64aada3fc9a3999015
  44. # [05:11] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master e143a85 Silvia Pfeiffer: (editorial) Add a reference to the Web Messaging spec for transferMessagePort.
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  51. # [06:11] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] silviapfeiffer pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/6c5c5925f6a1833707defc1cbd32c87f8601f28d
  52. # [06:11] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 6c5c592 Silvia Pfeiffer: (editorial) Cleaned up validity of the spec file:...
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  56. # [06:17] <gitbot> [html-tools] silviapfeiffer pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html-tools/commit/c3322f62a0cbf63a274d9258d996efce4647d0b0
  57. # [06:17] <gitbot> html-tools/master c3322f6 Silvia Pfeiffer: Adding formatting for .critical.
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  102. # [14:57] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 210ea08 steve faulkner: make focus move to dialog...
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  125. # [17:57] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  128. # [17:57] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-html-wg-irc
  129. # [17:57] <@trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  130. # [17:58] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  132. # [17:58] <@trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  133. # [17:58] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
  134. # [17:58] <@trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  135. # [17:58] <@trackbot> Date: 26 September 2013
  136. # [17:58] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  137. # [17:58] <Zakim> +Sam
  138. # [17:58] <Zakim> +pladd
  139. # [18:00] <Zakim> +??P0
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  142. # [18:00] <Zakim> +MarkS
  143. # [18:00] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013JulSep/0027.html
  144. # [18:00] <janina> zakim, who's here?
  145. # [18:00] <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, pladd, ??P0, MarkS
  146. # [18:00] <Zakim> On IRC I see krisk_, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, pladd, rubys, jernoble, tinkster, SuzanneT, davidb, mkelly, gbabula, plh, darobin, SteveF, Lachy, Dashiva, [Beta], yoav, tH,
  147. # [18:00] <Zakim> ... gsnedders, MarkS, ed, gavin_, hober, arronei, heath, krijnh, NeatBasis_
  148. # [18:00] <janina> zakim, ??P0 is me
  149. # [18:00] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  150. # [18:01] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  151. # [18:01] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  152. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Plh
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  154. # [18:02] <Zakim> + +1.971.998.aaaa
  155. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  156. # [18:02] <krisk_> Zakim, [Microsoft] is krisk
  157. # [18:02] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  158. # [18:03] <krisk_> chair: rubys
  159. # [18:03] <krisk_> scribe: krisk
  160. # [18:04] <krisk_> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, September 26
  161. # [18:04] <krisk_> none
  162. # [18:04] <krisk_> TOPIC: Items Closing This Week
  163. # [18:04] <krisk_> Call for Microdata editor(s) closes on Sep 27
  164. # [18:04] <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Aug/0059.html
  165. # [18:05] <krisk_> We have no editor, so if we don't get an editor this will be published as a note
  166. # [18:05] <krisk_> TOPIC: New Calls this week
  167. # [18:05] <krisk_> CfC: to publish a “Encrypted Media Extensions" heartbeat Working Draft
  168. # [18:05] <krisk_> Closes on tuesday
  169. # [18:05] <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0088.html
  170. # [18:05] <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0083.html
  171. # [18:06] <krisk_> rubys: feedback has most been that this is not in scope, but it is in scope for the HTML WG
  172. # [18:06] <krisk_> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
  173. # [18:06] <krisk_> SUBTOPIC: Testing Task Force
  174. # [18:06] <krisk_> We met as planned on Tuesday Sept 24th
  175. # [18:07] <krisk_> Most of the discussion was on Canvas
  176. # [18:07] <krisk_> See http://dev.w3.org/html5/misc/canvas-implementation.html
  177. # [18:08] <plh> q+
  178. # [18:08] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  179. # [18:08] <krisk_> Now it seems that 6. Building paths 'ellipse() doesn't have actual implementations and should be marked as 'at risk'
  180. # [18:09] * plh can wait for Kris to finish his report btw
  181. # [18:09] <krisk_> 4. Line Styles setLineDash, getLineDash, lineDashOffset
  182. # [18:09] <krisk_> We have no tests - but Microsoft will submit some soon
  183. # [18:10] <krisk_> Since IE11 added support for these Canvas features
  184. # [18:10] <krisk_> Feedback is that if you actually go to http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/2dcontext/
  185. # [18:10] <krisk_> The canvas tests are not working
  186. # [18:11] <krisk_> Which I *think* Robin has a bug to fix?
  187. # [18:11] <rubys> ack next
  188. # [18:11] * Zakim sees plh at the head of the speaker queue
  189. # [18:11] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  190. # [18:14] <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0013.html
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  192. # [18:14] <krisk_> Plh: Can the TTF look to see if this is correct?
  193. # [18:14] <krisk_> ..and if so update the report so that it is acurate
  194. # [18:15] <krisk_> s/acurate/accurate/
  195. # [18:15] <rubys> From Rik: "In answer to your question, I believe Jay generated that table by running the canvas test suite. Since that suite doesn't test this new feature, it wasn't flagged."
  196. # [18:16] <krisk_> rubys: Rik has agree to update that section to be red and not green
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  198. # [18:17] <MarkS> http://www.rgraph.net/blog/2013/january/html5-canvas-ellipse.html
  199. # [18:17] <krisk_> rubys can you follow up on ellipse() having implementations?
  200. # [18:18] <plh> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures
  201. # [18:18] <Zakim> -krisk
  202. # [18:19] <krisk_> * I got disconnected hang on please :)
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  204. # [18:19] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  205. # [18:19] <plh> Sam: Rik is working with Rich about an update to the Canvas2D draft
  206. # [18:20] <krisk_> TOPIC: Accessibility Task Force
  207. # [18:20] <krisk_> jania: Rich is away and we can't deliver on the date and move to Nov?
  208. # [18:22] <krisk_> rubys: I'd like to see credible plans for implementations
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  210. # [18:23] <krisk_> rubys: If their is not credible plans then don't focus on these items
  211. # [18:24] <krisk_> rubys: We have multiple implentations for Canvas
  212. # [18:24] <krisk_> rubys: Though some items are at Risk (Path Objects) and don't have implementations
  213. # [18:25] <krisk_> Rubys: Focus ring seems to be at risk since IE11 supports but chrome has a bug
  214. # [18:26] <plh> q+
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  216. # [18:26] <krisk_> This since in '12. Drawing paths to the canvas'
  217. # [18:26] <MarkS> s/Focus ring/Custom focus ring
  218. # [18:27] <rubys> the plan would then be to mark custom focus ring to be at risk at this time, seek plans in 4Q 2013 for implementations in 1Q2014. If this function isn't implemented in 1Q2014, it will be removed at this time.
  219. # [18:28] <rubys> s/this time/that time/
  220. # [18:29] <rubys> janina and mark sadecki agrees
  221. # [18:29] <krisk_> plh: Does these being removed raise any concerns from the Accessibility Task Force?
  222. # [18:29] <krisk_> mark: We would like to have some time to confirm
  223. # [18:29] <krisk_> plh: Rik is going to update the page
  224. # [18:29] <plh> s/these/dashses, text metrics, and ellipse/
  225. # [18:29] <rubys> list of at risk features: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures
  226. # [18:30] <plh> [[
  227. # [18:30] <plh> Path object in Canvas
  228. # [18:30] <plh> Hit regions
  229. # [18:30] <plh> Dashes
  230. # [18:30] <plh> Text metrics
  231. # [18:30] <plh> Ellipse
  232. # [18:30] <krisk_> rubys: The plan to to make the document match the wiki
  233. # [18:30] <plh> ]]
  234. # [18:30] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/index.php?title=HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures&oldid=13988
  235. # [18:32] <krisk_> jania: Alt text on image section 4.8.1.1 is being looked at and we have some comments
  236. # [18:32] <krisk_> jania: The task force is getting close to being done and we don't expect any big changes
  237. # [18:33] <janina> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/longdesc-tests/
  238. # [18:33] <krisk_> jania: We have tests for longdesc and are looking for input from others
  239. # [18:33] <krisk_> jania: This runs until next tuesday, so please provide input
  240. # [18:35] <krisk_> TOPIC: Media Task Force
  241. # [18:35] <krisk_> Any comments/status?
  242. # [18:35] <krisk_> none
  243. # [18:35] <krisk_> TOPIC: Other Business
  244. # [18:35] <krisk_> publishing WAI_ARIA in HTML heartbeat
  245. # [18:35] <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0073.html
  246. # [18:36] <krisk_> Next is Returning canvas to last call
  247. # [18:36] <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0082.html
  248. # [18:36] <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0084.html
  249. # [18:36] <krisk_> The editors are working to complete this work
  250. # [18:37] <krisk_> Bug 21341 - Remove note that longdesc is obsolete for img
  251. # [18:37] <krisk_> This came up last week and has now been fixed
  252. # [18:37] <krisk_> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21341
  253. # [18:38] <krisk_> plh can darobin or someone (Mike?) fix the tests at http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/2dcontext/?
  254. # [18:39] <krisk_> plh: yes I can have someone fix these tests
  255. # [18:39] <krisk_> krisk: thanks!
  256. # [18:40] <krisk_> rubys: any other, other business?
  257. # [18:41] <krisk_> plh: Next we will announce a new HTML charter
  258. # [18:41] <krisk_> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeting?
  259. # [18:42] * plh will spend part of the previous night in a plane so not reliable as a scribe
  260. # [18:42] <Zakim> -pladd
  261. # [18:42] <Zakim> - +1.971.998.aaaa
  262. # [18:42] <Zakim> -MarkS
  263. # [18:42] <Zakim> -Sam
  264. # [18:42] <Zakim> -Plh
  265. # [18:42] <Zakim> -janina
  266. # [18:42] <krisk_> let's adjourn
  267. # [18:43] <krisk_> RRSAgent, make logs public
  268. # [18:43] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, krisk_
  269. # [18:43] <krisk_> rrsagent, generate minutes
  270. # [18:43] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-html-wg-minutes.html krisk_
  271. # [18:44] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  272. # [18:44] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  273. # [18:44] <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, pladd, MarkS, janina, Plh, +1.971.998.aaaa, krisk, [Microsoft]
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