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  38. # [11:12] <SteveF> MikeSmith: have pinged rich on focus ring stuff, he is the person to respond, a little perplexed as to what the acrimony is?
  39. # [11:20] <SteveF> MikeSmith: AFAIK the focus ring stuff has little to do with the rich text editing in canvas use case
  40. # [11:38] <MikeSmith> SteveF: if somebody would chime in what it is actually useful for that would be great
  41. # [11:40] <MikeSmith> what bothers me about it is the idea of pushing it through without people actually making their own critical evaluatin of it
  42. # [11:40] <SteveF> MikeSmith: there is some info here on what screen mags (for example require) http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Canvas
  43. # [11:40] * MikeSmith looks
  44. # [11:43] <SteveF> also here: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CaretSelection
  45. # [11:45] <SteveF> MikeSmith: FYI I make/made no claim to understand the requirements needed for focus ring
  46. # [11:46] <MikeSmith> SteveF: me neither (I guess you know)
  47. # [11:47] <SteveF> MikeSmith: although rich is on vacation I think he will respond on list have pinged him about it
  48. # [11:47] <MikeSmith> but if you don't that really means there probably are very few other people involved in the discussions who do
  49. # [11:47] <MikeSmith> SteveF: OK
  50. # [11:48] <MikeSmith> maybe Dominic understands
  51. # [11:50] <SteveF> MikeSmith: correct, that's why I have not been involved in the discussion, i tend to stay out of discussions i have little technical knowledge of, it has been driven primarily by rich who does understand and has consulted with AT vendors on what they require
  52. # [11:51] <MikeSmith> I xee
  53. # [11:51] <MikeSmith> *see
  54. # [11:53] <SteveF> but I don't see the problem with modifying the spec due to implementer/implementation feedback
  55. # [11:54] <SteveF> I thought that is what happened on a regular basis
  56. # [11:57] <MikeSmith> SteveF: yeah but the point is for implementors to do that before they implement it, not after
  57. # [11:58] <SteveF> MikeSmith: ok
  58. # [11:58] <MikeSmith> it still makes zero sense to me for Dominic to implement something and then turn around and say, We're not going to ship this.
  59. # [12:00] <SteveF> MikeSmith: i agree there
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  109. # [19:38] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] hober pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/6f2c9346857d...524411e63faa
  110. # [19:38] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 858c1e7 ianh: r8185: Make the <form> past names map associations go away when the form owner changes, not when the element is removed from the document.
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  116. # [19:55] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 2c6badb ianh: r8188: Make parser-driven form element pointer associations not happen when the element is inserted into a different home subtree than the form element, to avoid cross-subtree associations (which otherwise wouldn't be possible).
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  122. # [19:56] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master ad39bd1 ianh: r8190: [editorial] grammar fix.
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  127. # [20:04] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 6fde9e7 ianh: r8191: More information for authors using images of text.
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  134. # [20:14] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 8441d7e ianh: r8192: remove() is also defined on an ancestor interface, so overload it here on <select>.
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  140. # [20:24] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master d0a7c83 ianh: [Bug 23399] r8193: remove duplication in IDL.
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  148. # [20:36] <SteveF> hober: ping
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  153. # [20:45] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 9938b2d ianh: [editorial] Add warning notes to the Security sections of Location and Window since they are in flux with no end in sight.
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  157. # [20:48] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master c740550 ianh: [Bug 23401] r8197: Position <dialog>'s backdrop.
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  167. # [20:53] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master eee59a3 ianh: [Bug 23402] r8195: Change 'description' to the plural form so that videoTrack.kind is consistent with textTrack.kind, as it is for captions and subtitles already.
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  187. # [22:20] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master ce1ca40 Silvia Pfeiffer: Rename also "text track cue text" references of DataCue section...
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