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  6. # [00:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 3 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/d28121ae45fa...40626fd769e7
  7. # [00:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/feature/whatwg fe9b1d0 ianh: [e] (0) Make a note of the ills of PortCollection...
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  47. # [07:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/21db30ac28c08f6784dc2e4274f31fee6565d601
  48. # [07:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/feature/whatwg 21db30a ianh: [e] (0) Try to clarify the stroking rules better...
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  92. # [15:41] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/d503144cfe597c8a06a9fb34e1cd89dabab1e53c
  93. # [15:41] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master d503144 steve faulkner: Revert "make focus move to dialog"...
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  97. # [15:47] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master e1161e0 steve faulkner: Revert "defining aria mapping for modal dialog inert"...
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  130. # [17:59] <plh> trackbot, start telcon
  131. # [17:59] * @trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  133. # [17:59] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/10/10-html-wg-irc
  134. # [17:59] <@trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  135. # [17:59] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  137. # [17:59] <@trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  138. # [17:59] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
  139. # [17:59] <@trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  140. # [17:59] <@trackbot> Date: 10 October 2013
  141. # [17:59] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  142. # [17:59] <Zakim> +??P5
  143. # [18:00] <Zakim> + +1.425.444.aaaa
  144. # [18:00] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  145. # [18:00] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  146. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Plh
  147. # [18:00] <janina> zakim, ??P5 is me
  148. # [18:00] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  149. # [18:00] <Zakim> +glenn
  150. # [18:00] <plh> zakim, aaaa is Erika
  151. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Erika; got it
  152. # [18:00] <plh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0004.html
  153. # [18:00] <plh> Chair: plh
  154. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  155. # [18:01] <plh> agenda+ action items
  156. # [18:01] * Zakim notes agendum 1 added
  157. # [18:01] <plh> agenda+ Items closing this week
  158. # [18:01] * Zakim notes agendum 2 added
  159. # [18:01] <plh> agenda+ Items closing Next Week
  160. # [18:01] * Zakim notes agendum 3 added
  161. # [18:01] <edoyle> zakim, aaaa has me
  162. # [18:01] <Zakim> sorry, edoyle, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
  163. # [18:01] <krisk> Zakim Microsoft is krisk
  164. # [18:01] <Zakim> + +1.626.379.aabb
  165. # [18:01] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  166. # [18:01] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  167. # [18:01] <plh> agenda+ Task Force Reports
  168. # [18:01] * Zakim notes agendum 4 added
  169. # [18:02] <plh> agenda+ Other Business
  170. # [18:02] * Zakim notes agendum 5 added
  171. # [18:02] <edoyle> zakim, aaaa has edoyle
  172. # [18:02] <Zakim> sorry, edoyle, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
  173. # [18:02] <plh> agenda+ Next meeting
  174. # [18:02] * Zakim notes agendum 6 added
  175. # [18:02] * plh zakim, who is on the phone?
  176. # [18:02] * Zakim sees on the phone: Erika, janina, Plh, glenn, krisk, +1.626.379.aabb
  177. # [18:02] <plh> zakim, aabb is Daniel
  178. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Daniel; got it
  179. # [18:03] <krisk> I can scribe since TBD is not going to be able to make the meeting
  180. # [18:03] <krisk> scribe: krisk
  181. # [18:03] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  182. # [18:03] <Zakim> agendum 1. "action items" taken up [from plh]
  183. # [18:03] <plh> action-229?
  184. # [18:03] * @trackbot is looking up action-229.
  185. # [18:03] <@trackbot> action-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-10-10 -- OPEN
  186. # [18:03] <@trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229
  187. # [18:04] <krisk> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0016.html
  188. # [18:04] <krisk> Status: Robin/PLH to ping TAG; editors to confirm stylesheet
  189. # [18:04] <krisk> plh I believe we have heard back form TAG and when paul is back we can move forward
  190. # [18:04] <plh> action-230?
  191. # [18:04] * @trackbot is looking up action-230.
  192. # [18:04] <@trackbot> action-230 -- Paul Cotton to Report on chairs plan for work on dom4 -- due 2013-10-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
  193. # [18:04] <@trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/230
  194. # [18:05] <krisk> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0030.html
  195. # [18:05] <plh> close action-230
  196. # [18:05] * @trackbot is closing action-230.
  197. # [18:05] <@trackbot> Closed action-230.
  198. # [18:05] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  199. # [18:05] <Zakim> agendum 2. "Items closing this week" taken up [from plh]
  200. # [18:05] <krisk> A call went out for editors
  201. # [18:05] <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0030.html
  202. # [18:05] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  203. # [18:05] <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, plh
  204. # [18:06] <plh> zakim, close agendum 2
  205. # [18:06] <Zakim> agendum 2, Items closing this week, closed
  206. # [18:06] <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
  207. # [18:06] <Zakim> 3. Items closing Next Week [from plh]
  208. # [18:06] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  209. # [18:06] <Zakim> agendum 3. "Items closing Next Week" taken up [from plh]
  210. # [18:06] <krisk> If you are intrested in being an editor please ping the editors
  211. # [18:06] <krisk> ..soon since it ends tomorroww
  212. # [18:06] <Zakim> + +1.818.954.aacc
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  214. # [18:06] <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0031.html
  215. # [18:07] <krisk> This closes on Monday - no feedback yet on the lsit
  216. # [18:07] <krisk> s/lsit/list/
  217. # [18:07] <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0035.html
  218. # [18:07] <krisk> This is for CfC for First Public Working Draft of HTML Ruby Extensions
  219. # [18:07] <krisk> closing on Oct 15th and this will use the new dual license
  220. # [18:08] <plh> contact the Chairs if you need more time
  221. # [18:08] <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Sep/0010.html
  222. # [18:08] <krisk> Finally we have last call for MSE Last Call which closes Thursday, Oct 17
  223. # [18:08] <krisk> Please speak up before next thursday
  224. # [18:09] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  225. # [18:09] <Zakim> agendum 4. "Task Force Reports" taken up [from plh]
  226. # [18:09] <krisk> subtopic: Testing Task Force
  227. # [18:09] <plh> Kris: Erika is going to help a bit on the testing front
  228. # [18:09] <plh> ... from Microsoft
  229. # [18:09] <plh> ... Robin is going to update the Canvas test
  230. # [18:09] <plh> ... so the test runs properly
  231. # [18:10] <plh> ... we have agreement to move canvas tets from master to CR once those are fixed.
  232. # [18:10] <plh> ... acessibility for longtests, looking for feedback
  233. # [18:10] <plh> ... the tests are focusing on data URIs
  234. # [18:11] <plh> ... but there are probably more general cases to tests
  235. # [18:11] <plh> ... would be good to move the tests to web-platform-tests
  236. # [18:11] <plh> ... nothing seems to prevent them from using testharness.js
  237. # [18:11] <plh> Janina: we'll probably need some help here
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  239. # [18:11] <krisk> sure
  240. # [18:11] <plh> Denis Ah-Kang
  241. # [18:12] <plh> PLh: Denis is going to help on the HTML5 testing from the W3C staff
  242. # [18:12] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force
  243. # [18:13] <krisk> jania: we have a number of items going on
  244. # [18:13] <krisk> janina: We will have a CFC for working with PF
  245. # [18:14] <krisk> janina: We continue to work on longdesc tests and have gotten some feedback
  246. # [18:15] <krisk> janina: We approval from the WCAG on 4.8.8.1
  247. # [18:16] <krisk> janina: This is update is in the 5.1 nightly and we are hoping that with more consensus we can move this back into 5.0
  248. # [18:16] <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aadd
  249. # [18:16] <krisk> plh: What is the plan to move it back to 5.0?
  250. # [18:16] <plh> zakim, aadd is Eliott
  251. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Eliott; got it
  252. # [18:17] <krisk> janina: I have not heard about the when and how to do this specifically
  253. # [18:17] <krisk> janina: We have been spending time looking at MSE and EME specs
  254. # [18:18] <krisk> janina: We think the EME may need to be updated so that encrypted text/captions can be exposed
  255. # [18:18] <krisk> janina: This has been a problem in the past with e-books
  256. # [18:18] <krisk> janina: This looks more like an issue due to omission
  257. # [18:19] <krisk> janina: I will bring this up specifically to paul
  258. # [18:19] <krisk> plh: Has this been discussed before?
  259. # [18:19] <krisk> glenn: This came up at the F2F at paypal
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  261. # [18:20] <krisk> glenn: Chaals mentioned at the F2F that some content providers may not wish to expose text/captions to be copyed
  262. # [18:20] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Media Task Force
  263. # [18:21] <krisk> plh: Next week is a last call for MSE
  264. # [18:21] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  265. # [18:21] <Zakim> agendum 5. "Other Business" taken up [from plh]
  266. # [18:21] <krisk> Passive permission CR exit criteria status - HTML spec:
  267. # [18:21] <krisk> see https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18490#c12
  268. # [18:21] <krisk> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0008.html
  269. # [18:21] <krisk> plh: Erika can you update us on this item?
  270. # [18:22] <krisk> Erika: Yes I am working on resolving this in the next few days and may result in another bug
  271. # [18:22] <krisk> Passive permission CR exit criteria status - Canvas spec:
  272. # [18:23] <krisk> delayed until early Nov to resolve due to vacations
  273. # [18:23] <krisk> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0009.html
  274. # [18:23] <krisk> janina: I belive we wanted to wait until the end of this quater to see if we get more implementations on the items that are at risk
  275. # [18:23] <krisk> WG Decision to publish HTML Microdata as a WG Note
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  277. # [18:24] <krisk> Since we failed to find an editor
  278. # [18:24] <krisk> Returning Canvas to Last Call
  279. # [18:25] <krisk> Mike is working with Rick on updating
  280. # [18:25] <krisk> ...Editors are updating the document
  281. # [18:25] <krisk> ...once complete a LC draft will be published
  282. # [18:25] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  283. # [18:25] <Zakim> agendum 6. "Next meeting" taken up [from plh]
  284. # [18:25] <krisk> glenn: What about the DOM4 editor?
  285. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Daniel
  286. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Plh
  287. # [18:26] <Zakim> -glenn
  288. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Erika
  289. # [18:26] <krisk> plh: We have had a few people have responded and I expect the chairs to close for next weeks meeting
  290. # [18:26] <Zakim> -janina
  291. # [18:26] <Zakim> - +1.818.954.aacc
  292. # [18:26] * Parts: janina (~janina@public.cloak) (janina)
  293. # [18:27] <Zakim> -Eliott
  294. # [18:27] <krisk> Meeting adjourned
  295. # [18:28] <krisk> RRSAgent, make logs public
  296. # [18:28] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, krisk
  297. # [18:28] <krisk> rrsagent, generate minutes
  298. # [18:28] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/10-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
  299. # [18:29] <Zakim> -krisk
  300. # [18:29] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  301. # [18:29] <Zakim> Attendees were +1.425.444.aaaa, Plh, janina, glenn, Erika, +1.626.379.aabb, krisk, Daniel, +1.818.954.aacc, +1.206.850.aadd, Eliott
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  304. # [18:34] <CyrilRa> Zakim, aacc is CyrilRa
  305. # [18:34] <Zakim> sorry, CyrilRa, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
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