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  1. # Session Start: Thu Oct 31 00:00:00 2013
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  6. # [00:38] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/b23a11a0f1e2...ebc4c5c4a533
  7. # [00:38] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/feature/whatwg d113707 ianh: [giow] (3) The bulk of this is editorial: refactoring how scripts are defined so that all the common stuff is in a shared 'settings object' rather than being duplicated per script. But this also cleans up how postMessage() interacts with the event loop and a few other things I've since forgotten....
  8. # [00:38] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/feature/whatwg ebc4c5c ianh: [a] (0) Update conformance criteria to match what's conforming....
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  39. # [10:45] <SteveF> darobin: i thought a little more about bug merger idea and added a little to wiki "(thinking about it some more I am actually OK with bugs filed against the whatwg spec being assigned to Ian, but bugs against the w3c html spec should not be auto assigned and w3c editors get first bite at taking, if no one does then Ian can take. [but keeping rule that if someone takes and the bug stagnates,...
  40. # [10:45] <SteveF> ...then another editor can work on it]i.e. reduce blocking). "
  41. # [10:46] <SteveF> don't know how practical that is...
  42. # [10:47] <SteveF> MikeSmith: see above
  43. # [10:47] <SteveF> MikeSmit1: see above
  44. # [10:51] <MikeSmit1> SteveF: sounds reasonable
  45. # [10:52] <SteveF> its on the wiki for further discussion
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  47. # [11:14] <darobin> SteveF: I see what you mean, but I need to noodle over the exact way in which it could work
  48. # [11:15] <SteveF> darobin: sure
  49. # [11:16] <SteveF> darobin: I am trying to offer suggestions which I think would be workable/equitable
  50. # [11:16] <darobin> yes yes, much appreciated
  51. # [11:23] <darobin> MikeSmit1: in the long and great tradition of dumping anything that mentions validation in your lap, do you have an opinion on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23587#c8 ?
  52. # [11:23] * MikeSmit1 looks
  53. # [11:23] <MikeSmit1> yeah saw that bug
  54. # [11:24] <MikeSmit1> It's already on the stack of open validator enhancements requested by Leif
  55. # [11:24] <MikeSmit1> frankly I'm not even sure what he's asking for
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  57. # [11:25] <MikeSmith> bug https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23597 I mean
  58. # [11:26] <MikeSmith> I think it might be related to something zcorpan already brought up
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  60. # [11:27] <MikeSmith> and I think Hixie may have already made a change to the spec
  61. # [11:33] <darobin> MikeSmith: yeah, I can't really parse it either
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  98. # [16:53] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  99. # [16:53] <Zakim> + +1.908.696.aaaa
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  106. # [16:57] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  107. # [16:57] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  108. # [16:57] <Zakim> +Plh
  109. # [16:57] <Zakim> +??P3
  110. # [16:58] <janina> zakim, ??P3 is me
  111. # [16:58] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  112. # [16:58] * plh zakim, who is on the phone?
  113. # [16:58] * Zakim sees on the phone: +1.908.696.aaaa, Eliott, janina, Plh
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  115. # [16:58] <Zakim> +Sam
  116. # [16:58] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  117. # [16:58] <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.908.696.aaaa, Eliott, janina, Plh, Sam
  118. # [16:58] <plh> zakim, aaaa is Chris
  119. # [16:58] <Zakim> +Chris; got it
  120. # [16:58] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  121. # [16:58] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  122. # [16:58] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  123. # [16:58] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
  124. # [16:58] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  125. # [16:59] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  126. # [16:59] <ask_avaya> ask_avaya is A.S. Krishnakumar from Avaya in Basking Ridge, NJ. I go by Krishna or ask.
  127. # [16:59] <plh> zakim, Microsoft.a is Paul
  128. # [16:59] <Zakim> +Paul; got it
  129. # [16:59] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  130. # [16:59] <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft.a]'
  131. # [16:59] <Zakim> +Daniel_Austin
  132. # [17:00] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0011.html
  133. # [17:01] <rubys> scribenick: rubys
  134. # [17:01] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  135. # [17:01] <Zakim> On the phone I see Chris, Eliott, janina, Plh, Sam, [Microsoft], Paul, Daniel_Austin
  136. # [17:01] <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, October 31
  137. # [17:01] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  138. # [17:01] <rubys> chair: paulc
  139. # [17:01] <rubys> action-229?
  140. # [17:01] * trackbot is looking up action-229.
  141. # [17:01] <trackbot> action-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-10-31 -- OPEN
  142. # [17:01] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229
  143. # [17:02] <rubys> Status: Robin is working on a script to produce a authoring view of the HTML5 spec.
  144. # [17:02] <rubys> action-229 is due 14 november
  145. # [17:03] <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week
  146. # [17:03] <rubys> CfC: to approve the revised HTML A11Y TF work statement and decision procedures, closes Wed Oct 30 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0082.html
  147. # [17:03] <rubys> paulc: I don't see any objections, there will be a WG decision imminently; PF has already approved this
  148. # [17:03] <rubys> paulc: I'll try to do the WG decision later today
  149. # [17:04] <rubys> topic: New Calls
  150. # [17:04] <rubys> CfC: to publish Responsive Images Use Cases as a WG Note, closes Mon Nov 4 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0095.html
  151. # [17:04] <rubys> CfC: to publish a First Public Working Draft (FPWD) of DOM4, closes Tue Nov 5 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0102.html
  152. # [17:05] <rubys> paulc: (to PLH) the status section of the DOM4 spec doesn't mention patent obligations from the previous author, should it?
  153. # [17:05] <rubys> PLH: no, the patent obligations don't carry
  154. # [17:06] <rubys> paulc: any comments? We are trying to get both of these documents published before the TPAC moratorium.
  155. # [17:06] <rubys> topic: WG Decisions
  156. # [17:06] <rubys> WG Decision to publish "HTML 5.1" and "Canvas Level 2" heartbeat Working Drafts http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0093.html
  157. # [17:06] <rubys> WG Decision to publish Microdata WG Note http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0094.html
  158. # [17:06] <rubys> topic: Outstanding WG Decisions
  159. # [17:07] <rubys> CfC: Approve overview of testing in view of permissive CR exit criteria http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0008.html
  160. # [17:07] <rubys> CfC: Approve overview of Canvas testing in view of permissive CR exit criteria http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0009.html
  161. # [17:07] <rubys> paulc: both CfCs are on the TPAC face to face agenda; this was extensively discussed in the A11y TF meeting today
  162. # [17:08] <rubys> paulc: the TF will do some sort of survey or poll
  163. # [17:08] <rubys> janina: the plan is to follow the new published decision procedures and come to consensus
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  165. # [17:09] <rubys> goal is to determine what parts will be deferred to level 2
  166. # [17:09] <rubys> topic: Publications this week
  167. # [17:09] <paulc> http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/3365
  168. # [17:10] <rubys> HTML Working Group updated HTML 5.1, HTML Canvas 2D Context, Level 2, and HTML Microdata were all published on schedule
  169. # [17:10] <rubys> paulc: can I be introduced to the webmaster at TPAC
  170. # [17:11] <rubys> plh: indeed
  171. # [17:11] <rubys> paulc: sam, you will have to deal with the outstanding decisions while I am travelling
  172. # [17:11] <rubys> topic: Other Business
  173. # [17:12] <rubys> Polyglot status / roadmap http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0099.html
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  175. # [17:12] <rubys> paulc: this helped unblock one item and identify two items
  176. # [17:13] <rubys> eliot: we took care of the i18n bugs yesterday; there are additional bugs that we hadn't noticed
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  178. # [17:14] <rubys> Please take a moment to rejoin the HTML Working Group, deadline is Nov 14 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0000.html
  179. # [17:15] <rubys> paulc notes that the link provided may not be visible
  180. # [17:15] <paulc> Page states: a reminder will be sent to their AC Reps two weeks before
  181. # [17:16] <rubys> rubys: I can confirm that a bunch of emails were sent yesterday
  182. # [17:16] <Zakim> +cabanier
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  184. # [17:16] <rubys> F2F planning and Wiki agenda: http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2013-11-Agenda
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  186. # [17:17] <plh> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Oct/0116.html Last Call for "CSS Syntax Module Level 3"
  187. # [17:18] <rubys> plh: we received a request from the CSS working group to review the level 3 draft, deadline is the 17th
  188. # [17:18] <plh> --> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Oct/0117.html Resource Priorities
  189. # [17:19] <rubys> plh: we intent to present this to the HTML WG at the F2F
  190. # [17:20] <rubys> plh: this spec extends HTML5
  191. # [17:21] <plh> regrets from me next week
  192. # [17:22] <rubys> paulc: we are meeting next week, Nov 7; Sam will chair. We then will then meet at TPAC but there will not be telecons for the subsequent two weeks or Thanksgiving; the next telecon will be December 5th.
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  194. # [17:22] <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
  195. # [17:22] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
  196. # [17:22] <rubys> paulc: meeting adjourned
  197. # [17:23] <Zakim> -Chris
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  201. # [17:23] <Zakim> -cabanier
  202. # [17:23] <Zakim> -Sam
  203. # [17:23] <Zakim> -Daniel_Austin
  204. # [17:23] <Zakim> -Eliott
  205. # [17:23] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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  207. # [17:23] <Zakim> -Paul
  208. # [17:23] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  209. # [17:23] <Zakim> Attendees were +1.908.696.aaaa, Eliott, Plh, janina, Sam, Chris, jaymunro, [Microsoft], Paul, Daniel_Austin, cabanier
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  212. # [17:50] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/76dd0dcb588248a17b16a8c2902799087062adf4
  213. # [17:50] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 76dd0dc steve faulkner: match reality...
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  216. # [17:52] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] stevefaulkner pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/00f6a2c29d003a2438e7d3c5abce12798ab0e77a
  217. # [17:52] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 00f6a2c steve faulkner: Revert "match reality"...
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