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  183. # [18:03] * rubys changes topic to 'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0015.html'
  184. # [18:03] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  188. # [18:03] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  189. # [18:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  191. # [18:03] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  192. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
  193. # [18:03] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  194. # [18:03] <trackbot> Date: 05 December 2013
  195. # [18:03] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  196. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Sam
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  200. # [18:04] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  201. # [18:04] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
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  206. # [18:06] <janina> zakim, ??P24 is me
  207. # [18:06] <Zakim> +janina; got it
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  209. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  210. # [18:07] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
  211. # [18:07] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  212. # [18:07] * plh zakim, who is on the phone?
  213. # [18:07] * Zakim sees on the phone: Sam, +1.206.850.aaaa, Plh, Daniel_Austin, janina, pladd, [Microsoft]
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  216. # [18:08] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  217. # [18:08] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  218. # [18:08] <plh> scribe: plh
  219. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  220. # [18:08] <plh> Topic: Action items
  221. # [18:08] <plh> action-229?
  222. # [18:08] * trackbot is looking up action-229.
  223. # [18:08] <trackbot> action-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-11-14 -- OPEN
  224. # [18:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229
  225. # [18:09] <plh> Paul: it was decided that this action is on Robin's TODO list
  226. # [18:09] <plh> ... but low priority
  227. # [18:09] <plh> ... compared to HTML5 testing document
  228. # [18:09] <plh> ... change the date to 2 weeks from today
  229. # [18:09] <plh> ... December 19
  230. # [18:09] <plh> Sam: 19 is it then
  231. # [18:10] <plh> action-237?
  232. # [18:10] * trackbot is looking up action-237.
  233. # [18:10] <trackbot> action-237 -- Robin Berjon to Give us a revised overview of testing document - in 4 weeks -- due 2013-12-04 -- OPEN
  234. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/237
  235. # [18:10] <plh> Paul: carry this one to next week
  236. # [18:10] <plh> Topic: Surveys
  237. # [18:10] <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Dec/0004.html
  238. # [18:10] <plh> Preference Survey: Polyglot Note vs Recommendation Track
  239. # [18:11] <plh> closes on Tuesday
  240. # [18:11] <plh> Topic: Task Force reports
  241. # [18:11] <plh> Sam: testing tf? no Kris around...
  242. # [18:12] <plh> Paul: we looked at the canvas test suite results
  243. # [18:12] <plh> ... sounded promising
  244. # [18:12] <plh> ... so we have good results
  245. # [18:14] <paulc> Canvas2D test results: http://w3c-test.org/testrunner/2dcontext/
  246. # [18:14] <paulc> also: http://w3c-test.org/testrunner/2dcontext/failures.html
  247. # [18:14] <plh> Sam: net is HTML a11y tf
  248. # [18:14] <janina> http://www.w3.org/2013/12/05-html-a11y-minutes.html
  249. # [18:14] <rubys> s/net is/next is/
  250. # [18:14] <plh> Janina: canvas a11y has been a hot topic
  251. # [18:15] <plh> ... plh filed bugs related to focus ring
  252. # [18:15] <plh> ... we'll focus on squashing them now
  253. # [18:15] <plh> ... we might let customfocusring to L2 since it might take longer
  254. # [18:15] <plh> ... but for system focus ring, we're looking at 60-90 days
  255. # [18:15] <paulc> See plh email about bugs: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Dec/0011.html
  256. # [18:15] <plh> ... we agreed to reactive the canvas tf subteam to work on the bugs
  257. # [18:16] <plh> ... there were several ARIA related bugs that we're trying to move forward
  258. # [18:16] <paulc> The ARIA bugs that janina mentioned are on HTML5
  259. # [18:16] <plh> ... bugs related to ARIA hidden will be discussed on Monday
  260. # [18:16] <plh> ... there is a proposal from Ted to resolve them
  261. # [18:17] <plh> ... will be used as the starting point
  262. # [18:17] <plh> ... Steve filed a bugt we should go over the ARIA properties mapping
  263. # [18:18] <plh> Paul: that's about 3 bugs in HTML5 CR
  264. # [18:18] <plh> Janina: correct
  265. # [18:18] <plh> ... related to issue 204
  266. # [18:19] <plh> ... I also have an action item related to come back on the MSE bugs
  267. # [18:19] <plh> ... we're slowing moving on longdesc
  268. # [18:20] <plh> ... standalone vs integration
  269. # [18:20] <plh> ... seems like the prevailing opinion is standalone
  270. # [18:20] <paulc> MSE LC bugs: http://tinyurl.com/lowrcmq EME open bugs: http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo
  271. # [18:20] <plh> Sam: Media TF?
  272. # [18:21] <plh> Paul: we've been figuring our status post-TPAC
  273. # [18:21] <plh> ... we have a plan for a candidate CR spec for MSE
  274. # [18:21] <plh> ... but we reference a FileAPI feature that doesn't exist anymore
  275. # [18:21] <plh> ... so this bug blocks MSE at the moment
  276. # [18:21] <plh> ... might take more than a week to get done
  277. # [18:22] <plh> ... next step after that will be a CFC to move MSE forward
  278. # [18:22] <plh> ... on the EME front, we have open bugs
  279. # [18:22] <plh> ... and the editors need to follow-up from TPAC
  280. # [18:22] <plh> ... with proposed solutions and edits
  281. # [18:23] <plh> ... we'll be down to less than 10 bugs by end of the year I think
  282. # [18:23] <plh> Topic: Other business
  283. # [18:24] <plh> Sam: f2f minutes, ...
  284. # [18:24] <plh> http://www.w3.org/2013/11/14-html-wg-minutes.html
  285. # [18:24] <plh> Sam: MSE status (see above)
  286. # [18:24] <plh> ... overview of testing (waiting on action-237)
  287. # [18:25] <plh> ... canvas testing (see above)
  288. # [18:25] <plh> ... 11 bugs
  289. # [18:25] <plh> ... we'll be addressed in the upcoming weeks
  290. # [18:25] <plh> ... status of heartbeat of picture element
  291. # [18:25] <plh> Paul: the chairs need to address this one
  292. # [18:25] <plh> ... following the recommendation from the CG
  293. # [18:26] <plh> ... we'll try to action this item before next week meeting
  294. # [18:26] <plh> Sam: longdesc (see above)
  295. # [18:29] <paulc> q+
  296. # [18:29] * Zakim sees paulc on the speaker queue
  297. # [18:29] <plh> plh: [stability of section 5 of DOM4]
  298. # [18:29] <plh> Sam: please send a note to the list
  299. # [18:29] <rubys> ack paulc
  300. # [18:29] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  301. # [18:29] <janina> q+
  302. # [18:29] * Zakim sees janina on the speaker queue
  303. # [18:30] <plh> Paul: since there are many other specs that reference to DOM4, would it be useful to develop a report on the stability of DOM4?
  304. # [18:30] <plh> plh: yes, a survey would be nice
  305. # [18:30] <plh> Paul: like we did on HTML5
  306. # [18:31] <plh> Paul: the Chairs will follow up after your note
  307. # [18:32] <plh> ack janina
  308. # [18:32] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  309. # [18:32] <rubys> ack next
  310. # [18:32] * Zakim sees no one at the head of the speaker queue
  311. # [18:32] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  312. # [18:32] <plh> Janina: PF has interest in this topic
  313. # [18:32] <plh> ... related to mutation events
  314. # [18:32] <plh> ... whether the replacement meets our need
  315. # [18:34] <plh> [...]
  316. # [18:35] <plh> Paul: if you make it explicit about the implementation experience and tests, we could do a CfC
  317. # [18:35] <plh> ... and see if anyone objects
  318. # [18:35] <plh> ... seems like the fatest way
  319. # [18:36] <plh> ... we might be able to respond by the following Tuesday (Dec 17)
  320. # [18:36] <paulc> zakim, who is on the call?
  321. # [18:36] <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, +1.206.850.aaaa, Plh, Daniel_Austin, janina, pladd, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a]
  322. # [18:36] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  323. # [18:36] <plh> Topic: Scribe next week?
  324. # [18:36] <plh> Sam: Paul will chair
  325. # [18:36] <plh> [adjourned]
  326. # [18:36] <Zakim> -pladd
  327. # [18:37] <Zakim> -Daniel_Austin
  328. # [18:37] <Zakim> -janina
  329. # [18:37] <Zakim> - +1.206.850.aaaa
  330. # [18:37] <Zakim> -Sam
  331. # [18:37] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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  334. # [18:37] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  335. # [18:37] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  336. # [18:37] <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, +1.206.850.aaaa, Plh, Daniel_Austin, janina, pladd, jaymunro, [Microsoft]
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  338. # [18:37] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is paulc
  339. # [18:37] <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft]'
  340. # [18:38] <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
  341. # [18:38] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/05-html-wg-minutes.html plh
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