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  16. # [01:45] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to feature/whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/0ed0d1096ee1...311cb6228fe4
  17. # [01:45] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/feature/whatwg ff70ded ianh: [giow] (2) Revamp 'input' and 'change' event logic for <input> elements. The primary goal here is to make 'input' events fire on type=checkbox, type=radio, and type=file, but this also improves the way other things here are phrased....
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  105. # [18:01] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  109. # [18:01] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  110. # [18:01] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  112. # [18:01] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  113. # [18:01] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
  114. # [18:01] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  115. # [18:01] <trackbot> Date: 19 December 2013
  116. # [18:02] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  117. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Sam
  118. # [18:02] * rubys changes topic to 'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0019.html'
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  120. # [18:03] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  121. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  122. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Mike
  123. # [18:03] <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
  124. # [18:03] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
  125. # [18:03] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  126. # [18:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  127. # [18:03] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  128. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  129. # [18:03] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  130. # [18:03] <trackbot> Date: 19 December 2013
  131. # [18:03] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  132. # [18:03] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  133. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  134. # [18:04] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  135. # [18:04] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  136. # [18:04] <Zakim> +??P9
  137. # [18:04] <Zakim> -??P9
  138. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  139. # [18:05] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  140. # [18:05] <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, Mike, paulc, [Microsoft]
  141. # [18:05] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  142. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  143. # [18:05] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  144. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Plh
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  147. # [18:05] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft.a has me
  148. # [18:05] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  149. # [18:05] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0019.html
  150. # [18:06] <Zakim> -??P15
  151. # [18:06] <plh> scribe: plh
  152. # [18:06] <plh> Topic: Action items
  153. # [18:07] <plh> action-237?
  154. # [18:07] * trackbot is looking up action-237.
  155. # [18:07] <trackbot> action-237 -- Robin Berjon to Give us a revised overview of testing document - in 4 weeks -- due 2013-12-16 -- OPEN
  156. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/237
  157. # [18:07] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Dec/0013.html
  158. # [18:07] <Zakim> +??P15
  159. # [18:07] <plh> ACTION-237: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Dec/0013.html
  160. # [18:07] * trackbot is adding a note to ACTION-237.
  161. # [18:07] <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-237 Give us a revised overview of testing document - in 4 weeks.
  162. # [18:08] <plh> q+
  163. # [18:08] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  164. # [18:08] <plh> Paul: we need to look at the document, and then see if it maintains the position from the original CfC
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  166. # [18:09] <plh> plh: having a legend on the document would help
  167. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  168. # [18:09] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
  169. # [18:09] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  170. # [18:10] <plh> ... not sure what the priority tag means
  171. # [18:10] <Eliot> q+
  172. # [18:10] * Zakim sees plh, Eliot on the speaker queue
  173. # [18:10] <plh> Paul: that's a request for the accessibility
  174. # [18:10] <rubys> ack plh
  175. # [18:10] * Zakim sees Eliot on the speaker queue
  176. # [18:10] <Eliot> Per Robin's mail: The "priority" items come from the list that Erika and Denis made.
  177. # [18:10] <rubys> ack next
  178. # [18:10] * Zakim sees Eliot at the head of the speaker queue
  179. # [18:10] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  180. # [18:11] <plh> Eliot: look at Robin's email for the priority provenance
  181. # [18:11] <plh> plh: would be nice to have it in the document itself
  182. # [18:11] <plh> action-229?
  183. # [18:11] * trackbot is looking up action-229.
  184. # [18:11] <trackbot> action-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-12-19 -- OPEN
  185. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229
  186. # [18:11] <plh> Paul: Robin made progress on that front. it works on the editors of HTML 5.1
  187. # [18:11] <plh> s/editors/editors draft/
  188. # [18:12] <plh> ... I sent some comments back to him
  189. # [18:12] <plh> ... but would be nice to expose it to the WG
  190. # [18:12] <plh> ... and apply to HTML 5.0
  191. # [18:12] <plh> ... not sure if we should apply it to any other spec
  192. # [18:12] <plh> ... I'll start the dialog with the editors
  193. # [18:13] <paulc> MRDV
  194. # [18:13] <plh> plh: best is to do the minimum to declare victory here
  195. # [18:13] <plh> Paul: agreed
  196. # [18:13] <plh> close action-237
  197. # [18:13] * trackbot is closing action-237.
  198. # [18:13] <trackbot> Closed action-237.
  199. # [18:14] <plh> Paul: I'll follow up on action 229
  200. # [18:14] <plh> Topic: Items closing this week
  201. # [18:14] <plh> Sam: CfC for MSE
  202. # [18:14] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Dec/0053.html
  203. # [18:14] <plh> ... we have a decision
  204. # [18:14] <plh> ... to move to CR
  205. # [18:14] <plh> ... so it's going to proceed to the Director
  206. # [18:15] <plh> ... no objection
  207. # [18:15] <plh> Topic: Task Force reports
  208. # [18:15] <plh> Testing
  209. # [18:15] <plh> Sam: do we have Kris around?
  210. # [18:15] <plh> ... let's skip it
  211. # [18:15] <plh> Ay11 TF
  212. # [18:16] <paulc> a) The TF is runing a CfC to move longdesc to Recomendation as an extension spec.
  213. # [18:16] <plh> s/omen/ommen/
  214. # [18:16] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Dec/0077.html
  215. # [18:16] <paulc> b) Lots of discussion about TF input on MSE multi-track support.
  216. # [18:16] <plh> Paul: it's getting support to publish as a separate REC
  217. # [18:17] <plh> Paul: the bootomline here is that the a11y tf still have broad concerns about a11y of video in HTML5
  218. # [18:17] <plh> ... but realized that by commenting on MSE, they've been looking at the wrong place
  219. # [18:17] <Zakim> +Glenn
  220. # [18:17] <paulc> c) The Canvas sub-team of the TF is processing Canvas CR bugs on focusring topic
  221. # [18:18] <plh> Paul: the Canvas subteam will meet on January 6
  222. # [18:18] <plh> ... need to optimize to deal with the Canvas CR bugs first
  223. # [18:18] <jaymunro> q+
  224. # [18:18] * Zakim sees jaymunro on the speaker queue
  225. # [18:19] <plh> ... current estimates are 2-3 months. hoping we can do them faster
  226. # [18:19] <rubys> ack next
  227. # [18:19] * Zakim sees jaymunro at the head of the speaker queue
  228. # [18:19] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  229. # [18:19] <plh> Jay: on the a11y tf canvas subteam, we worked out two bugs so far. I think we'll be done very quickly, less a month
  230. # [18:20] <plh> ... I'll move the custom focus ring bugs to L2
  231. # [18:21] <plh> Media TF
  232. # [18:21] <plh> Paul: MSE is going to CR
  233. # [18:21] <plh> ... CfC passed
  234. # [18:21] <plh> ... we dealt with the a11y comments on multi-tracks support
  235. # [18:22] <plh> ... Director's transition meeting is later today
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  237. # [18:22] <plh> ... we spent time on EME
  238. # [18:22] <plh> ... about 17 bugs open
  239. # [18:22] <plh> ... most of them are in the hands of the editors, ie we have concrete proposals
  240. # [18:22] <plh> ... so the number should go down fast
  241. # [18:22] <plh> Topic: AOB
  242. # [18:22] <plh> Sam: next telecon is on January 9
  243. # [18:23] <plh> plh: we can publish MSE earlier than January 9 btw
  244. # [18:24] <plh> Paul: the date in the document can be changed, but I wouldn't recommend to change the date of the minimum duration
  245. # [18:24] <paulc> Happy Holidays to everyone.
  246. # [18:24] <Eliot> feels for Paul. :(
  247. # [18:25] <plh> Topic: Next meeting
  248. # [18:25] <plh> Sam: January 9
  249. # [18:25] <plh> ... chaired by Paul
  250. # [18:25] <plh> Paul: I'll try to remember to add the testing tf report
  251. # [18:25] <plh> ... I'll try to get Kris to attend
  252. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Mike
  253. # [18:26] <plh> [adjourned]
  254. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Plh
  255. # [18:26] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  256. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Sam
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  259. # [18:26] <Zakim> -adrianba
  260. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Glenn
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  274. # [18:59] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  275. # [18:59] <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Mike, paulc, [Microsoft], Plh, jaymunro, adrianba, Glenn
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  277. # [19:23] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] erikadoyle pushed 2 new commits to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/ca1986c79c26...5132879fa2c2
  278. # [19:23] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/CR 6d8cb3d ianh: [giow] (1) Move all requirements about bidi out and just rely on CSS instead. Also, fix the CSS rules for <bdo>. Follow-up changes for W3C HTML5 CR bug 22326....
  279. # [19:23] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/CR 5132879 ianh: [e] (0) Clarify bidi CSS rules interaction...
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The end :)