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  115. # [16:44] <SteveF> darobin: hi, do blink and webkit count as 2 separate implementations for at risk features?
  116. # [16:45] <darobin> SteveF: the decision seems to be "only if the feature was implemented after the fork"
  117. # [16:45] <SteveF> darobin: OK thanks, do we have a way to discern that?
  118. # [16:46] <darobin> SteveF: I just ask hober :)
  119. # [16:46] <SteveF> hober man knows - OK
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  124. # [16:59] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  127. # [16:59] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/03/13-html-wg-irc
  128. # [16:59] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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  131. # [16:59] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  132. # [16:59] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  133. # [16:59] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  134. # [16:59] <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2014
  135. # [16:59] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  136. # [16:59] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  137. # [16:59] <Zakim> +Plh
  138. # [16:59] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  139. # [17:00] <krisk> Zakim, [Microsoft] is krisk
  140. # [17:00] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  141. # [17:00] * rubys zakim, who is on the call?
  142. # [17:00] * Zakim sees on the phone: Sam, Daniel_Wester, Plh, krisk
  143. # [17:00] <Zakim> +pladd
  144. # [17:00] <krisk> Chair: rubys
  145. # [17:00] <krisk> scribe: krisk
  146. # [17:00] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  147. # [17:00] <krisk> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0022.html
  148. # [17:00] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
  149. # [17:00] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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  151. # [17:01] <krisk> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, March 13
  152. # [17:01] <krisk> none
  153. # [17:01] <janina> zakim, call janina
  154. # [17:01] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  155. # [17:01] <Zakim> +Janina
  156. # [17:01] <krisk> TOPIC: Last Calls
  157. # [17:01] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Polyglot Markup
  158. # [17:02] <krisk> This is progressing with one bug
  159. # [17:02] <krisk> see http://tinyurl.com/pzo933q
  160. # [17:02] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: W3C DOM4
  161. # [17:02] <krisk> 6 bugs http://tinyurl.com/q6ea7mn
  162. # [17:02] <krisk> plh: where were these bugs from pf?
  163. # [17:03] <krisk> rubys: No bugs from pf and they sent and email saying they don't expect and bugs for DOM4
  164. # [17:03] <krisk> plh: Looks like only one technical bug, others are editorials
  165. # [17:03] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Mar/0007.html
  166. # [17:04] <krisk> plh: next step is for robin to update bugs?
  167. # [17:04] <krisk> rubys: correct and then we can move to CR
  168. # [17:04] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: CR Progress
  169. # [17:04] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Move Canvas2D back to last call
  170. # [17:04] <krisk> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014JanMar/0172.html
  171. # [17:05] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014JanMar/0172.html
  172. # [17:05] <krisk> rubys: oops that is the wrong link, hold on I'll find the right link
  173. # [17:05] <krisk> krisk: rubys: that is actually the right link
  174. # [17:06] <krisk> rubys: good progress is still being made
  175. # [17:06] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: HTML5.0
  176. # [17:06] <krisk> Still have 8 bugs not progressing
  177. # [17:06] <krisk> see http://tinyurl.com/le59ctq
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  179. # [17:06] <krisk> Goal is to close these bugs by Saturday
  180. # [17:07] <krisk> krisk: I have a few people look for test that fail in all browser - specifically broken tests
  181. # [17:08] <krisk> krisk: Happy to share these results
  182. # [17:08] <krisk> plh: The test report page has also been updated
  183. # [17:08] <krisk> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
  184. # [17:08] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Testing Task Force
  185. # [17:09] <rubys> s/SUBTOPIC: CR Progress/TOPIC: CR Progress/
  186. # [17:09] <krisk> krisk: As mentioned above I have some people looking at testsin github, looking for tests that fail in multiple browsers
  187. # [17:09] <krisk> krisk: We also started to look that the MSE github tests from google
  188. # [17:10] <krisk> krisk: I also will send an email/ask about getting some DOM4 tests for newer parts of the spec
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  190. # [17:11] <plh> http://w3c-test.org/tools/runner/index.html
  191. # [17:11] <krisk> plh: Last week mike smith deployed the new testing server (see above)
  192. # [17:11] <krisk> krisk: neat!
  193. # [17:11] <krisk> plh: So now basically no apache, just the python server
  194. # [17:12] <krisk> plh: So if you go to the link you can run all the tests, just a start but it up and running for some of the DOM tests
  195. # [17:13] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force
  196. # [17:13] <krisk> janina: Small turn out and we are not meeting next week
  197. # [17:14] <krisk> janina: Canvas is progressing and long desc is moving slow
  198. # [17:14] <krisk> janina: F2F should help longdesc
  199. # [17:14] <krisk> janina: We are talking about F2F topics - possible issue or extension specs
  200. # [17:15] <krisk> janina: We need an update from steven about 'alt' and getting this back into the 5.0 spec
  201. # [17:15] <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Media Task Force
  202. # [17:15] <krisk> rubys: paulc is oof in china, let's get and update next week
  203. # [17:16] <krisk> TOPIC: Other Business
  204. # [17:16] <krisk> plh: I wanted to talk about normative references in the 5.0 spec
  205. # [17:16] <rubys> s/get and update/get an update/
  206. # [17:16] <krisk> plh: I am hoping to provide some good information about having the normative references are stable
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  208. # [17:17] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist
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  210. # [17:19] <krisk_> plh: I wanted to ask about use cases in 5.1 that don't exist in 5.0
  211. # [17:20] <krisk_> janina: We are revisiting this as mentioned about
  212. # [17:20] <krisk_> s/about/above/
  213. # [17:20] <krisk_> janina: For example date and time pickers on the web are very problematic
  214. # [17:20] <krisk_> janina: This could be a good F2F discussion, I won't be at the F2F but a conf call would work
  215. # [17:21] <krisk_> janina: One item to get done is the accessibility mapping for 5.0
  216. # [17:21] <krisk_> janina: Having this ready in the 5.0 timeframe and aria 1.1
  217. # [17:22] <krisk_> janina: This document may have normative parts and not just a 'note'
  218. # [17:22] <krisk_> rubys: any other items to discuss?
  219. # [17:22] <krisk_> plh: will scribe
  220. # [17:22] <krisk_> thanks!
  221. # [17:22] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  222. # [17:22] <Zakim> -Daniel_Wester
  223. # [17:22] <Zakim> -pladd
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  225. # [17:22] <Zakim> -Sam
  226. # [17:22] <Zakim> -Plh
  227. # [17:22] <Zakim> -krisk
  228. # [17:22] <Zakim> -Janina
  229. # [17:22] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  230. # [17:22] <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Daniel_Wester, Plh, krisk, pladd, jaymunro, Janina
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  232. # [17:22] <krisk_> meeting adjourned
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  236. # [17:23] <krisk_> rrsagent, generate minutes
  237. # [17:23] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/13-html-wg-minutes.html krisk_
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  256. # [19:45] <gitbot> [syntax] sideshowbarker pushed 1 new commit to galimatias: https://github.com/validator/syntax/commit/957d43d6035a640cba1ee618f11e19501c5de5d7
  257. # [19:45] <gitbot> syntax/galimatias 957d43d Michael[tm] Smith: Don't trim leading/trailing WS; galimatias does it
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The end :)