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  1. # Session Start: Thu May 22 00:00:00 2014
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  4. # [00:33] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html-tools] travisleithead pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html-tools/commit/a90d66243fe0887f6cadb3f65669c5813fd26669
  5. # [00:33] -gitbot:#html-wg- html-tools/master a90d662 Travis Leithead: Add new substitution for <!--NON-NORMATIVE SECTION-->...
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  19. # [02:44] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] travisleithead pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/e8e65e1dc9ba...dbec713c46fe
  20. # [02:44] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 2aafa8c Travis Leithead: Prep for big editorial cleanup: move Ruby
  21. # [02:44] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/master 14dadba Travis Leithead: Prep for big editorial cleanup: move "User Interactions" into place.
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  47. # [10:35] <SteveF> darobin: great job putting meat on your mental bone with - http://discourse.specifiction.org
  48. # [10:41] <jgraham> Er, it seems darobin accidentially replaced a mailing list with a proprietary forum.
  49. # [10:41] <darobin> SteveF: I, err, mmm, errr, am not sure I get that metaphor but thanks :)
  50. # [10:41] <darobin> jgraham: proprietary?
  51. # [10:42] <jgraham> Oh is it a self-hosted thing?
  52. # [10:42] <jgraham> I guess that's a bit better
  53. # [10:42] <darobin> jgraham: I'm hosting it
  54. # [10:44] <SteveF> darobin: your mental bone being to reduce barriers to entry for discussion, make it friendlier
  55. # [10:46] <darobin> SteveF: yes, yes, I get the idea, it's just the whole meat, bone, all that which I found dubious :)
  56. # [10:49] <MikeSmith> darobin: "great job putting some calf brain on the dinner table" is what SteveF meant to say
  57. # [10:49] <darobin> rofl
  58. # [10:50] <SteveF> poner más carne en los huesos
  59. # [10:51] <SteveF> oh mikey ever the wag
  60. # [10:57] <wilhelm> jgraham: Mailing lists suck. Actually, email sucks.
  61. # [10:57] * wilhelm exits stage left.
  62. # [11:03] <darobin> email certainly sucks; the whole question is whether we can actually do better (hence experimenting)
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  64. # [11:56] <jgraham> Well email has a bunch of nice properties
  65. # [11:57] <jgraham> Like there exist multiple clients so you can tailor the experience rather than relying on the particular features of one webapp
  66. # [12:12] <darobin> jgraham: I don't disagree on the principle and all that
  67. # [12:12] <darobin> but for some reason all email clients suck
  68. # [12:12] <darobin> really bad
  69. # [12:15] <jgraham> darobin: Less than webapps if you want offline or search or custom filtering though
  70. # [12:15] <darobin> jgraham: it all depends on where the focus is, I completely agree
  71. # [12:15] <darobin> but I reckon that looking for new ways that may lose some useful properties (at first) is interesting
  72. # [12:16] <darobin> otherwise we're just stuck in suck forever
  73. # [12:16] <jgraham> Based on Domenic's post it seems like you can treat this as yet another mailing list with a fancy archive UI
  74. # [12:16] <jgraham> Well assuming it accepts mail
  75. # [12:16] <darobin> you can, if that's how you like it
  76. # [12:16] <jgraham> That seems a good deal more acceptable
  77. # [12:16] <darobin> in fact, it was decisive in my decision to go with this
  78. # [12:16] <darobin> jgraham: you can reply to any message you get by email, it should get posted normally
  79. # [12:16] <darobin> (you can use MD in the body and all)
  80. # [12:17] <darobin> right now I've disabled creating a new topic by email, but I could enable it
  81. # [12:19] <jgraham> Well on the basis that working via email is an option, I just signed up. So enabling that would be useful.
  82. # [12:21] <darobin> jgraham: cool! feel free to guinea pig around
  83. # [12:22] <darobin> jgraham: emailing discourse@specifiction.org should now work (only for users with enough karma, but you do)
  84. # [12:22] <darobin> I have no idea if it works or what it does, but let's find out :)
  85. # [12:24] <jgraham> Thanks!
  86. # [12:25] <jgraham> Seems like it doesn't set the from header to the email address of the sender, or even something install-specific, which is a bit unfortunate
  87. # [12:25] <jgraham> It's just info@discourse.org
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  89. # [13:01] <darobin> mmmm, really?
  90. # [13:01] <darobin> it should be something else
  91. # [13:01] * darobin makes a note to check that
  92. # [13:01] <jgraham> Really :)
  93. # [13:02] <darobin> oh, yes, that's a bug
  94. # [13:02] <jgraham> From: robin <info@discourse.org>
  95. # [13:02] <darobin> there, should be fixed
  96. # [13:02] <darobin> should now be discourse@specifiction.org
  97. # [13:02] <darobin> which is install-specific, at least
  98. # [13:03] <jgraham> Thanks
  99. # [13:03] <darobin> thanks for catching this, I thought I'd set it right but clearly didn't double check
  100. # [13:03] * darobin wishes there were code review for GUI configuration settings
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  149. # [20:27] -gitbot:#html-wg- [syntax] sideshowbarker pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/validator/syntax/commit/d61f2630ed91add9c90508f4edf52f80bb396222
  150. # [20:27] -gitbot:#html-wg- syntax/master d61f263 Michael[tm] Smith: Refined h1 warnings checker.
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  154. # [20:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/ce240bd4ce14b55b9f5327a2b956f2c222ea66d0
  155. # [20:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg ce240bd Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Update reference for pagevis...
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  161. # [21:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg b5cf45a Ian Hickson: [giow] (1) autofill: requestAutocomplete() should not need the form in a Document; section-* should be opaque....
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