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  5. # [01:18] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html-tools] techtoons pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/w3c/html-tools/commit/0ea18fdf2f68dd6760ada66e22f1aa8ec25c8a8d
  6. # [01:18] -gitbot:#html-wg- html-tools/master 0ea18fd Jay Munro: rearranged to match published CR version...
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  60. # [17:13] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/e6044f96bf93b0a2d9a06fee1246633ce9585b29
  61. # [17:13] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/CR e6044f9 Robin Berjon: remove ref to 2616
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  64. # [17:15] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 1 new commit to CR: https://github.com/w3c/html/commit/2d361ad2232b786b2eb83aeb94f81a01a98e1a11
  65. # [17:15] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/CR 2d361ad Robin Berjon: removed example with details/summary
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  68. # [17:31] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html-tools] darobin pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/w3c/html-tools/compare/fe856b6827f8...19d499e9b56f
  69. # [17:31] -gitbot:#html-wg- html-tools/master f722d21 Robin Berjon: add simpler boilerplate for CR
  70. # [17:31] -gitbot:#html-wg- html-tools/master 19d499e Robin Berjon: PR boilerplate
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  76. # [18:01] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  77. # [18:01] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  79. # [18:01] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/08/28-html-wg-irc
  80. # [18:01] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  81. # [18:01] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  83. # [18:01] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  84. # [18:01] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  85. # [18:01] <trackbot> Date: 28 August 2014
  86. # [18:01] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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  91. # [18:04] <paulc> waves
  92. # [18:04] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  93. # [18:04] <Zakim> +??P4
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  95. # [18:04] * plh zakim, call plh-mobile
  96. # [18:04] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  97. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Plh
  98. # [18:04] <janina> zakim, ??P4 is me
  99. # [18:04] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  100. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Sam
  101. # [18:05] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  102. # [18:05] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  103. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Shane_McCarron
  104. # [18:05] <ShaneM> zakim, I am Shane_McCarron
  105. # [18:05] <Zakim> ok, ShaneM, I now associate you with Shane_McCarron
  106. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  107. # [18:05] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  108. # [18:05] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  109. # [18:05] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  110. # [18:05] <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, Plh, Sam, Shane_McCarron, paulc
  111. # [18:05] <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, paulc, jernoble, jaymunro, Zakim, RRSAgent, rubys, dveditz, karl, ShaneM, lgombos, plh, jgraham, glenn, mjs, nicolasbadia, timeless, Josh_Soref___, pdr_,
  112. # [18:05] <Zakim> ... tommorris, tobie, krijnhoetmer, johndrinkwater, heycam|away, gsnedders, paul___irish, gavin_, MikeSmith, MarkS, ed, Philip, Hixie, logbot, slightlyoff, hober, cwilso, cabanier,
  113. # [18:05] <Zakim> ... decadance, mattur_, AAA_awright_, jmb^, krit, trackbot
  114. # [18:06] <Zakim> +glenn
  115. # [18:06] <rubys> plh, you offered to scribe?
  116. # [18:06] * tommorris almost had a heart attack thinking that there was another Social WG telecon this evening, then realised I was in #html-wg too. ;-)
  117. # [18:06] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  118. # [18:06] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
  119. # [18:06] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
  120. # [18:07] <plh> scribenick: plh
  121. # [18:07] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0017.html
  122. # [18:08] <plh> Topic: Action items due by today
  123. # [18:08] <plh> Sam: none
  124. # [18:08] * plh zakim, mute me
  125. # [18:08] * Zakim Plh should now be muted
  126. # [18:08] <plh> Topic: items closing this week
  127. # [18:08] <plh> Sam: None
  128. # [18:08] <plh> Topic: Task Force reports
  129. # [18:08] <plh> Sam: a11y TF
  130. # [18:09] <plh> Janina: we have an agreed way toward a CfC to move to PR for longdesc
  131. # [18:09] <plh> ... a few steps to do
  132. # [18:09] <plh> ... respond to implementors feedback
  133. # [18:09] <plh> ... got a new implementer
  134. # [18:09] <plh> ... and we're addressing the comments
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  136. # [18:10] <plh> ... we'll fold the changes as part of the CfC to move to PR
  137. # [18:10] <plh> ... some of the language may change but it's editorial. it's clarification.
  138. # [18:10] <plh> ... no impact on implementations
  139. # [18:10] <plh> ... I doubt we'll move today
  140. # [18:11] <plh> ... also wondered whether we should respond to the FO on the list or not
  141. # [18:11] <plh> ... decide not to but still need to prepare the call with the Director
  142. # [18:11] <plh> ... this is not a new issue and we're gateful to Apple for bringing it up however
  143. # [18:12] <plh> ... to make sure it received due considerations
  144. # [18:12] <rubys> s/gateful/grateful/
  145. # [18:12] <plh> ... didn't get to the other business
  146. # [18:12] <paulc> EME heartbeat published today: http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-encrypted-media-20140828/
  147. # [18:13] <plh> Paul: EME tf report
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  149. # [18:13] <paulc_> continuing
  150. # [18:13] <plh> Pal: we continue discussing EME bugs
  151. # [18:13] <plh> ... 19 outstanding
  152. # [18:14] <plh> s/Pal/Paul/
  153. # [18:14] <paulc_> http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo EME bugs
  154. # [18:14] <paulc_> MSE CR test suite discussion (Aug 19 TF meeting): http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html#item03
  155. # [18:14] <paulc_> Google MSE submission now accepted: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/725
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  157. # [18:14] <plh> Paul: MSE CR test suite is making progress. Google PR has been approved
  158. # [18:15] <paulc_> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls/shishimaru more MSE tests
  159. # [18:16] <plh> Paul: so bulk of time is on EME. MSE tests in the background.
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  161. # [18:16] <plh> Topic: Canvas TF
  162. # [18:16] <plh> Sam: this is being picked up again
  163. # [18:16] <plh> ... we'll proceed soon
  164. # [18:17] <plh> Topic: Canvas 2D updates
  165. # [18:17] <plh> Sam: both CR and Level 2 were updated
  166. # [18:17] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-2dcontext2-20140828/
  167. # [18:17] <plh> Topic: srcset
  168. # [18:17] <plh> Sam: published as a note. retired.
  169. # [18:18] <plh> Topic: EME hartbeat
  170. # [18:18] <plh> Sam: published today
  171. # [18:18] <plh> Topic: DOm4
  172. # [18:18] <plh> Sam: one outstanding bug
  173. # [18:18] <plh> q+
  174. # [18:18] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  175. # [18:18] <plh> ack plh
  176. # [18:18] * Zakim unmutes Plh
  177. # [18:18] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  178. # [18:19] <plh> Plh: please note http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014JulSep/0352.html
  179. # [18:19] <paulc_> http://w3ctag.github.io/url/
  180. # [18:20] <plh> Paul: timetable?
  181. # [18:20] <plh> Plh: move to LC asap
  182. # [18:20] <plh> Paul should the Group review this?
  183. # [18:20] <plh> Plh: would be helpful
  184. # [18:20] <plh> Paul: ok, will do
  185. # [18:21] * plh zakim, mute me
  186. # [18:21] * Zakim Plh should now be muted
  187. # [18:21] <plh> Topic: Techniques for Providing Useful Text Alternatives
  188. # [18:21] <plh> Sam: we need a new target...
  189. # [18:21] <plh> Janina: mid-September? first priority is longdesc
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  191. # [18:22] <plh> Topic: longdesc
  192. # [18:22] <plh> Sam: covered by Janina earlier
  193. # [18:22] <plh> q+
  194. # [18:22] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  195. # [18:22] <plh> Topic: HTMl5 features at risk
  196. # [18:22] <plh> ack plh
  197. # [18:22] * Zakim unmutes Plh
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  199. # [18:24] <plh> Plh" we
  200. # [18:24] <plh> Plh: we're proposing to drop datacue and DnD from the spec
  201. # [18:24] <plh> ... due to lack of implementations and proper implementations
  202. # [18:25] <plh> Topic: Next meeting
  203. # [18:25] <plh> Sam: scribe?
  204. # [18:25] <plh> Shane: will scribe
  205. # [18:25] <plh> [adjourned]
  206. # [18:25] <Zakim> -glenn
  207. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Shane_McCarron
  208. # [18:26] <Zakim> -janina
  209. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Sam
  210. # [18:26] <plh> zakim, drop plh
  211. # [18:26] <Zakim> Plh is being disconnected
  212. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Plh
  213. # [18:26] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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  217. # [19:17] <paulc_> rrsagent, generate minutes
  218. # [19:17] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/28-html-wg-minutes.html paulc_
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  221. # [19:37] <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, paulc, in HTML_WG()12:00PM
  222. # [19:37] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  223. # [19:37] <Zakim> Attendees were Plh, janina, Sam, Shane_McCarron, paulc, glenn, jaymunro
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  226. # [19:44] <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
  227. # [19:44] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/28-html-wg-minutes.html plh
  228. # [19:45] <plh> Chair: Sam
  229. # [19:45] <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
  230. # [19:45] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/28-html-wg-minutes.html plh
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  250. # [21:49] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 4 new commits to whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/f7cb5306b5f3...7f98e737e04b
  251. # [21:49] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg 8e74b9d Ian Hickson: [giow] (2) Fire 'change' when unselected a video track too....
  252. # [21:49] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg 9d6b6b1 Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Be more precise in the description of the charset='' parameter for the text/html MIME type...
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