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  13. # [01:46] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/fd1d9c091a9a...8f1a7c94d1d5
  14. # [01:46] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg 64dc623 Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Follow URL spec terminology changes...
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  29. # [02:46] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg 6707bed Robin Berjon: Merge remote branch 'origin/master' into whatwg
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  85. # [18:00] <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
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  88. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/09/04-html-wg-irc
  89. # [18:00] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  90. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  92. # [18:01] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  93. # [18:01] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
  94. # [18:01] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  95. # [18:01] <trackbot> Date: 04 September 2014
  96. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, what is the meeting code?
  97. # [18:01] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
  98. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  99. # [18:01] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  100. # [18:01] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  101. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  102. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  103. # [18:01] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  104. # [18:02] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0019.html
  105. # [18:02] <Zakim> +ShaneM
  106. # [18:02] <ShaneM> ScribeNick: ShaneM
  107. # [18:02] <Zakim> +glenn
  108. # [18:02] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  109. # [18:02] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
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  111. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Plh
  112. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Sam
  113. # [18:03] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0019.html
  114. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  115. # [18:03] <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
  116. # [18:03] <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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  119. # [18:03] <janina> zakim, ??P8 is me
  120. # [18:03] <Zakim> +janina; got it
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  122. # [18:04] <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft.a has me
  123. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
  124. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Daniel_Wester
  125. # [18:06] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  126. # [18:06] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, glenn, Plh, Sam, [Microsoft], janina, [Microsoft.a], Daniel_Wester
  127. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has Eliot
  128. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  129. # [18:06] <Zakim> On IRC I see Eliot, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, rubys, jaymunro, Lachy, jernoble, ShaneM, logbot, heycam|away, gavin, ed, paul___irish, Philip, tH, jgraham, AAA_awright, Hixie,
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  133. # [18:06] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  134. # [18:06] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, glenn, Plh, Sam, [Microsoft], janina, [Microsoft.a], Daniel_Wester
  135. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has Eliot
  136. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
  137. # [18:06] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Action Items
  138. # [18:06] <ShaneM> CHAIR: Paul
  139. # [18:06] <ShaneM> No action items due
  140. # [18:06] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Items closing today
  141. # [18:07] <ShaneM> s/today/this week/
  142. # [18:07] <ShaneM> None.
  143. # [18:07] <ShaneM> TOPIC: New calls this week
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  145. # [18:07] <ShaneM> a) CfC: Request transition of HTML5 to Proposed Recommendation closes Mon Sep 8
  146. # [18:07] <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Sep/0000.html
  147. # [18:07] <ShaneM> one person has provided feedback so far. Looking for statements of support or dissent. Please respond to the email.
  148. # [18:08] <ShaneM> CfC closes on Monday, 8 September.
  149. # [18:08] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Publication and CR Status
  150. # [18:08] <ShaneM> a) Canvas2D CR ending no earlier than Sep 9
  151. # [18:08] <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/CR-2dcontext-20140821/
  152. # [18:09] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Sep/0008.html
  153. # [18:09] <ShaneM> Chairs have started studying the canvas task force situation. Sam sent out email about the TF. It will convene on Monday at 6 PM eastern.
  154. # [18:09] <Zakim> +CyrilRa
  155. # [18:09] <Zakim> -Daniel_Wester
  156. # [18:09] <ShaneM> There is a thread on public-canvas-api about testing.
  157. # [18:10] <ShaneM> b) DOM4 Last Call ended Jul 31
  158. # [18:10] <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-dom-20140710/
  159. # [18:10] <plh> q+
  160. # [18:10] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  161. # [18:10] <ShaneM> There is an outstanding bug (24918) on the reference to the URL spec. The spec was recently assigned to the webapps working group to progress it.
  162. # [18:10] <ShaneM> ack p
  163. # [18:10] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  164. # [18:10] <ShaneM> plh: the editor is considering the feedback from last week. More progress will be made next week.
  165. # [18:11] <plh> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/1227
  166. # [18:11] <ShaneM> ... the other thing we are lacking is some tests. execution of the tests is pretty good. need to validate results. Should no longer be a blocked.
  167. # [18:11] <ShaneM> s/blocked/blocker/
  168. # [18:12] <ShaneM> That was the only area where we were thought to be deficient in the area of test coverage.
  169. # [18:12] <plh> http://w3c.github.io/test-results/dom/less-than-2.html
  170. # [18:13] <paulc> [4] http://w3c.github.io/test-results/dom/details.html
  171. # [18:14] <ShaneM> plh: there was a change done to reintroduce the named node map. not sure Robin has figured out what he wants to do with that change.
  172. # [18:14] <ShaneM> paulc: was there a bug related to this?
  173. # [18:14] <ShaneM> plh: not immediately available.
  174. # [18:15] <ShaneM> plh: It would be bad news if we decide to reintroduce it. Putting it in would require a return to last call.
  175. # [18:15] <rubys> q+ to ask why this couldn't wait until the next version of the DOM spec?
  176. # [18:15] * Zakim sees rubys on the speaker queue
  177. # [18:15] <paulc> ack rubys
  178. # [18:15] <Zakim> rubys, you wanted to ask why this couldn't wait until the next version of the DOM spec?
  179. # [18:15] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  180. # [18:15] <Zakim> -ShaneM
  181. # [18:16] <ShaneM> rubys: can this wait until the next release?
  182. # [18:16] * ShaneM coming back
  183. # [18:16] <Zakim> +ShaneM
  184. # [18:16] <ShaneM> plh: maybe but we haven't heard from Robin about it yet.
  185. # [18:16] <paulc> plh: We are not sure how to answer Sam's question
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  187. # [18:16] <ShaneM> c) Publication of "Techniques for Providing Useful Text Alternatives" as a WG Note
  188. # [18:17] <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
  189. # [18:17] <ShaneM> paulc: we last week set a target of mid September to publish. We assume it will be taken up at the 11 Sep A11Y Task Force meeting.
  190. # [18:17] <ShaneM> d) Longdesc progression to CR
  191. # [18:17] <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Sep/0000.html
  192. # [18:18] <ShaneM> janina: Should have a CfC within the next day.
  193. # [18:18] <ShaneM> ... might make an additional editorial change since the A11Y task force agreed it was okay.
  194. # [18:19] <ShaneM> ... Need the PR version of the spec for the CfC.
  195. # [18:19] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Future Meetings
  196. # [18:19] <ShaneM> a) Extensible Web Summit, Berlin, Sep 11
  197. # [18:19] <ShaneM> http://lanyrd.com/2014/extwebsummit-berlin/
  198. # [18:20] <ShaneM> paulc: some lightning talks in the first hour. sponsored partially by the TAG.
  199. # [18:20] <ShaneM> b) HTML WG F2F and TPAC, Oct 30-31
  200. # [18:20] <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/
  201. # [18:20] <ShaneM> HTMLWG is meeting thursday and friday
  202. # [18:21] <ShaneM> came up with 5 or 6 topics that we might want to talk about from an A11Y perspective.
  203. # [18:21] <ShaneM> Need to get a Wiki set up to ask for nomination of topics.
  204. # [18:21] <ShaneM> Might want to meet with not only A11Y experts, but also SVG experts.
  205. # [18:23] <paulc> A11Y TF discussion of topics: http://www.w3.org/2014/09/04-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
  206. # [18:23] * plh minutes from last week sent
  207. # [18:23] * ShaneM oooh
  208. # [18:23] <ShaneM> Janina and Paulc will make sure it is set up.
  209. # [18:24] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Any other business
  210. # [18:24] <ShaneM> None...
  211. # [18:25] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeing
  212. # [18:25] <ShaneM> s/meeing/meeting/
  213. # [18:25] <ShaneM> Sam will chair next week.
  214. # [18:25] <ShaneM> If no one else volunteers, then paulc will scribe.
  215. # [18:25] <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
  216. # [18:25] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/04-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
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  221. # [18:25] <Zakim> -CyrilRa
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  223. # [18:25] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  224. # [18:25] <Zakim> -paulc
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  229. # [18:26] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  230. # [18:26] <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, ShaneM, glenn, Plh, Sam, jaymunro, janina, [Microsoft], Eliot, Daniel_Wester, CyrilRa
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  282. # [23:46] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 4 new commits to whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/6707bede9b59...7d7e72239180
  283. # [23:46] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg 60dfc61 Ian Hickson: [e] (0) Make use of the DOM spec's 'node document' concept. I sure would appreciate careful review of this diff, since it is quite likely that I made some mistakes....
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