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  67. # [16:58] <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
  68. # [16:58] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  70. # [16:58] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-wg-irc
  71. # [16:58] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  72. # [16:58] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  74. # [16:58] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  75. # [16:58] <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
  76. # [16:58] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  77. # [16:58] <trackbot> Date: 09 October 2014
  78. # [16:59] <paulc> zakim, list conferences
  79. # [16:59] <Zakim> I see WAI_MATF()11:00AM, MM_MMI(EMMA)10:00AM, WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM, Team_(digpub)14:29Z, SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM active
  80. # [16:59] <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are Team_Global(review)8:00AM, XML_XSLWG()11:00AM, WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM, SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, Team_(er)14:00Z, Math_IG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM,
  81. # [16:59] <Zakim> ... I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM, DIG_weekly()10:00AM, UW_DAP()10:00AM, XML_QueryWG(XSLT)11:00AM
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  92. # [18:00] <paulc_> trackbot, start meeting
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  94. # [18:00] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  95. # [18:00] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  96. # [18:00] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  97. # [18:00] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start now
  98. # [18:00] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  99. # [18:00] <trackbot> Date: 09 October 2014
  100. # [18:00] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  101. # [18:00] <paulc_> zakim, what is the meeting code?
  102. # [18:00] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc_.
  103. # [18:00] <Zakim> +??P3
  104. # [18:00] <janina> zakim, ??P3 is me
  105. # [18:00] <Zakim> +janina; got it
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  107. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Sam
  108. # [18:01] <paulc_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0001.html
  109. # [18:01] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  110. # [18:01] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
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  112. # [18:01] <Zakim> +ShaneM
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  115. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  117. # [18:01] <paulc_> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  118. # [18:01] <Zakim> +paulc_; got it
  119. # [18:02] <paulc_> zakim, who is on the phone?
  120. # [18:02] <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, Sam, ShaneM, Plh, [IPcaller], paulc_
  121. # [18:02] <gregDavis> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
  122. # [18:02] <Zakim> +gregDavis; got it
  123. # [18:02] <ShaneM> Scribe: ShaneM
  124. # [18:02] <paulc_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0001.html
  125. # [18:03] <paulc_> Scribenick: ShaneM
  126. # [18:03] <paulc_> Chair: paulc_
  127. # [18:04] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Action items due today
  128. # [18:04] <ShaneM> none
  129. # [18:04] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Items closing this week
  130. # [18:04] <ShaneM> none
  131. # [18:04] <ShaneM> TOPIC: New Calls this week
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  133. # [18:04] <ShaneM> a) CfC: Request transition of DOM4 to Proposed Recommendation
  134. # [18:04] <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Oct/0013.html
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  136. # [18:05] <paulc_> See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Oct/0000.html
  137. # [18:05] <ShaneM> plh: Boris noted that some of the statements in the spec dont match reality. Flagged two.
  138. # [18:05] <ShaneM> ... should probably do a deeper analysis of the tests that are failing on all the implementations.
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  140. # [18:06] <ShaneM> ... the first one he caught is a clear item where the spec needs to change.
  141. # [18:06] <ShaneM> ... 103 tests are failing. Mostly related to WebIDL. Are going to need time for further investigation.
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  143. # [18:06] <ShaneM> PC: Has a bug been filed?
  144. # [18:06] <ShaneM> PLH: I don't know - Robin has been working on it.
  145. # [18:07] <ShaneM> PC: When we get to the end of the CfC we are going to need that data to report back to the group.
  146. # [18:07] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Draft [URL] reference update to informative text
  147. # [18:07] <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Oct/0002.html
  148. # [18:07] <ShaneM> A few responses. Caused a couple of changes to the proposed text.
  149. # [18:07] <paulc_> Proposed text is at: http://dev.w3.org/html5/2014/10/url-ref.html
  150. # [18:08] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
  151. # [18:08] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Accessibility Task Force Report
  152. # [18:08] <ShaneM> janina: There is a draft longdesc decision floating around W3M.
  153. # [18:09] <ShaneM> ... once that is out we will be able to decide how to unblock the alt note.
  154. # [18:09] <ShaneM> ... there was a long discussion about it in the A11Y Task Force meeting today. See the minutes for details.
  155. # [18:09] <ShaneM> ... Basically there are changes needed whichever way the decision goes. There will be bugs filed against the alt document once the decision is ready.
  156. # [18:10] <ShaneM> s/decision/longdesc decision/
  157. # [18:10] <ShaneM> ... lots of A11Y discussions at TPAC. See the minutes for details.
  158. # [18:10] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Media Task Force
  159. # [18:10] <paulc_> Media TF minutes: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/07-html-media-minutes.html
  160. # [18:11] <ShaneM> Spend 90% of the time processing EME bugs.
  161. # [18:11] <paulc_> http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo for open EME bugs
  162. # [18:11] <ShaneM> s/Spend/Spent/
  163. # [18:11] <ShaneM> There are about 19 or 20 bugs.
  164. # [18:11] <ShaneM> There are 3 or 4 significant areas that are blocking the rest of the issues.
  165. # [18:12] <paulc_> Media TF has asked for Fri morning at the TPAC F2F meeting
  166. # [18:12] <ShaneM> ... converting the spec to ReSpec format.
  167. # [18:12] <ShaneM> q+ to ask about the respec conversion
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  169. # [18:12] <ShaneM> q-
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  172. # [18:13] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Canvas Task Force
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  174. # [18:13] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014JulSep/0039.html
  175. # [18:14] <rubys> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Canvas_Task_Force/CR-Test
  176. # [18:14] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014OctDec/0010.html
  177. # [18:14] <ShaneM> rubys: test results. plan is to have all the tests run at least once by tomorrow. Not a lot of progress so far so it is possible that date will be missed.
  178. # [18:14] <Zakim> -ShaneM
  179. # [18:14] <ShaneM> ... next meeting is tomorrow. Anyone interested should join!
  180. # [18:15] <Zakim> +ShaneM
  181. # [18:15] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Any other business
  182. # [18:15] <ShaneM> a) Longdesc CR
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  184. # [18:15] <paulc_> See http://www.w3.org/2014/09/18-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
  185. # [18:16] <ShaneM> janina: heard that there may be a decision forthcoming.
  186. # [18:16] <ShaneM> ... implementation report ready. PR version of the spec is ready. If the decision goes in favor of the spec, we are ready to put out the CfC request to proceed to PR.
  187. # [18:17] <ShaneM> b) Text alternatives
  188. # [18:17] <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Oct/0015.html
  189. # [18:17] <ShaneM> This is effectively blocked until the longdesc decision is complete. Whichever way the decision goes some tweak will be needed.
  190. # [18:18] <SteveF> am here to respond to any questions on alt doc
  191. # [18:18] <paulc_> FTR see the A11Y TF discussions today on text alternatives: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-a11y-minutes.html
  192. # [18:19] <paulc_> SteveF: get in touch with me if you want re text alternatives status
  193. # [18:19] <janina> The Proposed Recommendation (PR) draft is available at:
  194. # [18:19] <janina> http://www.w3.org/2014/09/04-PR-html-longdesc/
  195. # [18:19] <janina> Our Implementation Report for this specification showing that it meets
  196. # [18:19] <janina> W3C recommendation requirements is available at:
  197. # [18:19] <janina> http://w3c.github.io/test-results/html-longdesc/cr-report.html
  198. # [18:20] <ShaneM> TOPIC: HTML WG F2F and TPAC, Oct 30-31
  199. # [18:20] <paulc_> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda
  200. # [18:20] <paulc_> See https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda#Day_1
  201. # [18:20] <ShaneM> Agenda is getting locked down because of required time coordination with other groups.
  202. # [18:20] <SteveF> paulc_: will do, would like to point out a number of incorrect statements made in todays taskforce meet
  203. # [18:20] <ShaneM> ... try to do the A11Y stuff on Thursday morning.
  204. # [18:21] <ShaneM> ... Joint session with dPub, CSS, A11Y and HTML on thursday afternoon.
  205. # [18:21] <ShaneM> ... Media TF has asked for a slot Friday morning.
  206. # [18:22] <ShaneM> janina: not aware that CSS is going to be part of that meeting. They are sending some people, not the whole group.
  207. # [18:22] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeting
  208. # [18:22] <paulc_> rrsagent, generate the minutes
  209. # [18:22] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-wg-minutes.html paulc_
  210. # [18:22] <ShaneM> Next meeting is 16 October. Sam will chair.
  211. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Sam
  212. # [18:23] <Zakim> -gregDavis
  213. # [18:23] <ShaneM> Adjourned.
  214. # [18:23] <Zakim> -paulc_
  215. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Plh
  216. # [18:23] <Zakim> -janina
  217. # [18:23] <Zakim> -ShaneM
  218. # [18:23] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  219. # [18:23] <Zakim> Attendees were janina, Sam, Plh, ShaneM, paulc_, gregDavis
  220. # [18:23] <ShaneM> rrsagent. make minutes
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  222. # [18:24] <ShaneM> s/rrsagent. make minutes//
  223. # [18:24] <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
  224. # [18:24] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/09-html-wg-minutes.html ShaneM
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