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  76. # [17:37] <plh> SteveF?
  77. # [17:37] <SteveF> yes
  78. # [17:37] <plh> any reason why you don't put your images centered in alt-techniques?
  79. # [17:38] <plh> no big deal, it's just bugging me :)
  80. # [17:38] <SteveF> no reason
  81. # [17:38] <plh> ok, I'll send you a PR then
  82. # [17:38] <SteveF> file a bug :-)
  83. # [17:38] <plh> I don't file bug, I file fixes :)
  84. # [17:38] <SteveF> or PR :-0
  85. # [17:43] <plh> actually, that was a bad idea
  86. # [17:43] <plh> I won't touch it
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  89. # [17:58] <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
  90. # [17:58] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  92. # [17:58] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/10/16-html-wg-irc
  93. # [17:58] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  94. # [17:58] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  96. # [17:58] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  97. # [17:58] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  98. # [17:58] <trackbot> Date: 16 October 2014
  99. # [17:58] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
  100. # [17:59] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0004.html
  101. # [17:59] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  102. # [17:59] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  103. # [18:00] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  104. # [18:00] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  105. # [18:00] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  106. # [18:00] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  107. # [18:01] <paulc> Chair: Sam Ruby
  108. # [18:01] <paulc> Scribenick: paulc
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  111. # [18:01] <Zakim> +??P12
  112. # [18:02] <janina> zakim, ??P12 is me
  113. # [18:02] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  114. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Sam
  115. # [18:02] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  116. # [18:02] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  117. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Plh
  118. # [18:03] <paulc> I wonder what number you need to call to get "plh-play"?
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  120. # [18:03] <rubys> zakim, who is on the phone?
  121. # [18:03] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, janina, Sam, Plh
  122. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  123. # [18:04] <gregDavis> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
  124. # [18:04] <Zakim> +gregDavis; got it
  125. # [18:04] <paulc> Scribe: paulc
  126. # [18:05] <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
  127. # [18:05] <paulc> Topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, October 16
  128. # [18:05] <paulc> None
  129. # [18:05] <paulc> Topic: CfC: Request transition of DOM4 to Proposed Recommendation
  130. # [18:06] <paulc> The CfC failed with an objection and there are two bugs being worked on.
  131. # [18:06] <paulc> See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Oct/0066.html
  132. # [18:06] <paulc> Topic: Draft [URL] reference update to informative text
  133. # [18:06] <paulc> Four minor changes were made and discussion has died down.
  134. # [18:07] <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Oct/0023.html
  135. # [18:07] <paulc> Topic: longdesc CR
  136. # [18:07] <paulc> Janina: no news from the Director on the Apple Formal Objection decision
  137. # [18:07] <paulc> Janina: We are still waiting.
  138. # [18:07] <paulc> Topic: Text alternatives request for heartbeat referred to task force
  139. # [18:08] <paulc> janina: The TF discussed this today and we expect the document will be published on Thu Oct 23.
  140. # [18:08] <paulc> ... TF and PF WG will do a CfC on the candidate document
  141. # [18:08] <paulc> Sam: Excellent plan
  142. # [18:09] <paulc> See TF minutes at http://www.w3.org/2014/10/16-html-a11y-minutes.html#item04
  143. # [18:09] <paulc> Topic: HTML WG F2F and TPAC, Oct 30-31
  144. # [18:09] <paulc> Sam: Reminder that we will be meeting F2F on Thu-Fri Oct 30-31
  145. # [18:10] <paulc> Paul: Registration may be possible but some groups are very over booked.
  146. # [18:10] <paulc> plh: There are over 500 registrants
  147. # [18:11] <paulc> ... When the registration closed it was at 499 and plh made it 500 ;<)
  148. # [18:12] <paulc> paulc: We are still receiving very late observer requests
  149. # [18:12] <paulc> paulc: here is the message I sent to the 50 observers: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2014Oct/0003.html
  150. # [18:13] <paulc> ... observer seats will be FCFS
  151. # [18:13] <paulc> ... Paul and Janina will coordinate seats for the joint meetings
  152. # [18:13] <Zakim> +??P20
  153. # [18:13] <tantek> Zakim, ??P20 is me
  154. # [18:13] <Zakim> +tantek; got it
  155. # [18:13] <paulc> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-10-Agenda
  156. # [18:13] <tantek> Regrets for the TPAC f2f meeting
  157. # [18:14] <tantek> I will be in AB/AC meetings :/
  158. # [18:14] <paulc> Topic: Future meetings
  159. # [18:14] <paulc> Sam: No telecon next week (October 23nd), or during TPAC (October 30).
  160. # [18:14] <tantek> aside: Thanks for the work on http://dev.w3.org/html5/2014/10/url-ref.html
  161. # [18:15] <tantek> it does seem like an improvement - per what I brought up a few weeks ago
  162. # [18:15] <paulc> ... we'll likely not have a meeting the week after TPAC (November 6) and will meet next on Thu Nov 13
  163. # [18:15] <paulc> paulc: Be aware of DST changes in November
  164. # [18:16] <paulc> Janina: Europer changes off DST the week before TPAC
  165. # [18:17] <paulc> Paul: This will impact the start time of the F2F meeting in Europe for remote participants
  166. # [18:17] <paulc> Paul: I will add the timeandate.com information to the F2F Agenda
  167. # [18:18] <paulc> Topic: Adjournment
  168. # [18:18] <Zakim> -Plh
  169. # [18:18] <paulc> Meeting was adjounred at :17. See everyone at TPAC.
  170. # [18:18] <Zakim> -Sam
  171. # [18:18] <Zakim> -tantek
  172. # [18:18] <Zakim> -janina
  173. # [18:18] <Zakim> -gregDavis
  174. # [18:18] <paulc> rrsagent, generate minutes
  175. # [18:18] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/10/16-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
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  177. # [18:18] <Zakim> -paulc
  178. # [18:18] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  179. # [18:18] <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, janina, Sam, Plh, gregDavis, tantek
  180. # [18:19] <rubys> tantek: by "-per what I brought up", did you mean "-over what I brought up"?
  181. # [18:19] <tantek> rubys: I meant on the topic of what I brought up
  182. # [18:20] <tantek> linking to the live URL spec does seem better than the static snapshot since there are still changes / fixes that need to be made, per all the research/tests you posted about
  183. # [18:21] <tantek> This I found a bit funny though:
  184. # [18:21] <tantek> "Most of the URL-related terms used in the HTML specification (URL, absolute URL, relative URL, relative schemes, scheme component, scheme data, username, password, host, port, path, query, fragment, percent encode, get the base, and UTF-8 percent encode) can be straightforwardly mapped to the terminology of [RFC3986] and [RFC3987]."
  185. # [18:21] <rubys> that link is indeed in the recommendation. I'll note that Mozilla's official feedback to the AC was different than this.
  186. # [18:21] <tantek> per my own research about that http://tantek.com/2011/238/b1/many-ways-slice-url-name-pieces#ud
  187. # [18:21] <rubys> tantek: funny?
  188. # [18:22] <tantek> as in - I do not find it to be "straightforwardly"
  189. # [18:22] <tantek> that reminds me that I need to add a row to that table for the URL spec
  190. # [18:23] <rubys> In many cases, the URL spec uses both sets of terms (DOM like and IETF like)
  191. # [18:23] <rubys> As a concrete example, you will find both scheme and protocol in the URL Standard.
  192. # [18:25] * cwilso_ is now known as cwilso
  193. # [18:26] <tantek> indeed - I had a long discussion with annevk about that early on.
  194. # [18:26] <tantek> he's quite aware of my blog post on the subject
  195. # [18:33] <rubys> BTW, my latest results include nodejs and rust-url, and more accurate data on IE: http://intertwingly.net/stories/2014/10/16/urltest-results/
  196. # [18:35] <rubys> And resulted in multiple bugs being field against ie, one such example: https://twitter.com/annevk/status/522762335774330881
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  198. # [18:37] <tantek> awesome - nicely done
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