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  100. # [17:59] <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
  101. # [17:59] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  103. # [17:59] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-html-wg-irc
  104. # [17:59] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  105. # [17:59] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  107. # [17:59] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  108. # [17:59] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
  109. # [17:59] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  110. # [17:59] <trackbot> Date: 13 November 2014
  111. # [17:59] <paulc> zakim, what is the meeting code?
  112. # [17:59] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
  113. # [17:59] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  114. # [17:59] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
  115. # [18:00] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  116. # [18:00] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  117. # [18:00] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  118. # [18:00] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  119. # [18:00] <Titi_Alone> how does it work?
  120. # [18:00] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0007.html
  121. # [18:01] * ShaneM is still in A11Y TF. coming over soon
  122. # [18:02] <paulc> Thanks, ShaneM
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  125. # [18:02] <Zakim> +ShaneM
  126. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  127. # [18:03] <ShaneM> ScribeNick: ShaneM
  128. # [18:03] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0007.html
  129. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
  130. # [18:03] <LJWatson> zakim, who is on the phone?
  131. # [18:03] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a]
  132. # [18:04] <ShaneM> Chair: paulc
  133. # [18:04] <gregDavis> zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
  134. # [18:04] <Zakim> +gregDavis; got it
  135. # [18:04] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Action Items
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  137. # [18:04] <LJWatson> zakim, [IPcaller] is LJWatson
  138. # [18:04] <Zakim> +LJWatson; got it
  139. # [18:06] <ShaneM> ACTION-249?
  140. # [18:06] * trackbot is looking up ACTION-249.
  141. # [18:06] <trackbot> ACTION-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2014-11-06 -- OPEN
  142. # [18:06] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
  143. # [18:07] <Zakim> +??P0
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  145. # [18:07] <ShaneM> In Progress - we need an updated due date. Paul will work to get that.
  146. # [18:07] <ShaneM> ACTION-250?
  147. # [18:07] * trackbot is looking up ACTION-250.
  148. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-250 -- Paul Cotton to Prepare cfc concerning moving dom4 to the new process -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
  149. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/250
  150. # [18:07] <paulc> Since DOM4 is currently in Last Call, I don't think this CfC is required.
  151. # [18:07] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
  152. # [18:07] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, ShaneM, LJWatson, gregDavis, ??P0
  153. # [18:07] <janina> zakim, ??P0 is me
  154. # [18:07] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  155. # [18:08] <janina>
  156. # [18:08] <ShaneM> The discussion at the f2f about moving to the new process was not relevant. The document is current in last call.
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  158. # [18:08] <ShaneM> ... the CfC was to take it straight to PR. We don't need the new process because we were not in CR.
  159. # [18:09] <ShaneM> ... we can still potentially skip CR and go to PR assuming the tests work and we can demonstrate interoperability.
  160. # [18:09] <ShaneM> ... will report on this to the mailing list.
  161. # [18:09] <ShaneM> ACTION-251?
  162. # [18:09] * trackbot is looking up ACTION-251.
  163. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-251 -- Paul Cotton to Contact public identifiers and form http extension proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the specs -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
  164. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/251
  165. # [18:09] <paulc> Re: public identifiers and form http extension
  166. # [18:10] <ShaneM> There are two threads on this on the mailing list. Starting at messages 38 and 39 respectively.
  167. # [18:10] <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0038.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0039.html
  168. # [18:10] <ShaneM> One of the proponents is withdrawing the public identifier extension spec. Figuring out how to proceed.
  169. # [18:10] <ShaneM> ACTION-252?
  170. # [18:10] * trackbot is looking up ACTION-252.
  171. # [18:10] <trackbot> ACTION-252 -- Paul Cotton to - contact polyglot proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the spec -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
  172. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252
  173. # [18:10] <ShaneM> In progress.
  174. # [18:11] <ShaneM> ACTION-253?
  175. # [18:11] * trackbot is looking up ACTION-253.
  176. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
  177. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
  178. # [18:11] <ShaneM> Status unknown.
  179. # [18:11] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Decisions this week
  180. # [18:11] <ShaneM> a) WG Decision: Request transition of Image Description Extension (longdesc) to Proposed Recommendation
  181. # [18:11] <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0025.html
  182. # [18:12] <ShaneM> transition request has been sent to the director. Waiting to schedule a meeting. Unclear if it will happen before the Thanksgiving break.
  183. # [18:12] <ShaneM> b) WG Decision: CfC: publish HTML5 Differences from HTML4 document as a WG Note
  184. # [18:12] <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Nov/0026.html
  185. # [18:12] <Zakim> +??P8
  186. # [18:12] <tantek> zakim, ??p8 is me
  187. # [18:12] <Zakim> +tantek; got it
  188. # [18:12] <tantek> zakim, mute me
  189. # [18:12] <Zakim> tantek should now be muted
  190. # [18:13] <ShaneM> Should be published early next week.
  191. # [18:13] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Items Closing this week
  192. # [18:13] <ShaneM> None.
  193. # [18:13] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
  194. # [18:13] <ShaneM> a) Accessibility Task Force
  195. # [18:13] <ShaneM> JS: looking at additional issues to take up in next round of HTML development.
  196. # [18:14] <ShaneM> ... discussed accesskey today. other topics coming up are from digital publishing and testing communities. use cases and requirements are expected.
  197. # [18:14] <ShaneM> ... will have things in hand in time for a Paris meeting should there be one.
  198. # [18:15] <ShaneM> ... Also got comments on the MAUG document from the EO group. Media subteam will start meeting again on Monday to process EOs comments.
  199. # [18:15] <ShaneM> ... and other public comments we received after last heartbeat.
  200. # [18:15] <ShaneM> b) Media Task Force
  201. # [18:16] <ShaneM> F2F minutes show that we spent most of Friday morning on EME and MSE.
  202. # [18:16] <ShaneM> ... lots of action items raised. We are working through those actions.
  203. # [18:16] <ShaneM> ... 3 or 4 of the most substantial bug comments on EME came from the TAG about privacy and security issues.
  204. # [18:17] <ShaneM> ... 4 or 5 additional bugs filed. Henri Sivonen followed up with some concrete proposals.
  205. # [18:17] <ShaneM> ... before F2F we were at 20 bugs. Now we are at 30. not as bad as it sounds, since some have proposed solutions.
  206. # [18:18] <ShaneM> Group is trying to work out its scheduling for the remainder of the year.
  207. # [18:18] <ShaneM> A volunteer came forth at the F2F who will help with MSE testing. Trying to help get that person up to speed.
  208. # [18:18] <ShaneM> c) Canvas Task Force
  209. # [18:19] <ShaneM> PC: Mark Sadeki has file a couple of bugs that describe material that is missing from the CR.
  210. # [18:19] <ShaneM> ... discussion about how to make the changes. Task Force continues developing tests and collecting results.
  211. # [18:20] <ShaneM> ... Additional action out of the F2F is to figure out how to move Canvas to the new process, since it is already in CR.
  212. # [18:20] <tantek> +1 on switching Canvas Level 1 to new process (LCCR)
  213. # [18:21] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Any other business
  214. # [18:21] <paulc> http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-html-wg-minutes.html#item52
  215. # [18:21] <ShaneM> a) HTML WG F2F, Spring 2015
  216. # [18:21] <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014OctDec/0328.html
  217. # [18:21] <ShaneM> PC: Working with Telecom University in Paris. Looking at the week after the AC meeting in Paris.
  218. # [18:22] <ShaneM> ... up in the air until we get sponsor commitments.
  219. # [18:22] <tantek> q
  220. # [18:22] <tantek> q+
  221. # [18:22] * Zakim sees tantek on the speaker queue
  222. # [18:22] <ShaneM> ... TPAC at the end of next year is in Japan. Having a meeting in Europe seems like a reasonable pattern since we were in China and then in the US.
  223. # [18:23] <tantek> Zakim, unmute me
  224. # [18:23] <Zakim> tantek should no longer be muted
  225. # [18:23] <ShaneM> tantek: A prefer end of April before the AC/AB meeting rather than after the meeting.
  226. # [18:24] <ShaneM> PC: May 1 is a holiday in France - that has an effect on the decision.
  227. # [18:25] <ShaneM> ... also academic institutions might have more space for us during their breaks, which might also be why after was being considered.
  228. # [18:25] <ShaneM> ... but I will take your position to the group.
  229. # [18:25] <ShaneM> tantek: has anyone started a doodle?
  230. # [18:26] <ShaneM> PC: No - we wait until we have a firm location so that people have a more concrete thing to vote upon.
  231. # [18:26] <ShaneM> ... we are doing it one step at a time. Once we declare a meeting other groups tend to attach themselves to our "train" so we need to take that into consideration as well.
  232. # [18:27] <ShaneM> ... but we will go to the working groups with some sort of poll or survey once we have a good idea of the location and potential schedule.
  233. # [18:27] <paulc> ;<)
  234. # [18:27] <tantek> zakim, mute me
  235. # [18:27] <Zakim> tantek should now be muted
  236. # [18:28] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Next Meeting
  237. # [18:28] <ShaneM> Sam will chair the next meeting.
  238. # [18:28] <ShaneM> No scribe volunteers.
  239. # [18:28] <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
  240. # [18:28] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-html-wg-minutes.html ShaneM
  241. # [18:28] <tantek> bye!
  242. # [18:28] <Zakim> -LJWatson
  243. # [18:28] <Zakim> -janina
  244. # [18:28] <Zakim> -gregDavis
  245. # [18:28] <Zakim> -ShaneM
  246. # [18:28] <Zakim> -tantek
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  249. # [18:29] <ShaneM> zakim, who is here?
  250. # [18:29] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc
  251. # [18:29] <Zakim> On IRC I see LJWatson, Zakim, RRSAgent, Titi_Alone, paulc, tantek, ShaneM, SteveF_, wooglae, MarkS, anssik, danbri, mjs, MikeSmith, [Beta], nicolasbadia, rniwa, jgraham, Philip,
  252. # [18:29] <Zakim> ... gsnedders, ed, decadance, jmb, gavin, Hixie, pdr, krit, tobie, slightlyoff, hober, paul___irish, mattur_, panzana`, wilhelm, krijnhoetmer_, tommorris, Domenic, mihnea_____,
  253. # [18:29] <Zakim> ... cwilso, cabanier, timeless, stryx`, AAA_awright, logbot, heycam|away, xiaoqian, wseltzer, trackbot
  254. # [18:29] <ShaneM> zakim, drop paulc
  255. # [18:29] <Zakim> paulc is being disconnected
  256. # [18:29] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  257. # [18:29] <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, ShaneM, gregDavis, LJWatson, janina, tantek
  258. # [18:29] <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
  259. # [18:29] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/13-html-wg-minutes.html ShaneM
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  275. # [20:30] * Zakim excuses himself; his presence no longer seems to be needed
  276. # [20:30] * Parts: Zakim (zakim@public.cloak) (Zakim)
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  291. # [22:49] * heycam|away is now known as heycam
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  294. # Session Close: Fri Nov 14 00:00:00 2014

The end :)