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  1. # Session Start: Thu Jan 08 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
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  12. # [02:25] <MikeSmith> quiet please you're disturbing the bots
  13. # [02:26] <MikeSmith> plus, see the topic
  14. # [02:27] <tantek> so last year
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  16. # [02:36] <MikeSmith> I think it's an expression of a state of mind
  17. # [02:36] <MikeSmith> kind of like, if I say to somebody, "TPAC 2008!"
  18. # [02:36] <MikeSmith> and then they can, no man, 2011!
  19. # [02:37] <MikeSmith> and I laugh and say, Yeah, fair enough, you're right as usual
  20. # [02:44] <tantek> Is that like, XTech 2007!
  21. # [03:17] <ShaneM> nerds. the two of you.
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  39. # [06:27] * Topic is 'TPAC 2014'
  40. # [06:27] * Set by rubys on Thu Oct 30 16:42:20
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  91. # [17:54] <paulc> trackbot, start meeting
  92. # [17:54] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  94. # [17:54] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-wg-irc
  95. # [17:54] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  96. # [17:54] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  98. # [17:54] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  99. # [17:54] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
  100. # [17:54] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  101. # [17:54] <trackbot> Date: 08 January 2015
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  103. # [17:59] <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
  104. # [17:59] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
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  106. # [17:59] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  107. # [18:00] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  108. # [18:00] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
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  110. # [18:00] * darobin still in another telcon, will be a few minutes late
  111. # [18:00] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  112. # [18:00] <Zakim> +??P8
  113. # [18:00] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is paulc
  114. # [18:00] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  115. # [18:00] <tantek> zakim, ??p8 is me
  116. # [18:00] <Zakim> +tantek; got it
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  118. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Sam
  119. # [18:00] <Zakim> +??P11
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  121. # [18:00] <janina> zakim, ??P11 is me
  122. # [18:00] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  123. # [18:00] <tantek> zakim, mute me
  124. # [18:00] <Zakim> tantek should now be muted
  125. # [18:00] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015JanMar/0002.html
  126. # [18:00] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  127. # [18:00] <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
  128. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  129. # [18:01] <tantek> /topic http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015JanMar/0002.html
  130. # [18:01] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, tantek (muted), Sam, janina
  131. # [18:01] <Zakim> On IRC I see benjamp, janina, rubys, tantek, LJWatson, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, plh, thinkxl, AAA_awright, danbri, glenn, Lachy, logbot, IanPouncey, darobin, edburns, jgraham,
  132. # [18:01] <Zakim> ... decadance, krijnhoetmer, MikeSmith, stryx`, MarkS, nikos, paul___irish, panzana`, johndrinkwater, gavin, adrianba, slightlyoff, gsnedders, plinss, mihnea_____, mattur,
  133. # [18:01] <Zakim> ... cabanier, Domenic, cwilso, tobie, timeless, tommorris, ed, heycam|away, hober, pdr, krit, Philip, jmb, Hixie, xiaoqian, wseltzer, trackbot
  134. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Philippe
  135. # [18:01] * tantek changes topic to 'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015JanMar/0002.html'
  136. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
  137. # [18:01] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, tantek (muted), Sam, janina, Philippe
  138. # [18:01] <plh> scribe: plh
  139. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  140. # [18:01] <paulc> Chair: paulc
  141. # [18:01] <benjamp> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  142. # [18:01] <Zakim> +benjamp; got it
  143. # [18:02] <paulc> Regrets from Shane McCarron
  144. # [18:02] <plh> agenda+ Open actions
  145. # [18:02] * Zakim notes agendum 1 added
  146. # [18:02] <plh> agenda+ Spring f2f Update
  147. # [18:02] * Zakim notes agendum 2 added
  148. # [18:02] <plh> agenda+ AOB
  149. # [18:02] * Zakim notes agendum 3 added
  150. # [18:02] <plh> agenda+ Next meeting
  151. # [18:02] * Zakim notes agendum 4 added
  152. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  153. # [18:03] <LJWatson> zakim, who is one the phone?
  154. # [18:03] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, LJWatson.
  155. # [18:03] <LJWatson> zakim, who is on the phone?
  156. # [18:03] <Zakim> On the phone I see paulc, tantek (muted), Sam, janina, Philippe, benjamp, [IPcaller]
  157. # [18:04] <LJWatson> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
  158. # [18:04] <Zakim> +LJWatson; got it
  159. # [18:04] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  160. # [18:04] <Zakim> agendum 1. "Open actions" taken up [from plh]
  161. # [18:04] <plh> Paul: let's check on actions
  162. # [18:04] <plh> action-249?
  163. # [18:04] * trackbot is looking up action-249.
  164. # [18:04] <trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2015-01-15 -- OPEN
  165. # [18:04] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
  166. # [18:04] <plh> Paul: due January 15
  167. # [18:05] <plh> ... Robin is planning to do it over the next week
  168. # [18:05] <plh> action-252?
  169. # [18:05] * trackbot is looking up action-252.
  170. # [18:05] <trackbot> action-252 -- Sam Ruby to - contact polyglot proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the spec -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN
  171. # [18:05] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252
  172. # [18:05] <darobin> [I confirm that; other call wrapping up sorry]
  173. # [18:05] <plh> Paul: in progress
  174. # [18:05] <plh> action-253?
  175. # [18:05] * trackbot is looking up action-253.
  176. # [18:05] <trackbot> action-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2015-01-23 -- OPEN
  177. # [18:05] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
  178. # [18:05] <plh> Paul: due January 23
  179. # [18:06] <plh> ... I assume the html5 work gets higher priority
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  181. # [18:06] <plh> action-254?
  182. # [18:06] * trackbot is looking up action-254.
  183. # [18:06] <trackbot> action-254 -- Robin Berjon to Triage and prioritise DOM bugs based on incompatible tests (+XMLDocument#load) -- due 2014-12-19 -- OPEN
  184. # [18:06] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/254
  185. # [18:06] <plh> Paul: very recent update from Robin
  186. # [18:06] <paulc> Update: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Jan/0000.html
  187. # [18:06] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  188. # [18:06] <Zakim> agendum 2. "Spring f2f Update" taken up [from plh]
  189. # [18:07] <plh> plh: MIT is not a solution due to conflicts
  190. # [18:08] <plh> ... April 13-17, April 20-24, May 11-15
  191. # [18:08] <paulc> April 13-17 or April 20-24 are possible at Microsoft in Redmond. I am working on determing if we have budget for hosting.
  192. # [18:09] <plh> ... Leonie is looking at London, Paul is looking at MS
  193. # [18:09] <paulc> Also checking on space in Silicon Valley that we used in May 2012
  194. # [18:09] <plh> Paul: we have space in redmond but not sure about budget, also in Silicon valley
  195. # [18:09] <plh> Paul: hope to have something to report
  196. # [18:10] <janina> April 13-17 conflicts with (Christian) Holy Week
  197. # [18:10] <janina> Easter is April 20
  198. # [18:10] <plh> Leonie: we're having the same conversation with lunches
  199. # [18:10] <paulc> I think Easter is earlier ie Apr 8
  200. # [18:11] <plh> Leonie: we have the rooms but not the budget yet.
  201. # [18:12] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  202. # [18:12] <darobin> Zakim, [ is me
  203. # [18:12] <Zakim> +darobin; got it
  204. # [18:12] * darobin waves!
  205. # [18:12] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  206. # [18:12] <Zakim> agendum 3. "AOB" taken up [from plh]
  207. # [18:12] <plh> Paul: Call for Review on longdesc
  208. # [18:12] <paulc> http://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/4214
  209. # [18:13] <plh> ... closes on Jan 16
  210. # [18:13] <plh> Paul: Future of HTML Form HTTP extensions
  211. # [18:13] <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015Jan/0001.html
  212. # [18:14] <plh> Paul> Cameron promised to do a call for implementation interest
  213. # [18:14] <plh> ... Cameron doesn't want to carry it forward if there is no interest
  214. # [18:14] <plh> q+
  215. # [18:14] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  216. # [18:14] <paulc> ack plh
  217. # [18:14] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  218. # [18:15] <plh> plh: we're following two different strategies between JSON extension and the form extension
  219. # [18:15] <plh> ... one is to file bugs, and the other is to send a CfI
  220. # [18:15] <plh> Paul: please follow on the thread
  221. # [18:15] <plh> Plh: will do
  222. # [18:15] <plh> Paul: public Identifiers for entity resolution in XHTML
  223. # [18:16] <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015Jan/0003.html
  224. # [18:16] <plh> Paul: the editor will prepare a WG Note
  225. # [18:16] <plh> ... so the chairs and team will look at it
  226. # [18:16] <plh> ... to change the status of that
  227. # [18:16] <paulc> Topic: Media support interest
  228. # [18:16] <darobin> http://discourse.specifiction.org/t/media-controls-api/718
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  230. # [18:17] <plh> Plh: interest in future media work. should it be in the media task force or somewhere else?
  231. # [18:18] <plh> Paul: the TF concentrates on their current work. email public-html-media and see the interest there
  232. # [18:18] <plh> Paul: we had a good meeting this week on testing for MSE (thanks to Cyril)
  233. # [18:18] <Titi_Alone> Zakim, what conferences are active?
  234. # [18:18] <Zakim> I see Team_(wpay)16:56Z, Team_(comm)15:59Z, SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM, HTML_WG()12:00PM, XML_XSLWG()11:30AM, RWC_Audio()12:00PM active
  235. # [18:18] <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are DATA_DWBP()12:00PM, SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM
  236. # [18:19] <plh> Topic: DOM update
  237. # [18:19] <Titi_Alone> Zakim, this is HTML-WG
  238. # [18:19] <Zakim> sorry, Titi_Alone, I do not see a conference named 'HTML-WG' in progress or scheduled at this time
  239. # [18:19] <plh> Robin: most useful next step is for implementers to look at the list
  240. # [18:20] <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Jan/0000.html
  241. # [18:20] <plh> ... 2 big things to look
  242. # [18:20] <plh> ... mozilla links
  243. # [18:20] <Titi_Alone> Zakim, what conference is this?
  244. # [18:20] <Zakim> this is HTML_WG()12:00PM conference code 4865
  245. # [18:20] <plh> ... blocked on implementers providing input
  246. # [18:20] <plh> ... other is for lack of implementations
  247. # [18:21] <plh> Plh: so the tests are correct?
  248. # [18:21] <plh> Robin: yes, as far as I can find
  249. # [18:22] <plh> Robin: would be useful to get feedback from implementers
  250. # [18:22] <plh> ... those are issues with core interfaces so can't be removed
  251. # [18:22] <plh> q+
  252. # [18:22] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  253. # [18:22] <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19431
  254. # [18:23] <paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22960
  255. # [18:23] <paulc> We need implementers to review these two bugs and the material in Robin's summary note.
  256. # [18:23] <paulc> ack plh
  257. # [18:23] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  258. # [18:23] <plh> ack plh
  259. # [18:23] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  260. # [18:24] <plh> Plh: shouldn't we file bugs to the engines?
  261. # [18:24] <plh> Robin: would be a fair bit of work
  262. # [18:24] <paulc> Remember to have this discussion on www-dom@w3.org
  263. # [18:24] <plh> Plh: could wait a week to see how the discussion goes on www-dom
  264. # [18:25] <plh> zakim, move to next agendum
  265. # [18:25] <Zakim> agendum 4. "Next meeting" taken up [from plh]
  266. # [18:25] <plh> Sam will chair
  267. # [18:25] <darobin> I am regrets next week, speaking at a conference at the same time
  268. # [18:26] <plh> [adjourned]
  269. # [18:26] <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
  270. # [18:26] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
  271. # [18:26] <Zakim> -LJWatson
  272. # [18:26] <Zakim> -janina
  273. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Philippe
  274. # [18:26] <Zakim> -benjamp
  275. # [18:26] <Zakim> -darobin
  276. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Sam
  277. # [18:26] <Zakim> -tantek
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  280. # [18:27] <Zakim> -paulc
  281. # [18:27] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  282. # [18:27] <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, tantek, Sam, janina, Philippe, benjamp, LJWatson, [IPcaller], darobin
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  295. # [19:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- [html] darobin pushed 2 new commits to whatwg: https://github.com/w3c/html/compare/c7b2a6edadf3...5598415fed7f
  296. # [19:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg 3b2662c Ian Hickson: [giow] (3) Put back nntp to the scheme whitelist, since it was removed completely accidentally....
  297. # [19:42] -gitbot:#html-wg- html/whatwg 5598415 Robin Berjon: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into whatwg
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