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  86. # [17:59] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  87. # [17:59] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference.
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  89. # [17:59] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-html-wg-irc
  90. # [17:59] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  91. # [17:59] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  93. # [17:59] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  94. # [17:59] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
  95. # [17:59] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  96. # [17:59] <trackbot> Date: 29 January 2015
  97. # [18:00] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  98. # [18:00] <Zakim> +Sam
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  102. # [18:01] <Zakim> +ShaneM
  103. # [18:01] <rubys> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015JanMar/0007.html
  104. # [18:02] <Zakim> +??P15
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  106. # [18:02] <janina> zakim, ??P15 is me
  107. # [18:02] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  108. # [18:02] <Zakim> +??P19
  109. # [18:02] <tantek> zakim, ??p19 is me
  110. # [18:02] <Zakim> +tantek; got it
  111. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  112. # [18:03] <paulc_> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  113. # [18:03] <Zakim> +paulc_; got it
  114. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  115. # [18:04] <LJWatson> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
  116. # [18:04] <Zakim> +LJWatson; got it
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  118. # [18:04] <LJWatson> scribenick LJWatson
  119. # [18:04] <LJWatson> zakim, next item
  120. # [18:04] <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
  121. # [18:05] <rubys> agenda+ Open ACTION items
  122. # [18:05] * Zakim notes agendum 1 added
  123. # [18:05] <rubys> agenda+ Items closed this week
  124. # [18:05] * Zakim notes agendum 2 added
  125. # [18:05] <rubys> agenda+ Other business
  126. # [18:05] * Zakim notes agendum 3 added
  127. # [18:05] <rubys> agenda+ Chair and Scribe for next meeting
  128. # [18:05] * Zakim notes agendum 4 added
  129. # [18:05] <LJWatson> zakim, next item
  130. # [18:05] <Zakim> agendum 1. "Open ACTION items" taken up [from rubys]
  131. # [18:05] <tantek> re: 1a DOM bugs re: Document object - have not had the chance to talk with Boris about it.
  132. # [18:06] <rubys> ACTION-254?
  133. # [18:06] * trackbot is looking up ACTION-254.
  134. # [18:06] <trackbot> ACTION-254 -- Robin Berjon to Triage and prioritise DOM bugs based on incompatible tests (+XMLDocument#load) -- due 2014-12-19 -- OPEN
  135. # [18:06] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/254
  136. # [18:06] * plh zakim, call plh-mobile
  137. # [18:06] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  138. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Plh
  139. # [18:06] <LJWatson> SR: One action on Robin.
  140. # [18:06] <LJWatson> PLH: Robin is in Japan.
  141. # [18:07] <LJWatson> zakim, next item
  142. # [18:07] <Zakim> agendum 2. "Items closed this week" taken up [from rubys]
  143. # [18:07] <LJWatson> SR: Had a F2F poll.
  144. # [18:07] <rubys> http://intertwingly.net/tmp/w3c-spring-2015.html
  145. # [18:07] <LJWatson> SR: Preference for Redmond in HTML, and preference for Zaragoza in WebApps.
  146. # [18:08] <LJWatson> PLH: Suggestion to re-open the poll.
  147. # [18:08] <LJWatson> PLH: Sam you thought co-location wasn't necessary?
  148. # [18:08] <LJWatson> PLH: We co-located before because people asked for it.
  149. # [18:08] <LJWatson> SR: Next steps?
  150. # [18:08] <LJWatson> PLH: Would like feedback from WebApps chairs.
  151. # [18:09] <LJWatson> zakim, next item
  152. # [18:09] <Zakim> agendum 3. "Other business" taken up [from rubys]
  153. # [18:09] <LJWatson> SR: Problem - Canvas work has stalled. Sent a note that's had two responses.
  154. # [18:09] <LJWatson> PLH: Has been discussion about work that's required. Don't think there has been a conclusion.
  155. # [18:10] <rubys> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2015JanMar/0000.html
  156. # [18:10] <LJWatson> PC: Where did that discussion happen?
  157. # [18:10] <LJWatson> PLH: Judy, Rich and Janina have been discussing it I think.
  158. # [18:10] <LJWatson> JS: Yes.
  159. # [18:10] <LJWatson> JS: Part of the issue is to understand what's missing.
  160. # [18:11] <LJWatson> PLH: Thought the issue was a lack of tests?
  161. # [18:11] <rubys> https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Canvas_Task_Force/CR-Test
  162. # [18:11] <LJWatson> JS: Believe tests are done.
  163. # [18:11] <LJWatson> SR: The wiki references hit regions.
  164. # [18:12] <LJWatson> JS: Draw focus ring is the thing that's closest to ready.
  165. # [18:12] <LJWatson> JS: Hit regions will take longer.
  166. # [18:12] <LJWatson> PC: What's the status on the doc itself?
  167. # [18:12] <LJWatson> SR: Next step is to return to LC.
  168. # [18:13] <LJWatson> SR: We do that when we think it's ready. Need to look at whether things like hit region should remain.
  169. # [18:13] <LJWatson> SR: We'll go with what the group discussing this comes up with.
  170. # [18:13] <LJWatson> SR: Any other business?
  171. # [18:13] <plh> http://w3c.github.io/webrtc-charter/webrtc-charter.html
  172. # [18:15] <LJWatson> PLH: WebRTC charter - contains a lot of media APIs. We're defining the media interface, so we should be aware of this.
  173. # [18:15] <LJWatson> PC: Is there a diff available?
  174. # [18:15] <plh> http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2011%2F04%2Fwebrtc-charter.html&doc2=http%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fwebrtc-charter%2Fwebrtc-charter.html
  175. # [18:15] <LJWatson> PLH: The deliverables have changed.
  176. # [18:16] <LJWatson> PLH: Don't expect this group to do anything. This is just FYI.
  177. # [18:16] <LJWatson> SR: Could you post that to WebApps and/or media sub-group?
  178. # [18:16] <LJWatson> PLH: Yes.
  179. # [18:17] <LJWatson> PC: Recc track deliverables, the media deliverables seem to be joint deliverables?
  180. # [18:17] <rubys> s/to WebApps/to public-html/
  181. # [18:17] <LJWatson> PLH: Yes.
  182. # [18:17] <LJWatson> PC: So have these items been in existence for some time?
  183. # [18:17] <LJWatson> PLH: It's possible.
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  185. # [18:17] <LJWatson> PC: Editorially most things on the WebRTC scope are joint deliverables.
  186. # [18:18] <LJWatson> PC: It makes sense for us to rationalise where media work is happening?
  187. # [18:18] <LJWatson> PLH: Yes.
  188. # [18:18] <LJWatson> PC: Has this taken the new streams into consideration?
  189. # [18:19] <LJWatson> PLH: I don't know.
  190. # [18:19] <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
  191. # [18:19] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-html-wg-minutes.html LJWatson
  192. # [18:19] <LJWatson> PC: Looks like get user media doesn't reference the streams.
  193. # [18:23] <tantek> what is the recent (HTML5) history behind keeping the <title> element as required? (as opposed to making it optional)
  194. # [18:23] <rubys> Neither Sam nor Shane recall this being discussed in either the HTML WG or XHTML context
  195. # [18:23] <tantek> second question was, appears that spec doesn't say what browsers should do if <title> element is missing, was that a deliberate omission, or just not discussed during HTML5?
  196. # [18:24] <LJWatson> PLH: Searched bugzilla and nothing came up.
  197. # [18:24] <LJWatson> PLH: Best approach would be to raise a bug.
  198. # [18:25] <LJWatson> zakim, next item
  199. # [18:25] <Zakim> agendum 4. "Chair and Scribe for next meeting" taken up [from rubys]
  200. # [18:25] <LJWatson> SM: I'll scribe next time.
  201. # [18:25] <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minuts
  202. # [18:25] <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minuts', LJWatson. Try /msg RRSAgent help
  203. # [18:25] <Zakim> -janina
  204. # [18:25] <Zakim> -Plh
  205. # [18:25] <Zakim> -Sam
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  209. # [18:25] <Zakim> -paulc_
  210. # [18:26] <rubys> rrsagent, make minutes
  211. # [18:26] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
  212. # [18:26] <Zakim> -LJWatson
  213. # [18:26] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  214. # [18:26] <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, ShaneM, janina, tantek, paulc_, LJWatson, Plh
  215. # [18:26] <LJWatson> Chair: Sam
  216. # [18:27] <LJWatson> rrsagent, make minutes
  217. # [18:27] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/29-html-wg-minutes.html LJWatson
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