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  4. # [00:00] <tw2113> :O she can teleport
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  6. # [00:01] <pa7> :D
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  14. # [00:07] <softdrink> semantically, is there a recommended way to handle a "search results as you type" drop-down?
  15. # [00:09] <softdrink> i was looking at <input type="search"/> and <datalist>, but i'm not sure if i'm going down the right path for future implementations.
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  19. # [00:17] <paul_irish> bot-t: tell matjas sessionStorage is `null` in ff4 if its disabled.
  20. # [00:17] <bot-t> paul_irish, Okay.
  21. # [00:18] <paul_irish> ?eval var obj = { nu : null }; 'nu' in obj;
  22. # [00:18] <bot-t> paul_irish: true
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  26. # [00:20] <tw2113> does anyone else kind of roll their eyes when they see someone go "Foo modern feature doesn't work in IE6! Help!"
  27. # [00:20] <softdrink> i just get stabby.
  28. # [00:20] <tw2113> my example would be [attr="value"]
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  36. # [00:40] <paul_irish> return window.localStorage != null;
  37. # [00:40] <paul_irish> or
  38. # [00:40] <paul_irish> return !!window.localStorage.getItem;
  39. # [00:40] <paul_irish> (in a try/catch)
  40. # [00:40] <paul_irish> snover: ^
  41. # [00:43] <snover> mm.
  42. # [00:44] <snover> Is that our new bulletproof localstorage detection method?
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  44. # [00:45] <snover> var localStorage; try { localStorage = !!window.localStorage.getItem; } catch (e) { localStorage = false; }
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  46. # [00:50] <paul_irish> tight.
  47. # [00:51] <snover> so much energy wasted on that
  48. # [00:52] <snover> *everyone* tries to reimplement it and then *everyone* gets it wrong
  49. # [00:52] <snover> First the demo sites, then Twitter, then YouTube, now I think GrooveShark did it too
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  67. # [01:54] <zackattack> ey guys, i'm looking to hire linux savvy dev/programmer/hacker for a quick project. let me know if you know anybody who might be available? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cpg/2099033880.html if so, shoot me an email: zackster @ gmail . cøm
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  104. # [04:05] <BrianBlakely> Hell yes, 92 points in Entanglement!
  105. # [04:06] <BrianBlakely> Default app in Chrome OS!
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  130. # [05:59] <BrianBlakely> Alright, like most games, this became harder once I learned the rules >_>
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  135. # [06:54] <JonathanNeal> So is jQuery gonna be HTML5 compat now, paul_irish ?
  136. # [06:54] <paul_irish> it must!
  137. # [06:54] <paul_irish> JonathanNeal: pm?
  138. # [06:54] <JonathanNeal> sure
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  187. # [12:18] <cheilmann> Now that rocks! http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40591 A level editor for Angry Birds in Canvas :)
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  190. # [12:37] <pen> hello
  191. # [12:37] <pen> anyone here?
  192. # [12:40] <JKarsrud> about 71 people :)
  193. # [12:41] <pen> cool
  194. # [12:41] <pen> I am playing around with google chrome extension content script and I want to listen to DOMContentLoaded event
  195. # [12:41] <pen> but I tried many times it just doesn't work
  196. # [12:43] <pen> but strangely, existing extension such as flashblock works
  197. # [12:44] <pen> I don't know how they did it. I read the code so many times I just can't grasp the trick
  198. # [12:54] <Boohemian> hallo
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  202. # [13:04] <cheilmann> sounds like a chrome extension issue to me
  203. # [13:05] <cheilmann> what does your extension do? could you do it on onload, too?
  204. # [13:06] <pen> similar to flashblock
  205. # [13:06] <pen> I want to listen to DOMContentLoaded and DOMNodeInserted
  206. # [13:07] <vjeux> maybe your run_at param in the manifest is wrong
  207. # [13:07] <vjeux> http://code.google.com/chrome/extensions/content_scripts.html
  208. # [13:08] <vjeux> are you doing at document_start?
  209. # [13:09] <pen> what do you mean
  210. # [13:09] <pen> oh
  211. # [13:09] <pen> I didn't configure run_ar
  212. # [13:09] <pen> run_at
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  214. # [13:10] <pen> so maybe it is at document_start
  215. # [13:10] <vjeux> Defaults to "document_idle".
  216. # [13:10] <pen> oh
  217. # [13:10] <vjeux> Note: With "document_idle", content scripts may not necessarily receive the window.onload event, because they may run after it has already fired.
  218. # [13:10] <pen> ok, let me try document_end
  219. # [13:10] <pen> I se
  220. # [13:10] <pen> that makes sense
  221. # [13:11] <pen> do I need all_frames too?
  222. # [13:12] <vjeux> are you watching content inside frames?
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  224. # [13:13] <pen> I want to detect external iframe for flash
  225. # [13:13] <pen> sometimes iframe will load flash externally
  226. # [13:13] <pen> I wonder if all frames would also detects that
  227. # [13:14] <pen> oh yea, all_frames seems to do what I want
  228. # [13:14] <vjeux> great
  229. # [13:15] <pen> thanks man, I owe you one
  230. # [13:16] <vjeux> :)
  231. # [13:18] <pen> vjeux: also I have just one question, what does element.$something mean?
  232. # [13:19] <pen> what is that $something
  233. # [13:19] <vjeux> in what context?
  234. # [13:19] <pen> what do you mean? just in javascript
  235. # [13:19] <pen> oh embed is a element
  236. # [13:19] <pen> an
  237. # [13:19] <pen> oops, I mean element is element
  238. # [13:19] <pen> lol
  239. # [13:20] <pen> part of a NodeList
  240. # [13:20] <vjeux> I don't get it :p
  241. # [13:20] <vjeux> element.blabla
  242. # [13:20] <vjeux> is getting the attribute blabla from the object element
  243. # [13:20] <pen> but how about $blabla
  244. # [13:20] <vjeux> the same
  245. # [13:21] <vjeux> except it's being called $blabla :p
  246. # [13:21] <pen> hmm
  247. # [13:21] <pen> so you can add attributes for any element at anytime?
  248. # [13:21] <vjeux> ({$blabla:1}).$blabla == 1
  249. # [13:21] <vjeux> yes
  250. # [13:21] <pen> what does that line do?
  251. # [13:22] <vjeux> nothing :p
  252. # [13:22] <vjeux> just showing that $blabla is just a normal name
  253. # [13:22] <pen> oh
  254. # [13:22] <pen> ok
  255. # [13:22] <pen> also I wonder do I really need ; for every line?
  256. # [13:23] <pen> seems like javascript does not enforce
  257. # [13:23] <vjeux> no you don't "need" it
  258. # [13:24] <vjeux> there is an heuristic that will put them where they "should" be
  259. # [13:24] <vjeux> but it's not 100% working
  260. # [13:24] <vjeux> so it's better to put them everytime
  261. # [13:24] <vjeux> not to get any bad surprise
  262. # [13:25] <pen> oh
  263. # [13:25] <pen> I see
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  266. # [13:26] <pen> lol, i'm so new to this
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  269. # [13:33] <MrWax> Will the WebSQL API be continued in some kind of way? now W3C doesn't do it?
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