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  1. # Session Start: Fri Dec 17 00:00:00 2010
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
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  5. # [00:02] <BrianBlakely> Hi everyone!
  6. # [00:05] <cardona507> hola!
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  9. # [00:17] <BrianBlakely> Does anyone want a job or know someone who wants one in Manhattan? Lead digital agency in America, by number of clients
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  11. # [00:26] <cardona507> who here is rockin the chrome beta version 9?
  12. # [00:27] <cardona507> 9.0.597.19 beta
  13. # [00:29] <BrianBlakely> Canary, here
  14. # [00:30] <cardona507> unclear if that is a yes or no BrianBlakely ;)
  15. # [00:30] <BrianBlakely> I like livin' on the trunk
  16. # [00:30] <BrianBlakely> cardona507: That is no.
  17. # [00:30] <BrianBlakely> Canary is at v10 at the moment
  18. # [00:30] <cardona507> ok
  19. # [00:30] <BrianBlakely> Does beta have Chrome Instant turned on?
  20. # [00:30] <BrianBlakely> cardona507
  21. # [00:31] <cardona507> no
  22. # [00:32] <BrianBlakely> Aw
  23. # [00:32] <cardona507> i am on chrome 9 and when I open a tab I get the little yellow bubble that says "do you wanna try out a chrome book" - wondering if anyone else is seeing it or am i special?
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  27. # [00:42] <cardona507> I'm gonna go with i'm special :p
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  31. # [01:10] <tw2113> you're so special, your bus can fit you and the driver cardona507
  32. # [01:11] <cardona507> \o/
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  79. # [03:01] <HAITI> :w
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  83. # [03:42] <HAITI> ;)
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  217. # [16:54] <Michael> paul_irish !
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  223. # [17:18] <paul_irish> Michael: !
  224. # [17:18] <Michael> Toying with WebGL
  225. # [17:18] <paul_irish> oOooOoo
  226. # [17:18] <Michael> The Q3 demo in chrome/canary is nuts
  227. # [17:18] <paul_irish> q3 ?
  228. # [17:18] <Michael> quake3
  229. # [17:19] <Michael> http://media.tojicode.com/q3bsp/
  230. # [17:19] <Michael> The fact that it's all HTML 5 is pretty neat
  231. # [17:20] <Michael> We have a 3D model that I've been manipulating in Flash/papervision3D
  232. # [17:20] <Michael> Our manager is anti-flash.. .so an alternative is to do it with images and JS ala the 360 on apple.com/html5
  233. # [17:20] <Michael> But that only works well if you have a flat background. We don't, and the model can have many textures
  234. # [17:21] <tw2113> cool manager
  235. # [17:21] <Michael> So doing it with images and JS doesn't seem like a good solution
  236. # [17:21] <Michael> yeah
  237. # [17:21] <Michael> I guess.
  238. # [17:21] <tw2113> being anti-flash n all
  239. # [17:21] <Michael> I still think Flash is the only real solution for this
  240. # [17:21] <Michael> And if we insist on pushing envelopes then I would press for WebGL
  241. # [17:21] <Michael> but not static images. That's just recreating what Flash version1 could do over 10 years ago
  242. # [17:22] <Michael> What's the point?
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  271. # [18:09] <BlueG> I'm still wondering how to properly style the new HTML5 sectioning elements (ie- h# elements whose rank is altered by hgroup, section, article, etc).
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  273. # [18:12] <miketaylr> BlueG: check out http://www.iecss.com/whatwg.css
  274. # [18:12] <miketaylr> in the margins and padding section
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  278. # [18:16] <vjeux> miketaylr: is this css going to be the base css for html5 browsers?
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  280. # [18:17] <miketaylr> vjeux: in theory--jon neal is just going through the spec and pulling in the recommendations into one doc
  281. # [18:17] <vjeux> ok
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  283. # [18:17] <vjeux> I hope that all the browsers will have a uniform standard css
  284. # [18:17] <miketaylr> he usually shows up here, so you can ask him more
  285. # [18:18] <BlueG> miketaylr: :heading(#), I take it that specifies a heading with an effective rank of #, I had not seen that one before. But will this produce content that blows up in older, unsupporting browsers (probably including IE8)?
  286. # [18:18] <miketaylr> BlueG: yeah, it's not backwards compatible
  287. # [18:19] <vjeux> http://blog.vjeux.com/2010/javascript/javascript-array-performances.html
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  289. # [18:19] <BlueG> And by "blows up" I just mean has goofy looking headings that appear to have the wrong rank. It seems like having scoped stylesheets could also be a valuable tool, but still wouldn't give any real semblance of backwards compatibility.
  290. # [18:19] <vjeux> I wrote an article about array performances with image processing in mind
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  348. # [21:02] <paul_irish> http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/html-css-techniques/html5-and-css3-without-guilt
  349. # [21:02] <paul_irish> sans guilt bros.
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  371. # [21:55] <Michael> paul_irish, I take you've seen bodybrowser?
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  384. # [22:29] <biodegabriel> Anyone know how to style placeholder text? I found this suggestion but it doesn't work http://pastie.org/1385889
  385. # [22:30] <biodegabriel> The default is grey, but that's illegible if you have a funky background colour for your inputs.
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  387. # [22:31] <tw2113> http://mike.poltyn.com/tests/placeholder
  388. # [22:31] <tw2113> looks like you need prefixes for the moment
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  390. # [22:41] <biodegabriel> ah of course. thanks tw2113 !
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  395. # [22:45] <biodegabriel> tw2113: i don't think i should be styling placeholders anyways, cause i'm using a jquery plugin to add placeholders for browsers that don't support it, and i don't know if i can style a placeholder that isn't even supported by the browser. need to investigate.....
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  399. # [22:46] <tw2113> it's up to you really
  400. # [22:46] <tw2113> personally, i think if the browser can't handle a placeholder, just give them the blank text field
  401. # [22:47] <tw2113> the label should be enough to explain what the field is for, for those browsers
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  407. # [22:59] <danielfilho> damn
  408. # [22:59] <danielfilho> wtf is this -webkit-margin-start that chrome puts automatically on my dd elements?
  409. # [22:59] <danielfilho> :(
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  411. # [23:06] <Ms2ger> danielfilho, margin-left in ltr and margin-right in rtl text
  412. # [23:07] <danielfilho> Hm
  413. # [23:07] <danielfilho> Thought I could soulve it with a list-style or smthg like that.
  414. # [23:07] <danielfilho> will read about it later
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  431. # [23:42] <JonathanNeal> hello
  432. # [23:44] <tw2113> yo jonny
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