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- # [01:30] <sdwrage> Hey all
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- # [03:33] <nimbupani> mikew3c: I gotta show you something!
- # [03:34] <mikew3c> I'm all ears
- # [03:34] <mikew3c> or all eyes
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- # [03:40] <paul_irish> yo
- # [03:40] <paul_irish> i think its time to make mothereffinghsla.com
- # [03:42] <paul_irish> mothereffinghsl or mothereffinghsla ?
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- # [04:05] <paul_irish> nimbupani: :)
- # [04:08] <paul_irish> http://paulirish.com/i/9980.png thoughts?
- # [04:10] <nimbupani> guize thats paul_irish's own design.
- # [04:10] <tw2113> http://www.lutzroeder.com/html5/digger/
- # [04:10] <paul_irish> sorry that's a paul irish divya manian collab!
- # [04:10] <tw2113> boulderdash!
- # [04:11] <nimbupani> i refuse to identify myself with that awesomeness.
- # [04:11] <paul_irish> this one is hard.
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- # [04:19] <tw2113> http://www.comicsanscriminal.com/
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- # [05:10] <IanWizard> Is there any way to possibly record audio from the mic on a computer without using Flash or Java? (I want to make it a mobile site, and it has to be cross platform.)
- # [05:11] <tw2113> none that i'm presently aware of
- # [05:11] <tw2113> that's one of the areas that flash still trumps
- # [05:12] <paulrouget> IanWizard: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591976
- # [05:13] <paulrouget> IanWizard: actually, on Android, the File Picker provide you a way to record sound a provide an audio file
- # [05:13] <paulrouget> depends what you want to do with this audio file
- # [05:13] <paulrouget> If you just want to upload it, it's possible.
- # [05:14] <paulrouget> it's 3GP file iirc, and is accessible through the File API.
- # [05:15] <IanWizard> it's actually not for real audio. Ya know how the Square card reader works?
- # [05:16] <paulrouget> what is it for if it's not for real audio?
- # [05:16] <IanWizard> you can take credit card payments with this thing that plugs into you headset jack. I'm trying to do something similar. Is there a Flash type alternative for iphone?
- # [05:16] <paulrouget> I see.
- # [05:16] <paulrouget> no
- # [05:16] <IanWizard> (btw, it's not for credit cards, but it's along those lines)
- # [05:17] <IanWizard> so I'll have to go with a custom app for iPhone I guess.
- # [05:17] <IanWizard> ok, thanks paul (and tw2113)
- # [05:18] <paulrouget> phonegap?
- # [05:18] <tw2113> antennaegate?
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- # [05:19] <IanWizard> paulrouget, yeah, but does phonegap work in browser? I thought it was just for building apps.
- # [05:19] <paulrouget> no, it doesn't, but they implement the device API
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- # [05:20] <paulrouget> so maybe in the future you'll be able to move from phonegap to a web app
- # [05:20] <IanWizard> paulrouget, yeah, I'll probably do that, keep as much of the code base as possible ;)
- # [05:21] <IanWizard> (wow, paul_irish is in here... I feel like I'm in the presence of royalty)
- # [05:21] <paul_irish> IanWizard: i'm just a dude on the internet :)
- # [05:22] <tw2113> paul irish who?
- # [05:22] <paul_irish> watching hulu and drinking beer.
- # [05:22] <paul_irish> also ditto what paul said. phonegap ftw
- # [05:23] <IanWizard> paul_irish, but you're by far one of the coolest ;)
- # [05:23] <tw2113> who the fuck is paul irish?
- # [05:23] <paul_irish> thx bro
- # [05:23] <tw2113> all i see is a paul german in here
- # [05:23] <paul_irish> tw2113: ME< YOU BITCH
- # [05:23] <paulrouget> ^^
- # [05:23] <tw2113> oh wait, paul german is christian
- # [05:23] <tw2113> this one is paul asian :D
- # [05:24] <paul_irish> the best was the ajaxian post of all three pauls
- # [05:24] * tw2113 watches WWF from mid 2000
- # [05:24] <paul_irish> ?g ajaxian paul rouget irish bakaus
- # [05:24] <bot-t> paul_irish, Ajaxian » It's Friday. Take the time to learn the Web with a ... - http://ajaxian.com/archives/its-friday-take-the-time-to-learn-the-web-with-a-splash-of-french-german-and-irish
- # [05:25] <paulrouget> Paul_s FTW :)
- # [05:25] <paul_irish> paulrouget: do you know if there's progress on the fullscreen API?
- # [05:25] <paul_irish> i was hearing from blizzard that any element could go fullscreen
- # [05:26] <paulrouget> paul_irish: not for fx4
- # [05:26] <paul_irish> aiight
- # [05:26] <tw2113> btw just kidding paul_irish :D
- # [05:26] <paulrouget> WIP, I hope we'll something early 2011
- # [05:26] <paul_irish> so once fx4 is settled, then it'll keep going
- # [05:26] <paul_irish> good good!
- # [05:26] <paul_irish> tw2113: <3
- # [05:27] <paul_irish> ?wa time paris
- # [05:27] <bot-t> paul_irish, 2:33:42 am CET : Wednesday, December 22, 2010
- # [05:27] <IanWizard> gotta go now, bye guys, thx for the help
- # [05:27] <tw2113> woo! WWF Raw Is War!
- # [05:28] <paul_irish> later dude.
- # [05:28] <IanWizard> (enjoy Hulu and beer ;) )
- # [05:28] * paul_irish burps.
- # [05:28] <IanWizard> lol
- # [05:29] * tw2113 scatches male parts
- # [05:30] <paulrouget> paul_irish: what's your bugzilla (mozilla) id?
- # [05:30] <paul_irish> paul.irish@gmaillllll
- # [05:30] <paul_irish> you putting the watch on?
- # [05:31] <paulrouget> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545812
- # [05:31] <paulrouget> you'll see some patches
- # [05:31] <paul_irish> oh! thx man
- # [05:32] <paul_irish> also
- # [05:33] <paul_irish> paulrouget: is this you? http://assets.en.oreilly.com/1/event/61/oscon2011_interior_photo.jpg
- # [05:34] <paulrouget> no :)
- # [05:34] <paulrouget> me in the future
- # [05:34] <paul_irish> hehehe
- # [05:34] <paulrouget> me in 5 years probably
- # [05:35] <paulrouget> never been to oscon
- # [05:35] <paul_irish> same
- # [05:36] <paul_irish> we should go tagteam and html5 demo their faces off :)
- # [05:36] <tw2113> i got a raise after only being at my job since september...i may actually start to be able to save again
- # [05:37] <tw2113> with good markup?
- # [05:37] <paul_irish> lol. if i feel like it.
- # [05:37] <tw2113> you'd lose me as a friend for 5 minutes if you didn't
- # [05:37] <paul_irish> moreover.. it depends how you define "good"
- # [05:37] <tw2113> 10 minutes if you use a font tag
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- # [05:38] <tw2113> clean concise and as minimal as can be while retaining functionality
- # [05:38] <tw2113> well, the desired functionality
- # [05:39] <paul_irish> tw2113: wanna race to write the most minimal html5 validating document?
- # [05:39] <paulrouget> paul_irish: could be fun.
- # [05:39] <paul_irish> Ya!
- # [05:40] <tw2113> hmm
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- # [05:40] <tw2113> i'm good with the semantic stuff, but not so much some of the other stuff
- # [05:42] <paul_irish> fwiw.. it's: <!doctype html><title>omg</title><p>lol
- # [05:42] <tw2113> zomg*
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- # [05:51] <tw2113> important question paul_irish
- # [05:51] <tw2113> what type of beer
- # [05:51] <paul_irish> ?g session lager
- # [05:51] <bot-t> paul_irish, Full Sail Brewing Session Lager and Session Black - http://www.fullsailbrewing.com/session.cfm
- # [05:52] <tw2113> cool
- # [05:52] <tw2113> thankfully it's not budweiser
- # [05:52] <tw2113> i'd have to not be your friend for 15 minutes
- # [05:52] <paul_irish> vom. what do you take me for?
- # [05:53] <paul_irish> i live in SF. i dont think they actually distribute here.
- # [05:53] <paul_irish> we have taste.
- # [05:54] <tw2113> good :)
- # [05:57] <tw2113> i wouldn't mind forming some specialization for developing band websites
- # [05:57] <tw2113> most could use the help too, but not necessarily be the best paying
- # [05:59] <tw2113> but if i could prevent shit like this....TraCeY tHorN - fREE doWnloAd - oFfiCiaL wEbSitE
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- # [10:46] <mokush> does anybody know why jquery mobile detects a higher than 320px resolution for iphone 3gs?
- # [10:47] <JKarsrud> #jquery
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- # [10:54] <mokush> JKarsrud: I know, I know, but nobody on #jquery can provide help with jqmobile.
- # [10:55] <JKarsrud> sometimes they can. I haven't gotten the time to play around with it myself yet, which kinda sucks
- # [10:55] <JKarsrud> But what width does it detect? 980px or something?
- # [10:57] <mokush> JKarsrud: yeah, 980. it's driving me nuts
- # [10:57] <sean`> rofl @ homies
- # [10:59] <mokush> the iphones likes to think of himself as a tablet, the prick
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- # [11:00] <JKarsrud> The width is correct. Would you imagine seeing a regular site at 320px?
- # [11:01] <JKarsrud> It's not a 3gs issue, it's how it is
- # [11:01] <mkwst> try adding `<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" />`
- # [11:01] <mokush> JKarsrud: I don't get it, isn't the screen resolution 320?
- # [11:02] <mkwst> 980px is the default zoomed-out view that iOS renders your site into.
- # [11:02] <JKarsrud> yeah
- # [11:02] <JKarsrud> exactly
- # [11:02] <mokush> mkwst: ok, testing right now.
- # [11:02] <mkwst> jquery is probably detecting this entire viewport as the width, which makes sense.
- # [11:03] <mkwst> there was just a helpful article on this... give me a moment to track it down.
- # [11:03] <mkwst> http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/201012/controlling_text_size_in_safari_for_ios_without_disabling_user_zoom/ not exactly your question, but it describes the issue well.
- # [11:06] <mokush> mkwst: hell yeah, it works! thanks man!
- # [11:07] <mkwst> cool. :)
- # [11:08] <mokush> man, the mobile browsers landscape makes the old browser wars look like a tea party
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- # [14:13] <stuffmc> Hi
- # [14:14] <stuffmc> anybody having *some* experience with the <audio> tag?
- # [14:14] <stuffmc> I'm trying to find an event who would report when a stream is "buffering"
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- # [14:57] <JKarsrud> stuffmc: the 'waiting' event doesn't to it?
- # [15:00] <stuffmc> nope
- # [15:00] <stuffmc> :(
- # [15:00] <stuffmc> I've got all the "loadeddata", "playing", … when the stream resumes, but no indication of the "stop"
- # [15:00] <stuffmc> btw I simulate this with ipfw, FYI ;-)
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- # [15:10] <JKarsrud> Ok, then I don't know. Sorry
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- # [17:45] <paul_irish> wow .. friend of mine just got HTML5 license plates in CA
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- # [17:52] <nimbupani> is he html5douche???
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- # [17:59] <tw2113> i am correct in thinking css3hootchie is paul, right?
- # [18:00] <cocoadaemon> paul_irish: $('#myCar') ?
- # [18:01] <paul_irish> tw2113: i am none of those.
- # [18:01] <nimbupani> naah I think paul_irish has too much stuff to juggle to be one of em
- # [18:02] <tw2113> i know you're not REALLY a hootchie :P
- # [18:02] <paul_irish> @websocketsskank
- # [18:02] <mkwst> he said he's not one of _those_, which obviously means he's running another one you haven't seen yet.
- # [18:02] <tw2113> good point mkwst
- # [18:03] <paul_irish> @webglfloozy
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- # [18:23] <danielfilho> i need 500 ounces of coffee.
- # [18:23] <danielfilho> really.
- # [18:23] <danielfilho> it's 3:20pm but my body thinks it is am.
- # [18:24] <paul_irish> danielfilho: i thought you were in .br
- # [18:24] <danielfilho> I am.
- # [18:24] <danielfilho> Sao Paulo, BR
- # [18:25] <danielfilho> http://everytimezone.com/
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- # [18:27] <danielfilho> paul_irish btw, I told Irae you've said hi =)
- # [18:27] <paul_irish> woohoo
- # [18:27] <paul_irish> <3 brazilian js hackers.
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- # [18:28] <danielfilho> so, come here with chris heilmenn and mike taylor to have some boose.
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- # [18:29] <danielfilho> *heilmann
- # [18:30] <paul_irish> mike can speak pt-br too! okay we'll come over.
- # [18:30] <paul_irish> is sao paulo the place to be?
- # [18:31] <danielfilho> absolutely.
- # [18:32] <danielfilho> in google dev day, I've met Eric Bidelman and Eric Tholomé
- # [18:33] <danielfilho> I think you know Bidelman. Talked a lot to him about chrome frame.
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- # [18:39] <mokush> phonegap vs titanium?
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- # [19:06] <paul_irish> mokush: phonegap
- # [19:06] <mokush> paul_irish: why? titanium seems better imo
- # [19:06] <paul_irish> larger contributor base. more community.
- # [19:06] <paul_irish> danielfilho: yup! work with eric every day :)
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- # [19:08] <mokush> paul_irish: but phonegap doesn't provide any ui. right?
- # [19:08] <paul_irish> correct
- # [19:08] <Pewpewarrows> paul_irish, what kind of race conditions were you getting by using belatedpng from a $.getscript()? haven't seen any myself
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- # [19:12] <paul_irish> Pewpewarrows: hmmm.. unknown.
- # [19:13] <paul_irish> i think i was guessing (incorrectly) about race conditions
- # [19:13] <tw2113> mmm belatedpng instead of alphafilters
- # [19:13] <Pewpewarrows> paul_irish, ok, was just curious ^^
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- # [19:15] <paul_irish> NiftyLettuce: on paths, you're asking where to run the build script from?
- # [19:16] <NiftyLettuce> I'll put up a pastebin of my structure, maybe you can help
- # [19:16] <paul_irish> i usually cd into build/ and `ant build` from there
- # [19:16] <paul_irish> does your folder structure differ a lot from how boilerplate ships?
- # [19:18] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: yeah
- # [19:18] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: huge php app
- # [19:18] <paul_irish> o
- # [19:18] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: but fairly organized
- # [19:18] <paul_irish> well
- # [19:18] <paul_irish> the script is configurable to change folder structure
- # [19:18] <paul_irish> but
- # [19:18] <paul_irish> ive never done it :)
- # [19:20] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: http://paste.ubuntu.com/546666/
- # [19:22] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: possible for an assist ;)?
- # [19:22] <paul_irish> ummmmmmm
- # [19:22] * paul_irish shrugs
- # [19:22] <NiftyLettuce> lol
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- # [19:25] <NiftyLettuce> like I have www/assets/js for mine, so dir.js = www/assets/js ?
- # [19:25] <NiftyLettuce> or just assets/js?
- # [19:26] <tw2113> I need to convince some people that a paragraph about someone and then before/after photos are better layed out as <p><img1><img2> instead of <img1><p><img2>
- # [19:26] <tw2113> i don't like how the 2nd one has the paragraph sandwiched between the images
- # [19:27] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: lmk
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- # [19:29] <paul_irish> NiftyLettuce: try both?
- # [19:29] <paul_irish> it wont break anything
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- # [19:36] <danielfilho> oh my. it's wonderful to have a starbucks just crossing the street. I'm 20% awake now.
- # [19:38] <nimbupani> :|
- # [19:38] <nimbupani> dont you have local coffee shops?
- # [19:38] <danielfilho> they're kinda far.
- # [19:38] <nimbupani> :(
- # [19:38] <danielfilho> like 2 or 3 blocks. starbucks is about 5 meters from my company's hall
- # [19:39] <tw2113> in one part of town, i know of 2 starbucks across the street from each other
- # [19:39] <tw2113> one is a standalone, the other is in a Barnes N Noble store
- # [19:40] <danielfilho> http://goo.gl/maps/2Mx3 this is where I work. drag to see the other side of the street.
- # [19:44] <nimbupani> ah k.
- # [19:44] <nimbupani> i see it now :/
- # [19:45] <danielfilho> my fatness and sedentary factor won't allow me to walk more than that for a coffee.
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- # [19:50] <paul_irish> danielfilho: do you know agencia click?
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- # [19:51] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: broke my entire proj :/
- # [19:51] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: restoring from a checkout lol
- # [19:51] <danielfilho> paul_irish: yes, I do.
- # [19:51] <paul_irish> BROKEE
- # [19:51] <paul_irish> danielfilho: cool. are they cool?
- # [19:51] <danielfilho> they are big here... it's and ad agency focused on digital.
- # [19:51] <paul_irish> i used to work with them. sister agency.
- # [19:51] <danielfilho> they're traditional... I don't know what you consider cool.
- # [19:52] <paul_irish> hehe ok
- # [19:52] <danielfilho> in my point of view, they do great jobs when it's not done there
- # [19:52] <danielfilho> like, when they hire someone to do the job for them.
- # [19:52] <paul_irish> hah
- # [19:52] <danielfilho> but there are many cells here... they have one in Brasilia, this in Sao Paulo and problably more around the country.
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- # [20:04] <NiftyLettuce> ?
- # [20:04] <NiftyLettuce> in parseInt
- # [20:04] <paul_irish> parseInt( omg, 10)
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- # [20:46] <stuffmc> trying again now - maybe some new people
- # [20:46] <stuffmc> anybody having *some* experience with the <audio> tag?
- # [20:46] <stuffmc> I'm trying to find an event who would report when a stream is "buffering"
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- # [20:50] <paul_irish> iframe recursion http://jsfiddle.net/TFvev/1/show/
- # [20:51] <paul_irish> looks like ff and opera curtail the recusion at 6 layers deep or so.
- # [20:52] <paul_irish> but webkit keeeeeeeeps GOINGGGGG
- # [20:52] <mokush> paul_irish: hell yeah webkit!
- # [20:53] <mokush> ddos.
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- # [21:12] <NiftyLettuce> omg anyone ever use facebox?
- # [21:12] <NiftyLettuce> its soooooo bad
- # [21:12] <NiftyLettuce> hoorrrible js developer
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- # [21:12] <NiftyLettuce> xD
- # [21:13] <mokush> NiftyLettuce: what's facebox?
- # [21:13] <paul_irish> its actually made by one of the github guys]
- # [21:13] <NiftyLettuce> http://chriswanstrath.com/facebox/
- # [21:13] <NiftyLettuce> yeah
- # [21:13] <NiftyLettuce> but his source is horrible
- # [21:13] <paul_irish> probably. he's a ruby dude
- # [21:13] <NiftyLettuce> unless I'm using wrong vers
- # [21:13] <NiftyLettuce> :D
- # [21:14] <NiftyLettuce> im going to post a cleaned up version of the file
- # [21:14] <NiftyLettuce> maybe he will allow me 2 fork
- # [21:15] <NiftyLettuce> whats proper way to escape this?
- # [21:15] <NiftyLettuce> new RegExp('\.(' + imageTypes + ')$', 'i');
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- # [21:25] <tw2113> pretty sure this is major win http://videos.mozilla.org/serv/mozhacks/flight-of-the-navigator/
- # [21:26] <NiftyLettuce> can someone look at http://jsbin.com/izosu3/edit and help debug syntax errors?
- # [21:26] <NiftyLettuce> I keep getting a uncaught syntaxerr unexpected token )
- # [21:28] <Pewpewarrows> NiftyLettuce: I'm confused why they (the devs of facebox) found the need to make yet another lightbox plugin
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- # [21:28] <NiftyLettuce> Pewpewarrows: I cleaned it up a good bit...
- # [21:28] <NiftyLettuce> Pewpewarrows: it was written like ruby
- # [21:29] <Pewpewarrows> fancybox has covered all my lightbox needs so far
- # [21:29] <tw2113> everyone thinks they can do better with the same thing
- # [21:30] <NiftyLettuce> http://jsbin.com/utoze4/edit here is entire code
- # [21:30] <Pewpewarrows> not invented here syndrome to the max!
- # [21:31] <Pewpewarrows> I looked at their github source and immediately started yelling "wtf" in the office
- # [21:31] <Pewpewarrows> not the best sign
- # [21:32] <Pewpewarrows> (the first semicolon can be found on line 194) <- lol
- # [21:33] <NiftyLettuce> lol
- # [21:33] <tw2113> most lightbox setups rely on anchor classes don't they
- # [21:33] <NiftyLettuce> I cleaned it up, you see my paste?
- # [21:33] <Pewpewarrows> yeah NiftyLettuce, that's a nice cleanup job there
- # [21:33] <Pewpewarrows> :)
- # [21:33] <NiftyLettuce> can you help on line 86?
- # [21:34] <NiftyLettuce> Pewpewarrows: see escapement
- # [21:34] <NiftyLettuce> " $.facebox.settings.imageTypesRegexp = new RegExp('\.(' + imageTypes + ')$', 'i');"
- # [21:37] <Pewpewarrows> sure, let me see
- # [21:38] <Pewpewarrows> so what's the issue right now?
- # [21:39] <Pewpewarrows> without testing or running that at all, shouldn't the parenths be brackets?
- # [21:42] <NiftyLettuce> Pewpewarrows: i think i might have got it
- # [21:42] <NiftyLettuce> Pewpewarrows: Nvm... the error is Object #<anobj> has no method 'facebox'
- # [21:42] <NiftyLettuce> ill show you my JS and the Facebox.js
- # [21:43] <Pewpewarrows> oh
- # [21:43] <NiftyLettuce> Pewpewarrows: http://js.pastebin.com/gRhLMx9J
- # [21:43] <NiftyLettuce> Pewpewarrows: at bottom of file is my window load
- # [21:44] <NiftyLettuce> Pewpewarrows: error is resulting on...
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- # [21:52] <tw2113> whoo! happy holidays
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- # [22:54] <danielfilho> tw2113: for you too
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- # [22:57] <tw2113> a raise starting new years, a christmas bonus, a bottle of wine from the company in my last major project that is now live
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