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  6. # [00:31] <ben225> Has anyone found a lightbox plugin that can successfully launch html5 video, without the use of an iframe
  7. # [00:32] <ben225> ??
  8. # [00:32] <ben225> most lightboxes I've seen kill html5 elements and jquery.animate elements, etc
  9. # [00:32] <ben225> or a way to shiv it in, etc
  10. # [00:32] <ben225> edit & a way... you know what im talking about :)
  11. # [00:35] <Jayflux> wow didnt know there was a html5 channel
  12. # [00:37] <Jayflux> is html5 recommended to use now for new sites?
  13. # [00:38] <nimbupani> def Jayflux
  14. # [00:38] <ben225> Jayflux, of course
  15. # [00:38] <ben225> its what will set you apart :)
  16. # [00:38] <ben225> plus people use html5 so loosely as to what is and isnt supported
  17. # [00:39] <ben225> if youtube uses it, why not you?
  18. # [00:43] <Jayflux> very true
  19. # [00:43] <Jayflux> i heard that in html5 you don't need to end things
  20. # [00:43] <Jayflux> such as <br />
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  22. # [00:43] <Jayflux> or <p></p>
  23. # [00:45] <nimbupani> you dont, but it is good to do so it is easier to read and spot errors
  24. # [00:46] <ben225> anyone familiar with my lightbox issue ^^?
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  74. # [04:42] <ben225> been a few hours, gonna see if anyone else know =>
  75. # [04:43] <ben225> Has anyone found a lightbox plugin that can successfully launch html5 video, without the use of an iframe?
  76. # [04:43] <ben225> most lightboxes I've seen kill html5 elements and jquery.animate elements, etc.. with shiv, etc
  77. # [04:44] <miketaylr> why do they kill html5 elements?
  78. # [04:44] <miketaylr> because the contents are added via XHR?
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  81. # [04:54] <ben225> i'm not sure, just loading an inline div wasn't really working, miketaylr
  82. # [04:54] <ben225> miketaylr, sorry for the delayed response, got on a phone call
  83. # [04:54] <miketaylr> no worries
  84. # [04:55] <miketaylr> got a link?
  85. # [04:55] <ben225> well i since switched it out to load an iframe, you can see what im working with here tho => http://goo.gl/aN2ib
  86. # [04:55] <ben225> i can jfiddle it if you want
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  88. # [04:57] <ben225> just a client site
  89. # [04:57] <ben225> but obviously an iframe eliminates ability to go full screen, so its not really my solution
  90. # [04:57] <ben225> just a quick fix for client to see while developing
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  92. # [04:58] <ben225> the idea is to make those 3 video links come out in lightbox fashion, using html5 video and using the fallback feature for legacy browser
  93. # [04:58] <ben225> I'd like to move it all to inline hidden divs
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  95. # [04:59] <ben225> i initially tried that but canvas video player didn't work in the lightbox'd element
  96. # [05:00] <ben225> let me see if i can come up with a jfiddle real quick, hold on.
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  98. # [05:00] <miketaylr> cool
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  101. # [05:01] <ben225> see what im talkin about?
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  103. # [05:06] <miketaylr> ben225: oh, i bet i know what the deal is
  104. # [05:07] <miketaylr> maybe has to do with .innerHTML...maybe
  105. # [05:07] <ben225> maybe
  106. # [05:08] <ben225> but its not pulling up in chrome or safari either, which is strange
  107. # [05:08] <ben225> may be true tho, because the way it loads on a doc partial
  108. # [05:08] <ben225> almost done with jfiddle...
  109. # [05:11] <miketaylr> kk
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  119. # [07:09] <ben225> http://goo.gl/yye1H
  120. # [07:09] <ben225> oops
  121. # [07:09] <ben225> miketaylr = finally got it http://goo.gl/yye1H
  122. # [07:10] <ben225> miketaylr - i got distracted, cuz i figured it out
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  214. # [17:32] <tw2113> paul_irish, long time no see
  215. # [17:33] <paul_irish> hai
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  220. # [17:44] <mikesusz> has anyone else had supreme weirdness with flexbox in firefox (3.6.13)? like display:box and ff makes that element way wider than the browser window
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  222. # [17:45] <paul_irish> flexbox is weeeeeird
  223. # [17:46] <mikesusz> ah okay. if you say that, then i will skip it and do cheap css2 floats and hacks
  224. # [17:46] <mikesusz> caniuse gave me false hope i guess. :P http://caniuse.com/#cats=CSS
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  226. # [17:47] <mikesusz> or maybe i'll use a table. how far we've come in a decade. :P
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  232. # [17:59] <mikesusz> yeah this is crazy strange. it works for all the simplistic examples that everyone loved to blog about, in ixed-width divs and nothing inside of them
  233. # [17:59] <mikesusz> fixed
  234. # [17:59] <mikesusz> i put block elements inside the flexed containers and it all goes to hell. maybe in css4.
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  237. # [18:08] <tw2113> aye, anyone else agree that dropdown menus can tend to be annoying?
  238. # [18:09] <monteslu> tw2113, most of the time yes when its a small number of options
  239. # [18:09] <monteslu> bette as radio buttons
  240. # [18:09] <monteslu> but combo or type-aheads like dijit.form.FilteringSelect are good with a large number of items
  241. # [18:09] <monteslu> s/bette/better
  242. # [18:12] <tw2113> I think my biggest problem with the site in question, is that there are 6 different triggers for the dropdown, with 46 total links in the dropdowns(not counting likely repeat links)
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  250. # [18:20] <mikesusz> tw2113 - who designed that? doesn't sound like good UX
  251. # [18:22] <tw2113> not me, we are just hired to develop it
  252. # [18:22] <tw2113> it's also a chamber of commerce website, so tons of pages
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  254. # [18:24] <mikesusz> that's terrible. :( sorry
  255. # [18:27] <tw2113> i have other minor issues with it due to the fact that there are areas that seem to lack consistency for layout, causing less re-usability than i'd prefer
  256. # [18:31] <mikesusz> i've been shying away or pushing back on projects where no thought has been put into IA
  257. # [18:31] <mikesusz> (for my own sanity)
  258. # [18:32] <tw2113> bbs, going to see about possible office chair shopping
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  264. # [19:09] <cgcardona> top a tha morning
  265. # [19:15] <tw2113> back and new chairless
  266. # [19:15] <tw2113> but i did get some windshield wiper blades as I saw my current ones had gone to shit
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  270. # [19:34] <cgcardona> new windshield wipers for the new year - nice
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  312. # [23:36] <Arimil> So, I downloaded a HTML5 wordpress theme to use as a template for mine. Now I validated it before making any changes. http://validator.w3.org/unicorn/check?ucn_uri=mrtest.xoohq.com/wp/&ucn_task=conformance
  313. # [23:36] <Arimil> There's a few bugs but the one I can't seem to figure out is <hgroup role=banner">
  314. # [23:36] <Arimil> I can't seem to find anything about the role attribute and what it does.
  315. # [23:38] <snover> Arimil: wai-aria
  316. # [23:39] <Arimil> huh?
  317. # [23:39] <snover> google it.
  318. # [23:39] <snover> it’s where the role attributes comes from.
  319. # [23:40] <Arimil> Hm, it has something to do with disabilities. But if it isn't validating I guess it would just be safe to remove it.
  320. # [23:41] <Arimil> Thanks
  321. # [23:52] <Pewpewarrows> Arimil: the validator is just a tool, it's perfectly acceptable to have some invalid stuff in there so long as you know what you're doing
  322. # [23:54] <Arimil> Pewpewarrows: I like when the validators shows green bars ;)
  323. # Session Close: Sat Jan 01 00:00:00 2011

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