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1. # Session Start: Thu Jan 06 00:00:00 2011
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3. # [00:00] <alrra> ServerTokens Full (or not specified) = Server: Apache/2.0.41 (Unix) PHP/4.2.2 MyMod/1.2 -----> ServerTokens Prod = Server: Apache
4. # [00:00] <alrra> :)
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6. # [00:01] <paul_irish> welllll okay
7. # [00:01] <paul_irish> that's true.
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28. # [00:27] <antonkovalyov> hm, does anybody know if it is possible to set a breakpoint on a particular event listener in firebug?
29. # [00:27] <nimbupani> paul_irish: update html5readiness already!
30. # [00:27] <nimbupani> i hate seeing chrome 5 and opera 10.6 :/
31. # [00:27] <nimbupani> especially after fyrd brought it up :/
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33. # [00:29] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: i know you can in chrome ;)
34. # [00:29] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, don't tell me, i fucking love chrome for that. but i am debugging some weird bug happening in firefox only right now.
35. # [00:31] <paul_irish> nimbupani: how about now
36. # [00:32] <nimbupani> WOOOOOTZ
37. # [00:32] <nimbupani> THANKS paul_irish
38. # [00:32] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: for the first time in like months Firebug actually worked in Minefield
39. # [00:32] <paul_irish> but then 2 hours later i started back up minefield and fb was gone again
40. # [00:32] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, i had to downgrade because of that
41. # [00:33] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: btw you've noticed disqus failing in the chromium nightlies? i dont know whats up
42. # [00:33] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, what about adding ios safari to html5readiness
43. # [00:33] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, still?
44. # [00:33] <paul_irish> its not the regex bug
45. # [00:33] <paul_irish> but i was seeing it still yah.
46. # [00:33] <antonkovalyov> hm, i'll download one again. i use chrome dev on the daily basis and it works fine there. i'll check later today
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48. # [00:40] <paul_irish> okay. got FB working with minefield via nightly tester tools.. not very elegant though
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62. # [01:03] <thatryan> lol "one sec bro"
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66. # [01:10] <thatryan> paul_irish: what do you code in? editor wise
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84. # [01:37] <paul_irish> thatryan: textmate for whatever reason
85. # [01:37] <thatryan> word
86. # [01:40] <zachleat> contenteditable should fire a change event, amirite?
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100. # [02:09] <Evet> what are the common server-side needs for html5 applications?
101. # [02:10] <bckenny> the tyranny of the server will soon be at an end
102. # [02:10] <mikesusz> like any other js based app i would guess the answer is: tuned to support many many many tiny requests
103. # [02:11] <mikesusz> instead of large requests with big timeouts etc.
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105. # [02:11] <Evet> does websockets support binary protocol?
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108. # [02:20] <antonkovalyov> god i hate people who overwrite built-in functions
109. # [02:21] <antonkovalyov> sorry guys, wrong channel :)
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120. # [02:41] <Evet> relational database, triple store, messaging, video/image/document/audio processing, speech recognition, dns, email, irc, file hosting, url shortening, web analytics
121. # [02:42] <Evet> what else do you need in server-side for html5 apps?
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126. # [02:45] <mikew3c> Evet: websocket protocol does support binary, but because Javascript doesn't have any native binary support, the Websocket API does not
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129. # [02:47] <mikew3c> Evet: your list of server-side for HTML5 apps stuff doesn't seem specifically related to HTML5 or to new Web-platform technologies
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131. # [02:47] <Evet> mikew3c: it does. cos im going to provide all of them through HTTP API
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167. # [03:25] <Noxxy> can you have a section inside a section? o.o
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169. # [03:29] <paul_irish> guys.. if css had filters that you could apply to any HTML content. like blur and color inverse.. what other canned filters ones would you like to have?
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172. # [03:39] <tw2113> one that applies a picture of bacon
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178. # [04:01] <paul_irish> /devoice tw2113
179. # [04:01] <tw2113> *kicks dirt*
180. # [04:02] <Noxxy> the blur actually sounds very nice.
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182. # [04:11] <paul_irish> it would be!
183. # [04:11] <paul_irish> saturation is another good one
184. # [04:11] <paul_irish> that'd be mega handy
185. # [04:12] <Noxxy> basically a just anything commonly used from photoshop ha.
186. # [04:12] <paul_irish> iunno
187. # [04:12] <paul_irish> cuz this shit could apply to video, text, whole areas of html
188. # [04:12] <paul_irish> whereas photoshop filters are very much appropriate for images.
189. # [04:13] <paul_irish> soooo.... its not a 1:1 popularity mapping
190. # [04:13] <Noxxy> good point
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198. # [04:48] <cgarvey> not that I want to bring back the "2.0" reflections...but maybe a reflect filter?
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200. # [04:49] <cgarvey> well i guess theres rotate already which can handle that
201. # [04:51] <ben_c> yeah most of the things I think of can already be done one way or another
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203. # [04:52] <ben_c> I'd like a stereoscopy filter that takes the translate3d values and makes the page all red and cyan so I can pop some 3d glasses on
204. # [04:53] <cgarvey> gradient support on border could also be handle for detail work
205. # [04:53] <cgarvey> handy*
206. # [04:55] <ben_c> well you've got border-image and css3 gradients, that should cover that?
207. # [04:56] <cgarvey> yeah
208. # [04:57] <cgarvey> honestly anything beyond blur just sounds like canvas territory
209. # [04:58] <cgarvey> inner shadows?
210. # [05:05] <Noxxy> you can do inner shadows with the box shadow element.
211. # [05:08] <cgarvey> ah inset, nice
212. # [05:08] <Noxxy> Mhmm. I wonder how you could make an image have a gradient fade into transparent opacity.
213. # [05:09] <cgarvey> so like a gradient mask
214. # [05:09] <Noxxy> basically. lol
215. # [05:09] <cgarvey> that could be cool
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217. # [05:10] <Noxxy> Not sure what use it could have, so it's probably pointless ha.
218. # [05:10] <cgarvey> well for text it could be useful
219. # [05:10] <cgarvey> maybe for fading out a footer or something
220. # [05:11] <cgarvey> and carousels
221. # [05:11] <cgarvey> (fuck carousels)
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224. # [05:11] <Noxxy> yeah. thats a really good example actually. an image footer that you need to fade out at the top for the content to appear to vanish as you scroll.
225. # [05:14] <cgarvey> yeah that would be nice for news/feed tickers and the like
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227. # [05:15] <Noxxy> Yeah. I'd worry about making too many options though. Like you don't want to have a css element 'effect:' that has 30 different possible attributes to memorize ha.
228. # [05:15] <cgarvey> i guess it could be similar to an inner/outer box shadow except instead of colors its alpha
229. # [05:15] <Noxxy> yeah. if the footer is just a single color i thinkg you can use the css3 gradient and use rgba values
230. # [05:16] <Noxxy> not sure though, I haven't tried it personally.
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232. # [05:19] <cgarvey> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2293910/css3-transparency-gradient
233. # [05:19] <cgarvey> sure enough
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235. # [05:19] <Noxxy> Sweet, I'll have to remember that ha.
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239. # [05:24] <cgarvey> well hold on
240. # [05:24] <cgarvey> you'd have to make a div that lies over the content of the content you're trying to mask
241. # [05:24] <cgarvey> which is kinda crappy
242. # [05:24] <Noxxy> ick very crappy.
243. # [05:25] <cgarvey> http://twitter.com/
244. # [05:25] <Noxxy> I would just as soon use a transparent png background in that case lol.
245. # [05:25] <cgarvey> yeah thats what twitter does heh
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247. # [05:26] <cgarvey> but if you chould just define an inner gradient mask it would eliminate the need for that
248. # [05:26] <cgarvey> could*
249. # [05:27] <cgarvey> there would be some weird z-index stuff going on though
250. # [05:27] <cgarvey> since the parent would have to mask the children
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262. # [05:59] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: btw, I got that build script working that I was attempting to do a few weeks ago
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265. # [06:01] <tw2113> http://www.sc-article.co.tv/2011/01/x-ray-gif-of-human-speaking.html
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268. # [06:02] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: btw, I got that build script working that I was attempting to do a few weeks ag
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270. # [06:03] <paul_irish> NiftyLettuce: :) thx for the double.
271. # [06:03] <paul_irish> that's good news
272. # [06:03] <paul_irish> was there a bug or... what
273. # [06:04] <NiftyLettuce> well what I ended up doing was just re-organizing my project and making a child www folder and moving everything public in that folder
274. # [06:05] <NiftyLettuce> re-organized towards how you set up the initial template, then added a few extra lines and used packer on my PHP
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277. # [06:05] <NiftyLettuce> so sick... I automated my work flow insanely
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279. # [06:06] <NiftyLettuce> I want to build PHP automation of html5 boilerplate for several frameworks
280. # [06:06] <NiftyLettuce> when I have free time, ill chat with u on it
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288. # [06:12] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: btw... confirmed disqus still dies in nightly chromium.. no errors. :/
289. # [06:13] <paul_irish> if theres any place for me to try to debug better.. let me know
290. # [06:13] <paul_irish> ill help fixxx
291. # [06:13] <antonkovalyov> oh yeah let me download it real quick
292. # [06:13] <paul_irish> NiftyLettuce: sounds hot dude
293. # [06:13] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: like moodle/drupal/symfony
294. # [06:13] <paul_irish> yaaa
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296. # [06:14] <NiftyLettuce> paul_irish: I plan to do it on moodle/drupal anyways within next week
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299. # [06:15] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, where do i download latest build? i fail at this :(
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303. # [06:17] <antonkovalyov> ok found it
304. # [06:18] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, what is the difference between Mac and chromium-rel-mac directories on http://build.chromium.org/f/chromium/snapshots/?
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307. # [06:23] <antonkovalyov> hm seems to be fine locally
308. # [06:23] <antonkovalyov> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/447925/Screenshots/ejw6-yi1x~l6.png
309. # [06:24] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, do you have an url where it does not load?
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316. # [06:38] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: http://www.css-101.org/
317. # [06:38] <paul_irish> loads successfully in chrome dev channel.. fails in my chromium.. 10.0.626.0 (70323)
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319. # [06:39] <paul_irish> maybe the regression got fixed in your build? i can update when i get off the shuttle
320. # [06:39] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, loads for me. odd. have you tried in 10.0.629.0?
321. # [06:39] <NiftyLettuce> chao \o
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323. # [06:40] <nimbupani> paul_irish: you got all your answers?
324. # [06:40] <nimbupani> i think it would be awes if they can just start with blur and desaturate
325. # [06:40] <dmachi1> works in v9
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327. # [06:41] <paul_irish> nimbupani: i still want europe to respond
328. # [06:41] <nimbupani> :)
329. # [06:41] <paul_irish> yah saturation is good.. seems like the strongest #2 behind blur
330. # [06:41] <paul_irish> alex askd for Chroma-key which i love
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332. # [06:42] <nimbupani> i think anything else will be significantly complex :/
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334. # [06:43] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, i downloaded 70323, still loads. could you give me a screenshot from the network pane?
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336. # [06:43] <dmachi1> nimbupani: hmm, what are you guys referring to if you don't mind me asking
337. # [06:44] <nimbupani> http://twitter.com/paul_irish/status/22847458832814080
338. # [06:44] <nimbupani> twitterhapy is down with peol i guess :/
339. # [06:44] <dmachi1> i'm bad at checking it frequently enough, my bad. Looks cool though. chroma would be cool there too
340. # [06:45] <dmachi1> thanks nimbupani
341. # [06:45] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: http://paulirish.com/i/4831.png
342. # [06:45] <nimbupani> no worries dmachi1
343. # [06:46] <antonkovalyov> hm i don't like those two embed.js redirects
344. # [06:46] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: ill be home and can update proper in 7min
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346. # [06:46] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, cool ok
347. # [06:47] <antonkovalyov> don't uhm irc while driving? :)
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349. # [06:47] <paul_irish> shuttling!
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351. # [06:47] <nimbupani> he is on a bus
352. # [06:48] <antonkovalyov> keep forgetting that you have shuttles :-) never worked on a big company
353. # [06:48] <nimbupani> ha ha ha
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360. # [06:58] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: sry. :(
361. # [06:58] <paul_irish> chrome extension was fucking it up.
362. # [06:58] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, no worries. what extension?
363. # [06:58] <paul_irish> first step to bug reduction in chrome.. try it in incognito (which has no extensions)
364. # [06:58] <paul_irish> whooops
365. # [06:59] <antonkovalyov> i need to know all the cases when disqus is failing to load
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367. # [07:00] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hgiihiookhijpbhaflohognbhmamdnol
368. # [07:00] <paul_irish> shitty extension is super tempermental.
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370. # [07:00] <paul_irish> shitty shit
371. # [07:00] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, oh that makes sense :)
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374. # [07:01] <paul_irish> yup. its default list is wayy too agressive
375. # [07:02] <paul_irish> jerks.
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377. # [07:02] <paul_irish> sorry i ever doubted yr coadz
378. # [07:02] <antonkovalyov> haha
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388. # [07:33] <paul_irish> btw FF4 beta 9 next thursday.
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401. # [08:17] <antonkovalyov> ? eval Array.prototype.join
402. # [08:18] <bot-t> antonkovalyov: <function join() {[native code]}>
403. # [08:18] <antonkovalyov> bot-t: eval Array.prototype.join
404. # [08:18] <bot-t> antonkovalyov: <function join() {[native code]}>
405. # [08:18] <antonkovalyov> bot-t: eval (function () { Array.prototype.join = function () { return ''; }; }());
406. # [08:18] <bot-t> antonkovalyov: No output.
407. # [08:18] <antonkovalyov> bot-t: eval Array.prototype.join
408. # [08:18] <bot-t> antonkovalyov: <function join() {[native code]}>
409. # [08:19] <antonkovalyov> bot-t: eval (function () { Array.prototype.join = function () { return ''; }; return Array.prototype.join }());
410. # [08:19] <bot-t> antonkovalyov: No output.
411. # [08:20] <antonkovalyov> bot-t: eval Array.prototype.join = function () { return ''; }; return Array.prototype.join;
412. # [08:20] <bot-t> antonkovalyov: SyntaxError: return not in function
413. # [08:20] <antonkovalyov> errr
414. # [08:20] <antonkovalyov> bot-t: eval Array.prototype.join = function () { return ''; }; Array.prototype.join;
415. # [08:20] <bot-t> antonkovalyov: No output.
416. # [08:20] <antonkovalyov> oh well
417. # [08:20] <paul_irish> ?gl
418. # [08:20] <bot-t> http://goodluckwiththatdude.com/
419. # [08:21] <antonkovalyov> hah
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421. # [08:24] <antonkovalyov> is it open source?
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425. # [08:46] <paul_irish> antonkovalyov: is what? the bot?
426. # [08:46] <antonkovalyov> yeah
427. # [08:47] <paul_irish> not yet but temp01 is working ferverishly to open source a python version of bot-t.
428. # [08:47] <paul_irish> ?g github gf3 irc bot
429. # [08:47] <bot-t> paul_irish, Stored "not yet but temp01".
430. # [08:47] <bot-t> paul_irish, gf3/Jerk - GitHub - https://github.com/gf3/Jerk
431. # [08:48] <paul_irish> jerk is a pretty sweet irc bot tho. we use him from time to time
432. # [08:48] <antonkovalyov> oh ok thanks. was thinking about modifiying it for disqus internal purposes
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447. # [09:32] <mikew3c> http://markdotto.com/playground/3d-text/ seems kind of nice
448. # [09:33] <paul_irish> i added it to http://mothereffingtextshadow.com/ :)
449. # [09:33] <mikew3c> solid
450. # [09:35] <paul_irish> mikew3c: looks like a patch is available for the css validator http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator-css/2010Dec/0011.html to tweak the handling of prefixes.. is there a good person to poke on this?
451. # [09:35] <mikew3c> paul_irish: not sure, probably Yves Lafon
452. # [09:36] <mikew3c> I will ping him right now
453. # [09:36] <paul_irish> cool. earlier in that thread someone mentioned much of the team was receptive to such a patch
454. # [09:37] <mikew3c> yeah
455. # [09:37] <mikew3c> the basic problem with the current CSS validator is the same as with the current markup validator
456. # [09:37] <mikew3c> which is that the backend code is old, crufty stuff
457. # [09:37] <mikew3c> which nobody wants to maintain any more
458. # [09:38] <paul_irish> hehe
459. # [09:38] <mikew3c> lipstick on a pig kind of thing
460. # [09:39] <mikew3c> the better way forward or the CSS validator is something like what Dan Connolly started on a while back
461. # [09:39] <mikew3c> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/css-val/
462. # [09:40] <mikew3c> but that requires formal grammar for current CSS
463. # [09:40] <mikew3c> CSS3
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465. # [09:40] <paul_irish> ah
466. # [09:40] <beevi7> hi
467. # [09:41] <mikew3c> paul_irish: which requires updating http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-syntax/Overview.src.html
468. # [09:41] <beevi7> anyone here who has a good and easy to understand indexedDB tutorial for me?
469. # [09:42] <beevi7> :)
470. # [09:42] <paul_irish> beevi7: http://www.html5rocks.com/tutorials/indexeddb/todo/
471. # [09:42] <mikew3c> would be great to have an active editor that that syntax doc
472. # [09:42] <beevi7> thanks
473. # [09:43] <mikew3c> paul_irish: Yves sez, "I will ping them about that (I like to make this an option)"
474. # [09:43] <beevi7> btw, i'm sad websql is discontinued
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476. # [09:44] <paul_irish> mikew3c: cool! thx
477. # [09:44] <mikew3c> btw, for anybody interested : http://twitter.com/w3c/status/22771513463672832
478. # [09:44] <mikew3c> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Recruitment/Overview.html#Training
479. # [09:44] <mikew3c> "Training Specialist - W3C is looking for a new team member to organize the creation of training courses"
480. # [09:44] <paul_irish> !!
481. # [09:45] <paul_irish> that's fantastic.
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497. # [10:22] <obert-> something cool in html5 that there isnt in html4/xhtml?
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505. # [10:31] <paul_irish> ?g differences html5 html4 spec w3c
506. # [10:31] <bot-t> paul_irish, HTML5 differences from HTML4 - http://dev.w3.org/html5/html4-differences/
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527. # [11:22] <ACTRAiSER_> Hi Guys ... woah .. haven't used IRC in 10 years or so ... good old times
528. # [11:23] <shwetank> i generally dont use it too, just starting to use it again myself :)
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530. # [11:23] <ACTRAiSER_> i miss good old mirc ... didnt find the os x clients so good, now using chatzilla
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532. # [11:27] <shwetank> me using colloquy
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534. # [11:42] <mikew3c> colloquy rocks the casbah
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536. # [11:47] <henrikkok> +1 on colloquy
537. # [11:47] <henrikkok> or Adium
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539. # [11:48] <henrikkok> they added support for IRC recently
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561. # [12:23] <ron_frown> i'd really like to use websockets on my site... believe I have a legitimate use for it
562. # [12:23] <ron_frown> I had a couple questions
563. # [12:24] <ron_frown> it seems socket.io gets around some of the limitations of browsers (eg, browsers that dont yet support websockets etc)
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578. # [13:37] <matjas> <sup> guys?
579. # [13:37] <matjas> yes ron_frown, socket.io falls back to a bunch of other techniques in case the websocket api is not available
580. # [13:37] <matjas> ?david walsh websocket
581. # [13:37] <matjas> ?g david walsh websocket @ ron_frown
582. # [13:37] <bot-t> matjas, Couldn't find "david walsh websocket" in jQuery Docs.
583. # [13:37] <bot-t> ron_frown, WebSocket and Socket.IO - David Walsh - http://davidwalsh.name/websocket
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587. # [13:54] <remysharp> matjas: I'm not massively keen on socket.io because it abstracts WebSockets
588. # [13:55] <remysharp> and WebSockets are insanely easy
589. # [13:55] <remysharp> sure it adds heartbeat
590. # [13:55] <matjas> remysharp: sure, it abstracts away from the official API but that’s kinda necessary when you’re using one of 6 different techniques
591. # [13:56] <remysharp> aye
592. # [13:56] <remysharp> but it's easy to swap in Flash Sockets as a backup
593. # [13:56] <remysharp> realistically I can't see flash being blocked in corporate networks that use real-time shizzle
594. # [13:56] <remysharp> so I'm happy with just native or flash for sockets
595. # [13:57] <matjas> serving a crossdomain.xml at port 843 might be a problem for coporate networks though
596. # [13:57] <matjas> corporate*
597. # [13:57] <remysharp> some, but very, very few
598. # [13:57] <remysharp> or
599. # [13:58] <remysharp> actually - I don't have anything to support that
600. # [13:58] <remysharp> just experience
601. # [13:58] <matjas> remysharp: förbind looks interesting
602. # [13:58] <remysharp> which doesn't reach /that/ far in corp
603. # [13:58] <remysharp> cheers
604. # [13:58] <remysharp> hopefully releasing alpha accounts this month
605. # [13:58] <remysharp> just needs a little bit more work
606. # [13:58] <remysharp> cleaning up admin accounts and thinking about architecture on backend
607. # [13:58] <ACTRAiSER> Hi there
608. # [13:59] <remysharp> was thinking of submitting a jsconf talk about how I built it - pure JS (ftw!)
609. # [14:01] <matjas> remysharp: why not? sounds interesting!
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612. # [14:04] <ACTRAiSER> god ... finden JS-Engineers for Germany is more tedious than anything I can think of right now including listening to Shakira
613. # [14:05] <ACTRAiSER> finding even
614. # [14:05] <remysharp> matjas: just want to be sure I've got enough material for a 45 min talk, that's all :)
615. # [14:19] <beevi7> i'm from germany
616. # [14:20] <beevi7> how can i possibly help you? ;)
617. # [14:20] <beevi7> ACTRAiSER
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619. # [14:22] <ACTRAiSER> bee: well, I look for great JavaScript engineers for permanent positions in our office in Frankfurt ...
620. # [14:22] <ACTRAiSER> so if you are a looking for a really exciting job, this might be the place :)
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622. # [14:24] <ACTRAiSER> ok now this is awesome, my email to the IT department resulted in : The recipient's mailbox is full and can't accept messages now.
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625. # [14:29] <danielfilho> ACTRAiSER: at least, in germany you have snow. and cold. and blonds. and loads of beer. screw js engineers, who needs them with all that?
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627. # [14:29] <beevi7> exactly
628. # [14:30] <ACTRAiSER> heh
629. # [14:30] <ACTRAiSER> well, today i literally was able to ice skate to the office ... it was really dangerous
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631. # [14:30] <ACTRAiSER> cant wait for spring
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633. # [14:35] <danielfilho> can't wait for apocalypse.
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673. # [15:32] <actAtWork> like the stuff from hyperandroid https://github.com/hyperandroid/CAAT
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716. # [16:43] <actAtWork> and by the way, here is the job we offer right now for Frankfurt, Germany. http://hire.jobvite.com/CompanyJobs/Careers.aspx?k=Job&c=qoX9Vfw9&j=oMxyVfww .. if you have questions, let me know
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718. # [16:46] <realityking> zynga is based in germany? didn't know that
719. # [16:46] <ACTRAiSER> well, Zynga Germany is .. Zynga world headquarters is in San Francisco
720. # [16:46] <ACTRAiSER> but there is also Zynga Japan, Zynga Beijing etc
721. # [16:47] * realityking didn't realize how big Zynga is
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723. # [16:47] <ACTRAiSER> 1300+ employees the last time i counted :)
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725. # [16:48] <ACTRAiSER> but we are the smallest of them all in Frankfurt ... hence the hiring
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729. # [16:54] <nimbupani> ?tell fyrd Updated html5readiness :)
730. # [16:54] <bot-t> nimbupani, Okay.
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735. # [16:57] <tw2113> what other words do you all think of when you think of "industrial"
736. # [16:57] <zachleat> SFWeekly seems to think Zynga is not a good employer: http://www.sfweekly.com/2010-09-08/news/farmvillains/
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744. # [16:59] <ACTRAiSER> zach: yes i know that epic story of sfweekly ... but i dont really know anyone from my US collegues who dont love their work and the company
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748. # [17:02] <zachleat> I think that every company has a certain amount of bad PR, it just helps to know about it in order to make an informed decision
749. # [17:02] <ACTRAiSER> i think you will find such a story for every big company in the valley .. google, facebook, name it. Success comes with a price
750. # [17:05] <zachleat> Well, I don't know about that, the SFWeekly story was one of the worst I've read in a long time
751. # [17:06] <zachleat> I wonder if Zynga is on that employer review website, forgot the name
752. # [17:06] <zachleat> Glassdoor
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768. # [17:28] <zcorpan> yay :) http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/css3-object-fit-object-position/
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770. # [17:29] <felcom> ooo that's nice
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772. # [17:29] <fyrd> Glad to see the update, nimbupani and paul_irish . :)
773. # [17:29] <bot-t> (35 mins 10 secs ago) <nimbupani> tell fyrd Updated html5readiness :)
774. # [17:30] <nimbupani> yay fyrd :)
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777. # [17:34] <tw2113> lawls "If a visitor is surfing the Web with IE6 and JS turned off, their experience of the whole Web will be pretty dreadful and your site won?t be any worse."
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782. # [17:38] <fyrd> tw2113: Yeah, woe that user.
783. # [17:38] <fyrd> Wonder how many of those there are.
784. # [17:40] <felcom> everyone who works at citibank i know for sure
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786. # [17:40] <felcom> had a horrible time doing work with them
787. # [17:40] <felcom> oh JS turned of...nm lol
788. # [17:40] <felcom> off*
789. # [17:40] * tw2113 worked for citibank SD for awhile
790. # [17:41] <tw2113> contracted at least, it was front desk security
791. # [17:41] <tw2113> i had fun giggling once i technically became a customer for a health card that I don't use THAT frequently
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793. # [17:42] <tw2113> because I was a customer facilitating the entry to the building so they could work, which in the long run was working to serve me
794. # [17:42] <tw2113> :D
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824. # [18:26] <paul_irish> matjas: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/commit/e4183675f144a654b955f2a90776c7f83c9a2143
825. # [18:26] <paul_irish> see comment as well
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852. # [19:02] <mokush> you guys know anything like opera unite but open source?
853. # [19:04] <Michael> I do not
854. # [19:04] <Michael> I didn't even know what that was until I looked it up. I rarely use opera
855. # [19:05] <Michael> Opera hasn't offered me any compelling reasons to use it over say Chrome or FF
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858. # [19:07] <matjas> groovy paul_irish
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861. # [19:09] <matjas> paul_irish: i told you you could get rid of the schemes before
862. # [19:09] <matjas> paul_irish: g.src=('https:'==location.protocol?'//ssl':'//www')+'.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
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864. # [19:09] <matjas> g.async=1 instead of true
865. # [19:10] <matjas> paul_irish: looks like you’re missing a space after `var`, no?
866. # [19:10] <matjas> you can omit var anyways, but meh
867. # [19:10] <mokush> Michael: well I'm just looking for an alternative to the Unite part of it
868. # [19:11] <matjas> i’d just stick to the current snippet with the scheme and async=1 optimizations, it's kind of a balance between readability and shortness/efficiency
869. # [19:11] <Michael> mokush, I know. was just voicing my opinion
870. # [19:11] <Michael> Hoping someone would be like "You obviously haven't seen feature XYZ"
871. # [19:12] <mokush> Michael: since we're starting the browser-hate topic agaib: what do you think? Does FF4 stand a change against chrome?
872. # [19:12] <paul_irish> tab stacking, bro.
873. # [19:12] <paul_irish> its the jam
874. # [19:12] <paul_irish> also remember how opera invented tabs? true story.
875. # [19:13] <Michael> mokush, Not hating. I just don't understand why someone would use Opera over Chrome
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878. # [19:14] <Michael> Except for the fact that Google tracks your very soul.
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880. # [19:14] <mokush> Michael: that's why you need to use chromium from trunk
881. # [19:14] <Michael> hmm
882. # [19:14] <nimbupani> Opera also has the turbo mode which makes it faster when you use internet outside US.
883. # [19:15] <mokush> paul_irish: will ff4 get back on track and defeat the evil soul-mongering chrome? :P
884. # [19:15] <nimbupani> its too loaded a question.
885. # [19:15] <paul_irish> beta 9 scheduled for one week from now
886. # [19:15] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, http://www.quora.com/Will-Google-continue-incrementing-Chrome-version-numbers-at-its-current-rate-in-perpetuity :)
887. # [19:16] <paul_irish> i should answer that...
888. # [19:16] <paul_irish> "Yup."
889. # [19:17] <antonkovalyov> that would be a perfectly fine answer for this question
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893. # [19:21] <tw2113> this makes baby jesus cry and internet kittens commit suicide: "<th><div class="headerCellContainer"><div class="verticalTableHeader">Jan-01</div></div></th>"
894. # [19:22] <Michael> ouch
895. # [19:22] <Michael> it's not containing the header cell!
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900. # [19:23] <tw2113> such lovely people in #css
901. # [19:23] <Michael> really?
902. # [19:23] <Michael> That's new.
903. # [19:24] <tw2113> crap forgot the sarcasm tag
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907. # [19:30] <mokush> tw2113: people in #css mostly hate html, and that's why they do those things. they do it on purpose.
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911. # [19:34] <sean`> ?translate perpetuity
912. # [19:34] <bot-t> sean`, Translation (English -> English) - perpetuity
913. # [19:34] <sean`> ?translate perpetuity to dutch
914. # [19:34] <bot-t> sean`, Translation (English -> Dutch) - eeuwigheid
915. # [19:34] <tw2113> makes no sense to me since they all go together
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918. # [19:35] <antonkovalyov> ?translate perpetuity to russian
919. # [19:35] <bot-t> antonkovalyov, Translation (English -> Russian) - бесконечность
920. # [19:35] <antonkovalyov> oh
921. # [19:35] <sean`> 6?
922. # [19:35] <antonkovalyov> hm?
923. # [19:36] <sean`> nvm .. б != 6
924. # [19:36] <antonkovalyov> sean`, yeah it is russian b
925. # [19:36] <sean`> cewl
926. # [19:36] <antonkovalyov> or rather cyrillic
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940. # [19:57] <antonkovalyov> http://www.wait-till-i.com/2011/01/06/interviewed-bruce-lawson-for-mozilla/
941. # [19:57] <antonkovalyov> uh, photo...
942. # [19:57] <Michael> dude
943. # [19:57] <Michael> I'm sorry I loaded that
944. # [19:57] <Michael> I work for Disney :P
945. # [19:57] <Michael> NSFW++
946. # [19:58] <paul_irish> lol
947. # [19:58] <antonkovalyov> haha
948. # [19:58] <cgcardona> haha
949. # [19:58] <cgcardona> lolz
950. # [19:59] <Michael> Mickey does not approve
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952. # [19:59] <miketaylr> haha
953. # [20:00] <wontoner> that guy must really like HTML
954. # [20:00] <Michael> And hate web users
955. # [20:00] <miketaylr> we're making a calendar
956. # [20:00] <Michael> I took that as a personal slap in the face
957. # [20:01] <tw2113> i saw that earlier
958. # [20:01] <miketaylr> i'll tell bruce you said that, Michael
959. # [20:01] <tw2113> paul you may like aaron's latest tweet about textmate2
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962. # [20:01] <Michael> miketaylr, No! I don't want him to know that I saw him naked
963. # [20:02] <tw2113> you didn't see the important parts Michael
964. # [20:02] <Michael> Important to who? Lol
965. # [20:02] <tw2113> which, ironically, are small enough to be mostly covered by a book
966. # [20:02] <antonkovalyov> hahah
967. # [20:02] <tw2113> i do agree that Bruce has a wonderful sense of humor though
968. # [20:03] <miketaylr> and a great bod.
969. # [20:03] <miketaylr> bruce is the awesomest
970. # [20:03] <Michael> Who is he?
971. # [20:03] <antonkovalyov> i like the NEWT
972. # [20:03] <tw2113> @brucel
973. # [20:03] <tw2113> he co-wrote the book he's cavorting with in bed
974. # [20:04] <Michael> I'll never know what that is lol
975. # [20:04] <miketaylr> my co-worker
976. # [20:04] <Michael> I just saw skin and closed the window
977. # [20:04] <Michael> Oh
978. # [20:04] <tw2113> http://introducinghtml5.com/
979. # [20:04] <tw2113> damn it, i feel awesome and lame all at once
980. # [20:05] <tw2113> i like the company i am with now, but i talk with all these people in here who work for opera or mozilla or chrome
981. # [20:05] <tw2113> well, google
982. # [20:05] <miketaylr> go join MS and round us out!
983. # [20:05] <tw2113> kiss my what?
984. # [20:05] <paul_irish> ^ ^
985. # [20:05] <miketaylr> haha
986. # [20:06] <paul_irish> miketaylr: so happy we have hober at apple now
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988. # [20:06] <paul_irish> that's HUGE
989. # [20:06] <miketaylr> yeah!
990. # [20:06] <paul_irish> now we need an in on the ie team
991. # [20:06] <antonkovalyov> haha
992. # [20:06] <tw2113> it does present a good question though...would we allow someone from MS in here?
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994. # [20:06] <miketaylr> aw, of course
995. # [20:07] <nimbupani> there is nothing to "allow"
996. # [20:07] <tw2113> what if they're MS Spies looking to steal classified information
997. # [20:07] <antonkovalyov> tw2113, you are not alone :)
998. # [20:07] <tw2113> oh wait, this is the OPEN web
999. # [20:07] * tw2113 goes back to work, defeated
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1001. # [20:09] <paul_irish> btw ya'll here was the summary of my css filter poll http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Jan/0049.html
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1004. # [20:10] <danielfilho> this new twitter 4 mac is sexy.
1005. # [20:10] <miketaylr> weak, it didn't include my suggestions
1006. # [20:10] <snover> paul_irish: nice. incidentally, that seems to match my list of wants almost perfectly
1007. # [20:10] <paul_irish> sweet!
1008. # [20:10] <snover> though I want compositing modes more than blur
1009. # [20:10] <paul_irish> blur is a gimme. so whatev :)
1010. # [20:10] <snover> much more
1011. # [20:11] <mokush> we shoud just call balmer to join
1012. # [20:11] * tw2113 makes a jquery animated dropdown login tab dance
1013. # [20:11] <tw2113> so we can throw cans at him and make him dance?
1014. # [20:12] <tw2113> he'd have to go install mIRC and get nagged by the donation plea notice every time he started it up
1015. # [20:12] <snover> my site uses a grain overlay to improve the perceptual appearance of a large, highly compressed background image, but it doesn’t look as good as it would with a screen blending mode
1016. # [20:12] <tw2113> he'd be all like "why did this guy steal the idea from wikipedia?"
1017. # [20:12] <paul_irish> plus noise!
1018. # [20:12] <snover> also being able to have the noise generated on the client instead would be great
1019. # [20:12] <tw2113> and "how can MS profit from this idea"
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1023. # [20:15] <mokush> Balmer: "IE9 for WP7?! You gotta be shttin' me! Just use IE7 and fire the IE dev team"
1024. # [20:15] <mokush> "developers! developers! developers!"
1025. # [20:15] <snover> DON’T SIT DOWN!
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1027. # [20:17] <tw2113> i wonder if they have their own rooms where they make fun of us
1028. # [20:17] <tw2113> "wha...huh!?!?!? share my code?!?!? wtf you smoking this week? I need to protect my code like it's my precious"
1029. # [20:18] <mokush> tw2113: sure they do, it's called codeplex
1030. # [20:18] <tw2113> shhh you're ruining the illusion
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1032. # [20:23] <mpilgrim> lol xhtml=true
1033. # [20:24] <nimbupani> omg
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1035. # [20:26] <nimbupani> http://www.java.com/en/
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1037. # [20:27] <miketaylr> writing some jsp?
1038. # [20:27] <nimbupani> no just crying a little to see where it has come down to.
1039. # [20:27] <tw2113> whee! i get to open photoshop
1040. # [20:27] <nimbupani> i was gonna download sloppy
1041. # [20:27] <nimbupani> to do some low bandwidth testing.
1042. # [20:27] <antonkovalyov> oh wow
1043. # [20:27] <mpilgrim> and Angry Birds
1044. # [20:27] <tw2113> sad things make nimbupani sad
1045. # [20:27] <tw2113> *nods*
1046. # [20:27] <miketaylr> i like the 9000 line breaks before the doctype on that page, nimbupani
1047. # [20:28] <tw2113> 9000, 226
1048. # [20:28] <tw2113> it's just math, who needs that
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1051. # [20:28] <nimbupani> o wow
1052. # [20:29] <tw2113> i wonder if subway's site is still aweful
1053. # [20:29] <nimbupani> ha ha X-UA-Compatible IE=7
1054. # [20:29] <nimbupani> java java java java
1055. # [20:29] <nimbupani> to think I once did my Final Year Project on the blasted J2ME
1056. # [20:29] <tw2113> nimbupani, i hate to do this, but i need to make you cry again
1057. # [20:29] <tw2113> view-source:http://www.subway.com/subwayroot/index.aspx
1058. # [20:30] <nimbupani> subway does not make me cry tw2113
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1060. # [20:30] <tw2113> well, when your view source output puts the doctype at line 169...it may
1061. # [20:30] <nimbupani> i dont expect anything more from a fast food provider
1062. # [20:31] <tw2113> even more fun...do a command+f on that source and type "reddit"
1063. # [20:32] <nimbupani> he he he
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1068. # [20:37] <tw2113> lawls http://chicksontheright.com/2011/01/06/i-really-mean-it-this-time/
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1072. # [20:42] <tw2113> <label> tags only need to go around the text that will accompany an input right? the actual input can be somewhere else
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1074. # [20:44] <mokush> does requirejs freeze the browser while loading anything?
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1076. # [20:52] <paul_irish> OH: "does anyone know jeffrey zeldman?"
1077. # [20:55] <tw2113> who's that short guy?
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1109. # [21:46] <mokush> paul_irish: does anyone know paul irish?
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1113. # [21:57] <Moo--> mokush: paul irish knows
1114. # [21:57] <Moo--> :)
1115. # [21:57] <mokush> Moo--: only the nose knows
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1119. # [22:03] <paul_irish> OH NOES
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1129. # [22:15] <J_A_X> anyone ever had a maven project running for js?
1130. # [22:16] <wontoner> tw2113: I'm amazed that subway site even works
1131. # [22:16] <tw2113> *nods*
1132. # [22:18] <wontoner> close html tag right in the middle of table haha
1133. # [22:20] <tw2113> you saw the reddit bit right?
1134. # [22:20] <tw2113> mostly due to a wave of discussion on reddit getting back to them
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1140. # [22:37] <wontoner> Yeah I'm not sure what to make of that
1141. # [22:37] <wontoner> Its a nice explanation, but.. I have to wonder what the hell they're thinking
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1143. # [22:38] <tw2113> they're corporate workers
1144. # [22:38] <wontoner> 'hey we shipped all these cars without ignitions, but its totally due to this wacky diagrams the designers handed us.. they're really hard to read man!'
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1150. # [22:59] <miketaylr> later chipotle
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