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  1. # Session Start: Sun Feb 13 00:00:00 2011
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  17. # [00:53] <chriseppstein> paul_irish: http://favstar.fm/users/chriseppstein/status/36498367672492032
  18. # [00:54] <paul_irish> we received a takedown already
  19. # [00:54] <paul_irish> so bye bye
  20. # [00:54] <chriseppstein> wow
  21. # [00:54] <paul_irish> 3.8 hours response time from spoon
  22. # [00:54] <chriseppstein> lame
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  34. # [01:16] <Pewpewarrows> wow a takedown notice that fast?
  35. # [01:16] <Pewpewarrows> glad I got them when I did :/
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  38. # [01:19] <jo-erlend> sandboxed IEs? Virtualized and using a terminal server or something?
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  51. # [01:52] <themiddleman> I use iecollection for testing in ies
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  62. # [02:26] <andrewjbaker> Reflection mapping sexiness added to my HTML5 canvas 2.5D landscape renderer at http://fleetingfantasy.com/ And no WebGL in sight. I is happy. ;-)
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  195. # [14:18] <svenlito> im trying to port the BP build to work with another cms, it does everything, goes through all files cleans em up, attaches versions to css and js files but doesn't rewrite script paths...
  196. # [14:18] <svenlito> :/
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  200. # [15:11] <svenlito> ok i got it. scripts need to be wrapped in comments...
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  251. # [18:37] <paul_irish> http://my.opera.com/karlcow/blog/2011/02/13/web-standards-links
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  257. # [18:50] <mokush> anybody used stealjs from javascriptmvc?
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  279. # [19:47] <jetienne> q. is there a lib adding all the "missing" js functions if needed. like array.forEach or object.keys()
  280. # [19:48] <Pewpewarrows> jetienne: look into underscore.js
  281. # [19:48] <jetienne> Pewpewarrows: ?? underscore doesnt modify the global objects, correct ?
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  284. # [19:49] <Pewpewarrows> correct, but it gives you everything you'd need
  285. # [19:49] <jetienne> ok
  286. # [19:49] <Pewpewarrows> like _.keys(Object)
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  289. # [19:50] <jetienne> Pewpewarrows: i understand your point
  290. # [19:51] <jetienne> Pewpewarrows: do you know is boilerplate is adding the "missings" function on the global objects ?
  291. # [19:52] <cheilmann_> why would it?
  292. # [19:52] <jetienne> mozilla docs got a lot of compatibility functions
  293. # [19:52] <Pewpewarrows> I don't know about the opinion of its authors like paul_irish, but I generally frown upon modifying the global objects
  294. # [19:52] <jetienne> cheilmann_: i guess you mean it doesnt ?
  295. # [19:52] <cheilmann_> Boilerplate is there to kick-start a working HTML5 project
  296. # [19:53] <cheilmann_> not to turn JS into something else
  297. # [19:53] <jetienne> cheilmann_: just say yes or no ?
  298. # [19:53] <Pewpewarrows> any other libs could be messing with the globals
  299. # [19:53] <cheilmann_> why are these "missing"? Who is there to define that.
  300. # [19:53] <jetienne> i just want to know if it does it or not
  301. # [19:53] <Pewpewarrows> it's bad to rely on it
  302. # [19:53] <cheilmann_> The answer is "I don't know"
  303. # [19:53] <jetienne> ok
  304. # [19:53] <cheilmann_> the other answer would be "this is dead easy to find out - just try it"
  305. # [19:54] <cheilmann_> I am quite sure mootools will add most of them, too as it was started with the idea of making JS "proper OO"
  306. # [19:55] <jetienne> i would like a function which add the uptodate functions. i guess somebody did it
  307. # [19:55] <Pewpewarrows> jetienne: the only thing boilerplate adds iirc is a global "log" function to the window
  308. # [19:55] <jetienne> mozilla didnt do all those compatibility function for nothing :)
  309. # [19:55] <Pewpewarrows> and that's it
  310. # [19:55] <jetienne> Pewpewarrows: well unfortunatly this one is not standard :)
  311. # [19:56] <Pewpewarrows> what isn't
  312. # [19:56] <jetienne> log global function
  313. # [19:56] <Pewpewarrows> right, that's why they added it
  314. # [19:57] <Pewpewarrows> and I don't know what you mean by uptodate functions
  315. # [19:57] <paul_irish> jetienne: what are you asking anyways :)
  316. # [19:57] <paul_irish> also.. see ?g es5-shim github
  317. # [19:57] <bot-t> paul_irish, kriskowal/es5-shim - GitHub - https://github.com/kriskowal/es5-shim
  318. # [19:57] <jetienne> paul_irish: ah! thanks
  319. # [19:58] <paul_irish> check the readme, he just updated it to point to the SAFE shims vs dubious ones
  320. # [19:58] <Pewpewarrows> oh, he wanted to have cross-browser ES5 support
  321. # [19:58] <Pewpewarrows> got it
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  349. # [21:20] <themiddleman> Anyone know of a hashchange supplement like bbq that is standalone (not a jquery plugin)?
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  353. # [21:30] <niftylettuce> \o/
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  360. # [21:52] <cheilmann_> themiddleman:
  361. # [21:52] <cheilmann_> https://github.com/balupton/History.js/
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  390. # [23:21] <themiddleman> cheilmann_: woah nice, thanks
  391. # [23:22] <cheilmann_> yeah it is very cool
  392. # [23:22] <key> ??
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