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  35. # [01:02] <YammYgirlcoding> guys. I made this html5 page, but it's not rendering right in IE, can someone tell me why? http://www.escomex.com.br/novo/home.html
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  64. # [02:17] <bonhoffer> i am trying to get this video to load -- flash is only an ie backup -- but it isn't working
  65. # [02:17] <bonhoffer> http://www.crossfitadaptation.com/benefits/
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  68. # [02:25] <tw2113> i don't even see a video tag in the view source for that
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  70. # [02:26] <bonhoffer> i copied the source from http://flowplayer.org/demos/installation/alternate/object-w3c.htm
  71. # [02:27] <bonhoffer> i do have a video tag with webm, mp4 etc
  72. # [02:27] <bonhoffer> but i am trying to get the flash degrade to work
  73. # [02:27] <bonhoffer> it looks like i don't need any javascript
  74. # [02:28] <bonhoffer> any thoughts?
  75. # [02:28] <tw2113> well, i'm hitting view source and ctrl+f to search for <video> and get nothing
  76. # [02:28] <tw2113> i also find it a little odd to see a <br/> tag in the middoe of the opening object tag
  77. # [02:33] <bonhoffer> oh let me get that
  78. # [02:33] <bonhoffer> the http://flowplayer.org/demos/installation/alternate/object-w3c.htm doesn't use html5, i wonder if that is the difference
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  81. # [02:36] <tw2113> probably
  82. # [02:36] <bonhoffer> ok -- it was the < /> crap in there
  83. # [02:36] <bonhoffer> fixed it
  84. # [02:36] <bonhoffer> see it now
  85. # [02:37] <tw2113> i still see no <video> tag
  86. # [02:37] <tw2113> if that's what you're concerned about
  87. # [02:37] <tw2113> the video is working this time though with the flash version
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  90. # [02:40] <bonhoffer> just got that working -- now i am bringing in the non-microsoft code
  91. # [02:41] <tw2113> ;)
  92. # [02:41] <bonhoffer> but the video is white
  93. # [02:42] <bonhoffer> is the image showing up
  94. # [02:42] <bonhoffer> for you?
  95. # [02:42] <tw2113> at first, yes, but if you pause and replay, it seems to show up
  96. # [02:43] <tw2113> ugh, i'm not liking that flash player
  97. # [02:43] <tw2113> it feels very buggy
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  102. # [02:48] <bonhoffer> yeah -- it sucks
  103. # [02:50] <bonhoffer> but i don't think it is flowplayer it is my rendered video
  104. # [02:50] <bonhoffer> that is terrible
  105. # [02:50] <bonhoffer> i'm fixing the world for ie later
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  107. # [02:52] <tw2113> yeah, never do IE first
  108. # [02:54] <bonhoffer> take a lot at it now
  109. # [02:54] <bonhoffer> should be better
  110. # [02:55] <tw2113> much better
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  118. # [03:11] <niftylettuce> :S
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  124. # [03:26] <daveluke> hey anyone around?
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  131. # [03:44] <andrewjbaker> Got a new screenshot for ya' gang, of what I've been working on today. I've made a start on adding billboards (sprites) to my HTML5 canvas 2.5D landscape renderer.
  132. # [03:44] <andrewjbaker> http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3690/landscaperenderer29.png
  133. # [03:45] <andrewjbaker> Notice how the terrain correctly obscures the base of the tree.
  134. # [03:45] <andrewjbaker> Running at 8-11fps on my dev. PC (which is pretty old).
  135. # [03:46] <daveluke> that's all html5?
  136. # [03:46] <andrewjbaker> Yeah, it is mate.
  137. # [03:46] <daveluke> interesting
  138. # [03:46] <daveluke> wanna see the small test i built?
  139. # [03:46] <andrewjbaker> Yeah, go on...
  140. # [03:46] <daveluke> http://socialscorer.com/index_1.html
  141. # [03:46] <daveluke> uses nodejs
  142. # [03:46] <daveluke> :)
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  145. # [03:48] <andrewjbaker> Ha, ha, ha. Fantastic.
  146. # [03:48] <andrewjbaker> What will you use this for?
  147. # [03:48] <daveluke> in case you couldn't tell, that was me moving around too
  148. # [03:48] <daveluke> i wanna make a game like worms with it
  149. # [03:48] <andrewjbaker> Does it use WebSockets?
  150. # [03:48] <daveluke> yeah, socket.io
  151. # [03:49] <andrewjbaker> A game like worms but MMO would be interesting.
  152. # [03:49] <andrewjbaker> Could get messy tho'.
  153. # [03:50] <daveluke> yup.. right now i'm just trying to test out the technology
  154. # [03:50] <daveluke> see what can be done
  155. # [03:50] <andrewjbaker> Yeah, I kinda' thought I'd just dive straight in and see what I works and doesn't while working on an actual game.
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  160. # [03:51] <daveluke> an fps is quite ambitious
  161. # [03:51] <andrewjbaker> You can try out what I have at http://fleetingfantasy.com/ , minus the sprites.
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  163. # [03:52] <daveluke> wow.. pretty impressive
  164. # [03:52] <andrewjbaker> I was especially pleased with the sky reflection in the water. And performance didn't suffer too greatly for it either. That surprised me.
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  169. # [03:59] <ron_frown> I am trying to devise a way of animating an image in... basically like popup video style...
  170. # [04:00] <ron_frown> my question is how can I size/position an image directly in the middle of a div such that I can animate the size and it stays centered up
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  172. # [04:02] <andrewjbaker> Will text-align: center and vertical-align: middle do what you need?
  173. # [04:03] <ron_frown> didnt seem to
  174. # [04:03] <ron_frown> I tried the top/left 50% thing absolutely positioned which understandably doesnt make sense
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  176. # [04:07] <andrewjbaker> If you're using JS, then maybe you could always do img.left = (div.width - img.width) / 2 and img.top = (div.height - img.height) / 2
  177. # [04:07] <andrewjbaker> That'd centre it vertically and horizontally.
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  179. # [04:08] <ron_frown> yeah maybe I will build a little jquery extension
  180. # [04:12] <ron_frown> calculating that
  181. # [04:12] <themiddleman> if you have a static sized element you can center it by making it pos absolute, left and top 50% then margin-left and margin-top - (negative the element width/height) / 2
  182. # [04:13] <ron_frown> will break the easing stuff
  183. # [04:13] <themiddleman> what kind?
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  185. # [04:14] <ron_frown> picture a thumbnail view
  186. # [04:14] <ron_frown> I want to take the image and pop it in
  187. # [04:14] <ron_frown> easeOutBounce from 0px height and width to full size
  188. # [04:14] <themiddleman> from the thumbnail position to the fullscreen position?
  189. # [04:15] <themiddleman> or just from center
  190. # [04:17] <ron_frown> just from the center
  191. # [04:19] <themiddleman> *cough*css3transformscale*cough*
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  193. # [04:23] <ron_frown> good call
  194. # [04:24] <ron_frown> I'll do some reading
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  204. # [05:24] <grantg> paul_irish: I'm rocking some audio code JIT in the js console emulators.
  205. # [05:25] <grantg> where I only generate the samples when an audio I/O register is gonna change
  206. # [05:25] <grantg> So I get loops where I can generate like 1000 samples at once. :D
  207. # [05:25] <grantg> instead of one at a time
  208. # [05:27] <grantg> paul_irish: CPU usage < 60% on some games now
  209. # [05:27] <grantg> in chrome it can get less than 50%
  210. # [05:28] <grantg> And fixed that popping noise bug I introduced recently.
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  217. # [05:52] <grantg> ignore me
  218. # [05:52] <grantg> TL;DR
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  244. # [08:03] <YammYgirlcoding> guys. I'm trying to use ie-css3.htc file together with the googlecode ie9.js but the script seems to be conflicting the htc file. Anyone could help? http://www.escomex.com.br/novo/css3htc.html
  245. # [08:05] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, you here?
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  263. # [09:17] <paul_irish> anton is goan
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  268. # [09:42] <paul_irish> hai! we will take HTML5 questions
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  270. # [09:42] <paul_irish> http://tinychat.com/jquery
  271. # [09:42] <paul_irish> while playing beer pong
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  369. # [15:05] <YammYgirlcoding> guys, anyone here can put ie9.js together with rounded-border.htc ??
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  374. # [15:18] <YammYgirlcoding> guys.I'm trying to use googlecode/ie9.js with border-radius.htc together, but the htc is getting ignored. Can anyone tell me why? http://www.escomex.com.br/novo/css3htc.html
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  433. # [19:18] <themiddleman> http://aresemicolonsnecessaryinjavascript.com/
  434. # [19:18] <themiddleman> what do YOU think? will you stop using them?
  435. # [19:18] <daveluke> hi any impactJS people here?
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  453. # [19:57] <paul_irish> http://mindmolotov.com/ some1 do this in canvas plz
  454. # [20:02] <themiddleman> wow, that hits a whoping 8 fps
  455. # [20:03] <daveluke> http://socialscorer.com/playlobsterdog.html
  456. # [20:03] <daveluke> my awesome socket.io game :)
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  460. # [20:14] <paul_irish> http://www.deathofthediv.com/
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  466. # [20:20] <antonkovalyov> i disagree with music autoplaying on my computer
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  468. # [20:20] <tw2113> that too, with no controls present
  469. # [20:25] <paul_irish> http://gyu.que.jp/wglalbum/
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  471. # [20:29] <antonkovalyov> i thought those were live videos :(
  472. # [20:29] <antonkovalyov> meh
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  478. # [20:59] <paul_irish> http://united-coders.com/matthias-reuter/user-agent-sniffing-is-back
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  483. # [21:10] <nimbupani> cheilmann_: i think p a {} font-size is overriding your #pdf font-size
  484. # [21:10] <nimbupani> not sure why but once I remove that it works fine in Opera.
  485. # [21:11] <cheilmann_> time to calculate specificity
  486. # [21:11] <nimbupani> :))
  487. # [21:11] <cheilmann_> I think Opera is the Douglas Crockford of browsers. Whenever you do things right but you forget one thing that no other browser cares about you see the mistake there.
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  489. # [21:12] <nimbupani> its not about caring but about doing what people agreed to do >_>
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  491. # [21:15] <cheilmann_> yeah I just had a long discussion about CSS animations in the same track :)
  492. # [21:16] <nimbupani> :)
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  496. # [21:34] <paul_irish> Neiluj: selectivzr is getting our fixes landed !
  497. # [21:35] <Neiluj> what?
  498. # [21:36] <Neiluj> sorry, english limit : what do you mean by "landed" please ?
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  500. # [21:37] <Neiluj> "created 20 days" you mean that ? :)
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  502. # [21:38] <Neiluj> Keith told me about another solution from Diego "doScroll" Perini
  503. # [21:39] <Neiluj> but I have no more info :-/
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  506. # [21:45] <cheilmann_> I just used initializr for the fixes for IE: http://icant.co.uk/social-development/
  507. # [21:45] <nimbupani> wooo!
  508. # [21:45] <cheilmann_> notice the TOC script and the numbered links script (for print)
  509. # [21:45] <cheilmann_> I am sure my jQuery is so shit...
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  512. # [21:47] <paul_irish> looks really nice
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  515. # [21:47] <paul_irish> o he left
  516. # [21:49] <nimbupani> :)
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  521. # [22:17] <draginx> Any good html5 chatroom scripts available?
  522. # [22:18] <themiddleman> theres mibbit
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  524. # [22:23] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, heeey
  525. # [22:24] <antonkovalyov> welcome back to america?
  526. # [22:24] <nimbupani> YUZZZ
  527. # [22:24] <nimbupani> I AM BACK!
  528. # [22:24] <antonkovalyov> land of the free
  529. # [22:24] <nimbupani> you bet!
  530. # [22:24] <antonkovalyov> usa usa usa
  531. # [22:24] <antonkovalyov> coca cola sometimes war
  532. # [22:24] <nimbupani> with a 2 hour wait at the immigration
  533. # [22:24] <nimbupani> and almost missed my flight
  534. # [22:24] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, holy shit why?
  535. # [22:24] <nimbupani> coz their "system was down"
  536. # [22:24] <nimbupani> so like 300 people in queue :|||
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  538. # [22:25] <antonkovalyov> did you tell them that you were a part of jshint? they would let you in without questions and upgrade you to business class
  539. # [22:25] <antonkovalyov> wow
  540. # [22:25] <nimbupani> and an anal immigration queue person screaming at the non-US citizens :|
  541. # [22:25] <nimbupani> hahahahaha antonkovalyov if ONLY
  542. # [22:25] <nimbupani> get on with the world domination program!
  543. # [22:25] <antonkovalyov> odd
  544. # [22:26] <nimbupani> never ever land at Washington DC
  545. # [22:26] <nimbupani> ever
  546. # [22:26] <antonkovalyov> border officers were always so good to me :)
  547. # [22:26] <antonkovalyov> oh, i always go through nyc
  548. # [22:26] <nimbupani> they are nice when I went to them to get the actual immigration done
  549. # [22:26] <nimbupani> its these buggers outside the queue screaming at everyone
  550. # [22:26] <antonkovalyov> ah yeah i remember those
  551. # [22:26] <antonkovalyov> i usually listen to my music
  552. # [22:26] <nimbupani> :))
  553. # [22:27] <antonkovalyov> and like "wha? did you say something?" just to piss them off
  554. # [22:27] <nimbupani> hahahah
  555. # [22:27] <antonkovalyov> people like jshint, huh :)
  556. # [22:27] <antonkovalyov> 6k+ visitors in the first day
  557. # [22:27] <antonkovalyov> tons of tweets
  558. # [22:27] <nimbupani> woot
  559. # [22:27] <nimbupani> its well deserved
  560. # [22:28] <antonkovalyov> when are you in the valley, nimbupani?
  561. # [22:28] <nimbupani> iunno antonkovalyov I wish soon :|
  562. # [22:28] <antonkovalyov> we need to get together with me, you and paul_irish
  563. # [22:28] <antonkovalyov> talk about jshint and shit
  564. # [22:28] <nimbupani> totes do.
  565. # [22:28] <nimbupani> you both should come to seattle >_>
  566. # [22:29] <draginx> themiddleman: mibbit is irc though right?
  567. # [22:29] <nimbupani> antonkovalyov: you going to jsconf right?
  568. # [22:30] <nimbupani> i hope I can convince someone to let me in >_>
  569. # [22:30] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, only if my talk gets accepted
  570. # [22:30] <tw2113> i think our small company would consider An Event Apart Minneapolis if the tickets weren't $1000/per
  571. # [22:30] <nimbupani> O kay
  572. # [22:30] <antonkovalyov> i am hesitant to pay 750 for a conf ticket :(
  573. # [22:30] <nimbupani> me too antonkovalyov :|||
  574. # [22:31] <nimbupani> tw2113: yeah those are crazy expensive
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  576. # [22:33] <Moo-_> is there anything akin server-side manipulation of DOM with Javascript?
  577. # [22:33] <Moo-_> possibly something where you can bolt jquery too
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  580. # [22:34] <antonkovalyov> we should all just show up
  581. # [22:34] <antonkovalyov> and break in
  582. # [22:35] <tw2113> community revolt?
  583. # [22:35] <antonkovalyov> haha
  584. # [22:35] <nimbupani> hehehe
  585. # [22:35] <antonkovalyov> i was talking to some organizers the other day
  586. # [22:35] <antonkovalyov> and it seems like it is pretty expensive to run the conf
  587. # [22:35] <antonkovalyov> and the price is justified
  588. # [22:35] <nimbupani> yes definitely i bet.
  589. # [22:35] <antonkovalyov> still, too expensive for me :(
  590. # [22:36] <nimbupani> thats what
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  592. # [22:39] <themiddleman> Me and a friend were thinking of having a mini js conf in Utah since we cant go to the real one
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  595. # [22:42] <antonkovalyov> i'll go to the txjs since it is supposed to be cheaper
  596. # [22:42] <snover> \o/ txjs!
  597. # [22:42] <nimbupani> WOOOT!
  598. # [22:42] <nimbupani> i will see you then for sure!
  599. # [22:44] <antonkovalyov> ya
  600. # [22:44] <themiddleman> texas scares me :o
  601. # [22:44] <antonkovalyov> austin is fine
  602. # [22:44] <antonkovalyov> and wtf
  603. # [22:44] <antonkovalyov> you're from utah
  604. # [22:44] <themiddleman> Im from wisconsin originally
  605. # [22:44] <antonkovalyov> everything between sfo and jfk scares me here in the united states
  606. # [22:45] <antonkovalyov> but austin is like sf, totally cool. one of our engineers lives and works from there
  607. # [22:45] <nimbupani> hahahaha
  608. # [22:45] <nimbupani> i know
  609. # [22:45] <nimbupani> austin is totally cool!
  610. # [22:45] <nimbupani> all university cities are cool
  611. # [22:46] <antonkovalyov> i think i doubled number of my followers on twitter in the past two days :)
  612. # [22:46] <nimbupani> :)
  613. # [22:46] <uf0> what are your guys thoughts on template language like HAML?
  614. # [22:47] <themiddleman> antonkovalyov: oh hey its you! I was one of those people
  615. # [22:47] <antonkovalyov> uf0, useless :) i like my html
  616. # [22:47] <antonkovalyov> themiddleman, :)
  617. # [22:47] <uf0> ok
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  619. # [22:48] <antonkovalyov> hey nimbupani, i am in a coffee shop preparing my sf web perf talk
  620. # [22:48] <antonkovalyov> how cliche is that
  621. # [22:48] <nimbupani> i like haml uf0
  622. # [22:48] <nimbupani> as long as you are no in starbucks antonkovalyov
  623. # [22:48] <nimbupani> not*
  624. # [22:48] <antonkovalyov> worse
  625. # [22:48] <antonkovalyov> peets :(
  626. # [22:48] <nimbupani> GEEZ
  627. # [22:48] <nimbupani> you are supposedly in hipsterville
  628. # [22:48] <antonkovalyov> all coffeeshops are packed here
  629. # [22:49] <antonkovalyov> all the fucking students studying
  630. # [22:49] <nimbupani> hahahaha
  631. # [22:49] <antonkovalyov> STUDENTS Y U NO AT LIBRARY!
  632. # [22:49] <nimbupani> i had awesome university benches to park myself at.
  633. # [22:50] <nimbupani> and remote buildings to test my gps linux j2me application for my project :)
  634. # [22:50] <antonkovalyov> ha, nic
  635. # [22:50] <antonkovalyov> nice*
  636. # [22:50] <antonkovalyov> in soviet russia, we study at home
  637. # [22:50] <antonkovalyov> or at the library
  638. # [22:51] <nimbupani> :))
  639. # [22:51] <antonkovalyov> in coffee shops we drink coffee and talk
  640. # [22:51] <nimbupani> library is so quiet
  641. # [22:52] <antonkovalyov> yeah why would you want a quiet atmosphere to study
  642. # [22:52] <antonkovalyov> nonsense
  643. # [22:52] <nimbupani> INORITE
  644. # [22:52] <nimbupani> its so stifling
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  647. # [22:57] <tw2113> ahh, i have the sound that plays when samus appears in the metroid games, as my notification ringtone now
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