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  28. # [00:45] <paul_irish> http://n.survol.fr/n/how-media-queries-slow-the-mobile-web
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  85. # [02:53] <shichuan> nimbupani: hi, divya
  86. # [02:53] <nimbupani> yo shichuan
  87. # [02:54] <shichuan> nimbupani: r u using a mac?
  88. # [02:54] <nimbupani> yep!
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  92. # [02:56] <shichuan> nimbupani: cool, when have time, could u run the build on a mac, cos this issue https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues/338/#comment_80
  93. # [02:56] <nimbupani> k i will!
  94. # [02:56] <nimbupani> i am trying to integrate initializr into the site now!
  95. # [02:58] <shichuan> nimbupani: cool, thanks! we can look at it later, i tried on windows and it's fine now. so not so sure abt unix :)
  96. # [02:58] <nimbupani> o kay :)
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  102. # [03:18] <mike5w3c> I wonder what is going to happen when other browsers implement a "background apps" feature like the one in Chrome
  103. # [03:18] <mike5w3c> http://code.google.com/chrome/apps/docs/background.html
  104. # [03:18] <mike5w3c> " lets a hosted app run as soon as the user logs into their computer—before the user launches Chrome or the app—and to continue running even when Chrome or the app has no visible windows"
  105. # [03:20] <mike5w3c> with each browser runtime starting up automatically when the user logs in
  106. # [03:20] <mike5w3c> N different browser runtimes running at the same time
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  115. # [03:45] <digitalfiz> paul_irish, great link earlier i did not know of such a horrible bug
  116. # [03:46] <paul_irish> which bug
  117. # [03:46] <digitalfiz> http://n.survol.fr/n/how-media-queries-slow-the-mobile-web
  118. # [03:47] <paul_irish> ah
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  121. # [03:53] <shichuan> digitalfiz: looking at the example, it's not a very good media query set
  122. # [03:55] <shichuan> no one will use three min-device-width that way
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  124. # [03:56] <JonathanNeal> shichuan: no more media query
  125. # [03:56] <JonathanNeal> http://pastie.org/1600439
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  130. # [04:07] <JonathanNeal> we need more mike w3cs
  131. # [04:07] <JonathanNeal> oh good, done.
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  134. # [04:10] <JonathanNeal> we need less dupe mike w3cs
  135. # [04:10] <JonathanNeal> oh good, done.
  136. # [04:20] <shichuan> JonathanNeal: it isn't a complete replacement?
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  138. # [04:21] <JonathanNeal> shichuan: could you break that question down for me?
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  140. # [04:29] <shichuan> JonathanNeal: sorry, u have an example use of this?
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  142. # [04:33] <JonathanNeal> shichuan: sure, http://sandbox.thewikies.com/liferay-61/services.php
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  147. # [04:47] <shichuan> JonathanNeal: very interesting :) the lt is clever
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  158. # [05:19] <JonathanNeal> thanks
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  162. # [05:27] <shichuan> currently i use https://github.com/scottjehl/Respond for mobile h5bp, but the focus is narrow
  163. # [05:30] <danbeam> http://diveintohtml5.org working for anybody else?
  164. # [05:30] <danbeam> crashing tabs left and right for me
  165. # [05:30] <SteveGL> yes
  166. # [05:31] <danbeam> SteveGL: what browser/OS?
  167. # [05:31] <SteveGL> on Safari 5.0.3
  168. # [05:31] <SteveGL> Mac OS X Snow Leapard
  169. # [05:31] <SteveGL> 10.6.7
  170. # [05:31] <danbeam> cool
  171. # [05:31] <danbeam> yeah, Linux gets no love I guess, :_(
  172. # [05:31] <SteveGL> Tried Chrome?
  173. # [05:32] <danbeam> yeah, using it in Ubuntu right now
  174. # [05:32] <SteveGL> hm, let me try in Chrome on here.
  175. # [05:32] <tw2113> it's working for me
  176. # [05:32] <danbeam> technically Chromium (same thing, different name, more open-souding, haha?)
  177. # [05:32] <SteveGL> Doesn't work in Chrome for me
  178. # [05:32] <SteveGL> does a new tab
  179. # [05:32] <tw2113> firefox4 beta11 fedora 14
  180. # [05:33] <SteveGL> Yeah, it's all messed up in Chrome, for me.
  181. # [05:33] <danbeam> lol, yeah, FF4b10 is fine
  182. # [05:33] <danbeam> Chromium 9 or 10 is totally screwed in Linux
  183. # [05:33] <danbeam> lame
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  185. # [05:34] <danbeam> ok, just making sure I wasn't crazy, :)
  186. # [05:34] <tw2113> i was on chromium for awhile, then moved back to chrome cause it was breaking more than it needed
  187. # [05:35] <danbeam> tw2113: what's the difference?
  188. # [05:35] <danbeam> tw2113: one's Google and one's Open Source?
  189. # [05:36] <tw2113> chromium is the forerunner and more liable to break things
  190. # [05:36] <danbeam> haha
  191. # [05:36] <tw2113> chromium snapshots turn into chrome
  192. # [05:36] <tw2113> and yes is a bit more open than the latter
  193. # [05:36] <danbeam> cool
  194. # [05:36] <danbeam> yeah, on chromium.org right now - should've done more investigation first, haha, but thanks for the quick view (more helpful than the site)
  195. # [05:37] <danbeam> I wonder if Chrome is choking on Mark Pilgrim's minified HTML, lol, curl http://diveintohtml5.org/ | less
  196. # [05:38] <danbeam> lol, it is - does fine with the non-minified version here - http://hg.diveintohtml5.org/hgweb.cgi/raw-file/a00fbc1aa12e/index.html
  197. # [05:38] <danbeam> weird
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  209. # [06:17] <JonathanNeal> awesome
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  217. # [06:34] <paul_irish> oyvindki1sey: !!!! :D
  218. # [06:35] <grantg> asdfasdfasdfasdf
  219. # [06:35] <grantg> ! :D
  220. # [06:37] <grantg> http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/frflm/i_have_a_feeling_that_this_is_missing_something/c1i3v3l?context=3
  221. # [06:37] <grantg> trolling x infinity
  222. # [06:39] <paul_irish> sup grant
  223. # [06:40] <grantg> hey
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  251. # [08:26] <grantg> meanwhile in firefox 4 on my computer - http://i.imgur.com/5skjy.png
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  278. # [09:36] <SlexAxton> suggested tag to markup a book title these days?
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  319. # [11:26] <mike5w3c> SlexAxton: <cite> ?
  320. # [11:26] <mike5w3c> otherwise <i>
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  323. # [11:29] <mike5w3c> http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/cite.html
  324. # [11:30] <mike5w3c> "The cite element represents the cited title of a work; for example, the title of a book mentioned within the main text flow of a document."
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  371. # [14:23] <davidmurdoch> ECMAScript.next looks like it will be pretty awesome.
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  373. # [14:28] <davidmurdoch> Possibly coming in ECMAScript.next: elems.map(#(elem) { elem.size() }); === elems.map(function(elem) { return elem.size(); });
  374. # [14:28] <davidmurdoch> apparently we are really lazy.
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  405. # [15:47] <Moo-_> please name some javascript documentation tools
  406. # [15:48] <jetienne> Moo-_: jsdoc is the format. several parsers/generators are around
  407. # [15:49] <jetienne> http://code.google.com/p/jsdoc-toolkit/ is one. becarefull only the beta seem to work
  408. # [15:49] <jetienne> i use https://github.com/visionmedia/dox which is able to do jsdoc+markdown
  409. # [15:50] <Moo-_> thx jetienne
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  430. # [16:21] <felcom> hmm...why are bike routes on Google Maps not embeddable?
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  434. # [16:23] <cgcardona> who wants to check out a bike map while in bed?
  435. # [16:23] <felcom> ahyuk
  436. # [16:24] <cgcardona> :) I couldn't help myslef
  437. # [16:24] <felcom> it's strange because I can get the walking embed code, but not the biking
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  449. # [16:44] <jetienne> cgcardona: i like it :)
  450. # [16:44] <cgcardona> what? my joke above? jetienne
  451. # [16:45] <jetienne> felcom: my wild guess is that an oversight, more than a explicit design
  452. # [16:45] <jetienne> cgcardona: yep
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  454. # [16:45] <cgcardona> :)
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  466. # [17:09] <paul_irish> nimbupani: http://bransoncompany.nl/voorpagina/aafje h5bp
  467. # [17:10] <nimbupani> looks hawt
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  469. # [17:11] <paul_irish> http://www.w3.org/2011/02/mobile-web-app-state.html
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  471. # [17:13] <shichuan> the site is insane fast
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  475. # [17:18] <felcom> http://bit.ly/dIJlp1 anyone know why this map can't be embedded?
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  480. # [17:32] <felcom> figured it out – you can't embed a map when "Bicycling" is checked under the traffic section
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  519. # [18:46] <paul_irish> nimbupani: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2703056/body-font-size-100-01-vs-body-font-size-100
  520. # [18:47] <nimbupani> o awes
  521. # [18:47] <nimbupani> we should use it!
  522. # [18:47] <paul_irish> iunno.
  523. # [18:47] <paul_irish> feels dirty
  524. # [18:47] <nimbupani> wai?
  525. # [18:48] <paul_irish> people seem to be using it on blind faith that it fixes things
  526. # [18:48] <paul_irish> mysterious "Browser bugs" it fixes
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  528. # [18:49] <nimbupani> well it sets a default
  529. # [18:49] <nimbupani> to the browser font default
  530. # [18:49] <nimbupani> thats like sensible
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  532. # [18:50] <nimbupani> i am okpeople are always gonna use pixels to override it
  533. # [18:50] <nimbupani> until they learn better that is
  534. # [18:51] <nimbupani> maybe this needs investigation
  535. # [18:51] <nimbupani> i will check it out laterz
  536. # [18:51] <nimbupani> once i am done with intializr integration
  537. # [18:52] <paul_irish> ok
  538. # [18:55] <davidmurdoch> can anyone recommend a good jQuery ajax file-upload plugin?
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  542. # [18:56] <Michael> Where is a document for the html5 video js api?
  543. # [18:58] <Michael> I see docs for audio but not video
  544. # [18:59] <davidmurdoch> uploadify looks nice, but there is no drag-n-drop support. lameo
  545. # [18:59] <Michael> for me to poop on
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  548. # [19:09] <paul_irish> davidmurdoch: check yayquery.com we just recommended one in our latest ep
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  553. # [19:11] <davidmurdoch> downloadify?
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  555. # [19:13] <paul_irish> oh
  556. # [19:13] <paul_irish> did i lie?
  557. # [19:13] <paul_irish> i did.
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  559. # [19:14] <davidmurdoch> haha.
  560. # [19:14] <davidmurdoch> I might use that for something else tho.
  561. # [19:14] <paul_irish> jQuery File Upload plugin. Drag 'n drop from desktop, multiple files, progress bars, flash-less. Impressive. http://goo.gl/idO0O
  562. # [19:14] <paul_irish> thar
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  566. # [19:15] <niftylettuce> html5 awards
  567. # [19:15] <niftylettuce> where dem' at?
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  569. # [19:20] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: do they serve fresh salad at Goog?
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  572. # [19:22] <davidmurdoch> paul_irish, perf!
  573. # [19:22] <paul_irish> perff
  574. # [19:25] <davidmurdoch> Requirements: jquery UI (optional)
  575. # [19:31] <niftylettuce> anthony bourdain wants a wet sponge down his pants
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  595. # [19:51] <BrianBlakely> davidmurdoch: jQuery UI might be recommended for its theming capabilities
  596. # [19:52] <davidmurdoch> I just though that it was odd that in the requirements section an item was listed as optional.
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  600. # [20:00] <BrianBlakely> davidmurdoch: Quite!
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  604. # [20:02] <davidmurdoch> BrianBlakely: Quiet!
  605. # [20:02] <davidmurdoch> :-)
  606. # [20:02] <davidmurdoch> Qk
  607. # [20:03] <davidmurdoch> ★
  608. # [20:03] <davidmurdoch>
  609. # [20:03] <davidmurdoch> Qk
  610. # [20:03] <davidmurdoch> Its a ninja throwing a star
  611. # [20:04] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: Dev tools suggestion re: CSS panel — toggle checkbox should be to the left of a property, instead of on the right (or instead, maybe some hover-striping is in order)… difficult to quickly see which property is being toggled when there are about 10+ for a rule
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  631. # [20:31] <paul_irish> BrianBlakely: yeah theres a ticket for hover striping somewhere
  632. # [20:31] <paul_irish> agreed
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  634. # [20:34] <BrianBlakely> Schweet
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  637. # [20:36] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: Is the tracker public?
  638. # [20:36] <paul_irish> http://crbug.com
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  640. # [20:36] <paul_irish> feature-devtools
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  642. # [20:37] <BrianBlakely> Danke
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  644. # [20:38] <nimbupani> paul_irish: does chrome fail silently on xml+xhtml errors?
  645. # [20:38] <paul_irish> dunno
  646. # [20:38] <nimbupani> http://home.mcafee.com/campaign.aspx?cid=77419&affid=0&ctst=1 seems to not mention errors
  647. # [20:38] <paul_irish> as of 1 week ago you shoudl get parse errors reported in teh console
  648. # [20:38] <nimbupani> oh okay
  649. # [20:38] <nimbupani> o wait soz its getting reported as text/html
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  669. # [21:03] <nimbupani> Fyrd: OMG
  670. # [21:03] <nimbupani> ITS SO CLOSE
  671. # [21:03] <nimbupani> the differences are likeee SO SMALL
  672. # [21:04] <nimbupani> (context) http://a.deveria.com/tests/bokeh/bokeh.html
  673. # [21:04] <Fyrd> nimbupani: I wasted WAY too much time getting it so close. :D
  674. # [21:04] <nimbupani> HAHAHAHA :)))
  675. # [21:04] <Fyrd> And still wasn't happy with the result.
  676. # [21:04] <nimbupani> but its definitely smaller than bloody gradients >_<
  677. # [21:04] <Fyrd> I'm sure just using gradients would have been easier for the accuracy. But eh.
  678. # [21:04] <Fyrd> And works in Opera!
  679. # [21:05] <nimbupani> YAHHH
  680. # [21:05] <Fyrd> Your overlords would be pleased.
  681. # [21:05] <nimbupani> HAHAHAHA
  682. # [21:05] <nimbupani> def
  683. # [21:05] <nimbupani> can I try including it?
  684. # [21:05] <Fyrd> Totally!
  685. # [21:05] <nimbupani> WOOT. thnx! trying now.
  686. # [21:06] <Fyrd> Maybe you can get the position/repeat thing to work too.
  687. # [21:06] <nimbupani> yeah i should test that thing
  688. # [21:06] <nimbupani> why isnt it working :|
  689. # [21:08] <nimbupani> works totally in opera Fyrd http://jsfiddle.net/nimbu/CPCRU/75/
  690. # [21:08] <nimbupani> just need to adjust svg height to 300px
  691. # [21:08] <nimbupani> and it will be perfect
  692. # [21:08] <thatryan> jquery yay http://events.jquery.org/2011/sf-bay-area/
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  694. # [21:08] <thatryan> :)
  695. # [21:09] <nimbupani> hmm works in FF 4 too Fyrd >_>
  696. # [21:09] <nimbupani> http://jsfiddle.net/CPCRU/76/
  697. # [21:09] <Fyrd> Yeah, it should. :)
  698. # [21:10] <nimbupani> no no
  699. # [21:10] <Fyrd> The main thing with the background repeat is the overlap thing doesn't work like with gradients
  700. # [21:10] <nimbupani> i meannn the repeat thingg
  701. # [21:10] <nimbupani> hmmm
  702. # [21:10] <nimbupani> yeah
  703. # [21:10] <Fyrd> Hence my hack.
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  706. # [21:13] <Fyrd> If I'd make a version using SVG gradients rather than blurs, it'd work in IE9 too
  707. # [21:13] <Fyrd> (or anyone else)
  708. # [21:13] <shepazu> yeah
  709. # [21:13] <Fyrd> Oh hi shepazu. :)
  710. # [21:13] <shepazu> I really hope IE10 does filters
  711. # [21:13] <Fyrd> I imagine it will.
  712. # [21:14] <shepazu> hi, Fyrd
  713. # [21:14] <shepazu> we never did meet up
  714. # [21:14] <shepazu> maybe this spring
  715. # [21:14] <Fyrd> Nope. :( And yeah, maybe.
  716. # [21:15] <shepazu> Fyrd: you still in NC?
  717. # [21:15] <nimbupani> hmmm Fyrd if I use bg size the svg gets constrained weirdly
  718. # [21:15] <Fyrd> shepazu: Yup.
  719. # [21:16] <Fyrd> nimbupani: Yeah, saw that too...
  720. # [21:16] <nimbupani> o duh
  721. # [21:16] <nimbupani> yeah its supposed to be for stretching :|
  722. # [21:16] <nimbupani> or contracting
  723. # [21:17] <Fyrd> Maybe messing with preserveAspectRatio would make a difference, but not sure.
  724. # [21:17] <Fyrd> I tend to get confused where SVG and CSS collide.
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  728. # [21:19] <Neiluj> paul_irish: your 12 tricks video made my day, thanks
  729. # [21:19] <paul_irish> :)
  730. # [21:19] <nimbupani> haha me too Fyrd :|
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  732. # [21:22] <paul_irish> 12 Tricks to Develop Quicker with the Chrome Dev Tools http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOEw9iiopwI&hd=1 :)
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  734. # [21:24] <nimbupani> N ways to screencast like paul_irish
  735. # [21:25] <Neiluj> why did I not heard about copy & inspect before :'''''(
  736. # [21:26] <BrianBlakely> Getting re-acquainted with Firefox 4 features
  737. # [21:26] <BrianBlakely> My body is ready: http://hacks.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/reflectionwithwaterripples.html
  738. # [21:26] <paul_irish> nimbupani: hahaha im pretty bad at that
  739. # [21:26] <paul_irish> i swear i'll stop
  740. # [21:26] <nimbupani> i hope so!
  741. # [21:27] <nimbupani> too smashingmagazine!
  742. # [21:27] <paul_irish> 10, 11, 12 though!
  743. # [21:27] <paul_irish> got those numbers taken care of.
  744. # [21:27] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: I saw that earlier today, I was quite surprised that you were the presenter, just because it was weird to see a "formal" presentation from you
  745. # [21:30] <BrianBlakely> Non-Mozilla vendor peeps: We need this http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/08/mozelement/ nao~! …and SVG effects on HTML content. Thank you m(_ _)m
  746. # [21:31] <nimbupani> Fyrd: only one more url seems sufficient!
  747. # [21:31] <Fyrd> nimbupani: Cool!
  748. # [21:31] <nimbupani> http://jsfiddle.net/CPCRU/78/show/ and http://jsfiddle.net/nimbu/CPCRU/show/
  749. # [21:32] <shepazu> BrianBlakely: that's like the SVG <use> element
  750. # [21:32] <shepazu> a bit
  751. # [21:33] <nimbupani> i think i would have to prefix all bg-size so they dont override for opera :|
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  754. # [21:43] <Fyrd> Nice, nimbupani! I forgot I actually tried that too at first, but the repeat doesn't match the gradient one exactly. No practical difference, of course.
  755. # [21:43] <nimbupani> yeah :|
  756. # [21:43] <nimbupani> it works for me, not too particular >_>
  757. # [21:44] <nimbupani> butttt this background-position kills it
  758. # [21:44] <nimbupani> when i try to combine
  759. # [21:44] <nimbupani> i guess i need to use modernizr
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  763. # [21:51] <davidmurdoch> jQuery trigger() doesn't work on live/delegate does it?
  764. # [21:54] <Fyrd> nimbupani: Always fun to need JS for one's pure CSS demos...
  765. # [21:54] <nimbupani> I KNOW >_>
  766. # [21:54] <davidmurdoch> ah, trigger will work with delegate but not like this: elem.find("selector").trigger("event");
  767. # [21:55] <nimbupani> luckily i did not call it PURE CSS DEMO
  768. # [21:55] * nimbupani whews
  769. # [21:55] <Fyrd> Heh
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  771. # [21:55] <tbranyen> who doesn't have JS enabled
  772. # [21:55] <tbranyen> what kind of looooooser doesn't use JS
  773. # [21:55] <tw2113> yo grandma in the grave
  774. # [21:56] <tbranyen> grandma WHYYYYYY?
  775. # [21:56] <tw2113> she hates cookies
  776. # [21:56] <tw2113> </makinglowsense>
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  782. # [22:04] <Fyrd> Oh non-opera browsers, why do you hate SVGZ? http://dahlström.net/svg/base64/base64-encoded-svgz-in-object.html :(
  783. # [22:04] <shepazu> file a bug!!!!
  784. # [22:06] <Fyrd> Hm, I guess I could. Maybe Erik alread has.
  785. # [22:07] <Fyrd> Anyway, nimbupani, if you're just targeting Opera you could use this: data:image/svg+xml;base64,H4sICBWwZk0AA2Jva2VoLnN2ZwC9lmtuozAUhf9nFZZHlRIpAV%2BDgVY4lUYjdQGzAkocQEOhMiRkdj82xIzCI30o7R9jlPicz%2FceW4SPp5ccHYWssrLgGCyCH7eLsDomqMl2dcoxIwSjVGRJWnPs6Be1oqg4Tuv69cG2m6axGscqZWJTQoitluLtYoHCndhX2wVC4T7LayFRtuP4OT9I%2BC%2BnFtxhY9S9%2FOV4w%2FTkdJ5oCaUhnqJDVWVR8VNJoKre%2FRLHLKo7aowy9fhdHmQsnmT0mmYxtltvuzOf4mA352Cf4vBvzuG%2Fg0M1yO46pGYJqmVUVPtS
  786. # [22:07] <nimbupani> OMG
  787. # [22:07] <nimbupani> base 64!!!
  788. # [22:07] <nimbupani> THNX
  789. # [22:07] <nimbupani> NO MORE HOT LINKS
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  791. # [22:08] <nimbupani> XML PARSING FAILED :(
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  793. # [22:08] <Fyrd> Hm, same here. Odd.
  794. # [22:08] <Fyrd> Worked a moment ago.
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  798. # [22:10] <Fyrd> http://pastebin.com/uWhDi85q
  799. # [22:11] <Fyrd> But again, only works in Opera.
  800. # [22:13] <rgervais_> <input type="submit" /> or <button type="submit"></button> which one and why
  801. # [22:14] <davidmurdoch> I like <button> because its easier to style.
  802. # [22:14] <nimbupani> woot thnx Fyrd!
  803. # [22:14] <nimbupani> :((
  804. # [22:14] <Fyrd> whassit?
  805. # [22:14] <nimbupani> i meann its sad it onlyworks in opera
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  808. # [22:15] <nimbupani> but i guess people can always substitute it with some pngs
  809. # [22:15] <nimbupani> IF NECESSARY
  810. # [22:15] <Fyrd> Ah, right.
  811. # [22:18] <nimbupani> k thanks for your yeoman's service!
  812. # [22:18] <nimbupani> appreciate it.
  813. # [22:18] <nimbupani> updated post! http://nimbupani.com/bokeh-with-css3-gradients.html
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  815. # [22:19] <Fyrd> nimbupani: My pleasure! :)
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  820. # [22:22] <tw2113> there's no polyfills for IE6 + child selectors are there
  821. # [22:23] <Neiluj> tw2113: you mean " > " ?
  822. # [22:23] <tw2113> ya
  823. # [22:24] <Neiluj> what about ie7.js ?
  824. # [22:24] <Neiluj> http://ie7-js.googlecode.com/svn/test/index.html
  825. # [22:26] <tw2113> ooh
  826. # [22:27] <tw2113> that may just be perfect for me
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  850. # [22:44] <antonkovalyov> oyvindki1sey, you here?
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  852. # [22:48] <nimbupani> your love refrain goes unanswered antonkovalyov
  853. # [22:49] <antonkovalyov> :'-(
  854. # [22:54] <Pewpewarrows> tw2113: look into selectivizr as well
  855. # [22:56] <tw2113> already have that one :D
  856. # [22:56] <tw2113> too bad this IE7.js is crashing my test environment
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  858. # [22:56] <Neiluj> selectivizr is only dealing with css3 selectors
  859. # [22:57] <Moo-_> does javascript have array for each concept (without any libs like jQuery)?
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  861. # [22:59] <jamund> Moo-_: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/array/foreach
  862. # [22:59] * Moo-_ bows to jamund
  863. # [23:00] <Moo-_> may I ask where could I obtain information regarding browser support of JavaScript 1.6?
  864. # [23:00] <jamund> yes
  865. # [23:00] <jamund> http://kangax.github.com/es5-compat-table/
  866. # [23:00] <jamund> But you can always use a for loop ;-)
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  869. # [23:01] <jamund> You can also add support easily.
  870. # [23:01] <jamund> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/forEach explains how to add
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  882. # [23:14] <Moo-_> jakemcgraw: yep, thanks
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  885. # [23:20] <Moo-_> jamund: how about key value iteration of an object members?
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  887. # [23:20] <jamund> for (var i in obj) ?
  888. # [23:20] <jamund> very standard js :)
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  890. # [23:21] <paul_irish> keys(obj) in chrome js console
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  893. # [23:25] <thatryan> paul_irish: great video man
  894. # [23:25] <paul_irish> thx
  895. # [23:25] <thatryan> "guess its time to file a bug report" I lol'd :)
  896. # [23:26] <paul_irish> and then i did! and then it got fixed!
  897. # [23:26] <thatryan> score!
  898. # [23:26] <thatryan> already bought my ticket for jqcon :D
  899. # [23:28] <thatryan> do you know what youll be talking on yet
  900. # [23:30] <paul_irish> how to make jokes in source code.
  901. # [23:30] <thatryan> briliant
  902. # [23:30] <thatryan> i need to up my game there
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  905. # [23:36] <thatryan> im hella on the homepage for the event LOL
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  907. # [23:46] <tw2113> Neiluj, know of any solutions to IE7.js and jquery not getting along?
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  910. # [23:49] <paul_irish> ie7.js doesnt get along with much.
  911. # [23:49] <tw2113> kind of what i've gathered, i've seen comments that it's for smaller static pages too
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  914. # [23:49] <tw2113> personally, all that i want/need is the child selection
  915. # [23:52] <Neiluj> tw2113: no sorry not that I can remember
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  918. # [23:57] <paul_irish> tw2113: use selectizr
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  920. # [23:58] <tw2113> does it cover child selectors?
  921. # [23:59] <tw2113> mostly just >'s needed
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