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49. # [00:19] <hij1nx> pushState question: when i pushState(d, t, s); then refresh the browser, it cant find the resource, obviously. i must be missing something here...
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54. # [00:20] <hij1nx> anyone using html5 here?
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67. # [00:35] <cheilmann_> hij1nx: no, this is actually alcoholics anonymous.
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69. # [00:35] <hij1nx> cheilmann_: wow cool, so you are an html5 expert, answer my question =)
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72. # [00:36] <cheilmann_> This is IRC, you can't use HTML5 in here
73. # [00:36] <cheilmann_> <!doctype>
74. # [00:36] <cheilmann_> see? Does fuck-all
75. # [00:36] <hij1nx> wtf? are you kidding?
76. # [00:36] <hij1nx> you must be serious
77. # [00:37] <hij1nx> repost --- pushState question: when i pushState(d, t, s); then refresh the browser, it cant find the resource, obviously. i must be missing something here...
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80. # [00:38] <hij1nx> cheilmann_: btw: that wouldn't work anyway, look at your code LOL
81. # [00:38] <hij1nx> this is the l33t chan for sure
82. # [00:38] <cheilmann_> dunno why people are asleep actually
83. # [00:38] <cheilmann_> I have to board a plane
84. # [00:39] <hij1nx> i hope they have inflight wi-fi so we can continue this insightful conversation ;)
85. # [00:40] <cheilmann_> you know if they had I would answer you but this is BA
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90. # [00:45] <tktiddle> Is it possible to send udp from a browser?
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139. # [02:12] <xonecas> whois paulrouget
140. # [02:12] <xonecas> ups :-)
141. # [02:14] <miketaylr> stalker
142. # [02:14] <xonecas> true!
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147. # [02:28] <xonecas> exit
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160. # [03:04] <shichuan> paul_irish: for the jpegtran issue, i think we need to look into it further? cos i did replicate the problem on my windows at least, which is why i tweaked the build script a bit
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179. # [03:42] <paul_irish> shichuan: aye. i've been ignoring it lately..
180. # [03:42] <paul_irish> unrelated: http://www.koalastothemax.com/
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182. # [03:44] <nimbupani> OMG SVG
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184. # [03:44] <nimbupani> but there is a min size at which they no longer break into circles
185. # [03:44] <nimbupani> WAI
186. # [03:46] <paul_irish> it uses http://mbostock.github.com/d3/
187. # [03:47] <xonecas> Thats really cool
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189. # [03:48] <nimbupani> this is polymaps dood!
190. # [03:48] <tw2113> dooders!
191. # [03:48] <niftylettuce> yo yo yoooo
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193. # [03:49] <tw2113> ya know, i can't help but wonder how some of you people make all these awesome personal project stuff, hold some sort of dayjob, and still theoretically hve a social life too
194. # [03:49] <tw2113> how do you do it?
195. # [03:49] <nimbupani> we dont have social lives
196. # [03:50] <nimbupani> plus no tv
197. # [03:50] <tw2113> neither do i but i still fail at this....oh wait that's on my head not yours
198. # [03:51] <niftylettuce> tw2113: failure is not an option good sir
199. # [03:51] <xonecas> nimbu and paul devote their lives to to write really cool projects for the rest of us?
200. # [03:52] <nimbupani> hahahahaha lawls
201. # [03:52] <tw2113> i was legitimately curious for awhile, but it was also a bad lunch hour for me *knocks back another round of root beer, then calls for another*
202. # [03:52] <tw2113> paul does all the work, nim makes sure he stays in line
203. # [03:52] <tw2113> freeing her up for her own stuff
204. # [03:52] <nimbupani> if only that were true
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206. # [03:53] <xonecas> eheheh, poor Paul, at least wait for him to be here so that he can defend hmself!
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213. # [03:59] <paul_irish> i totes had a social life yesterday. for the record.
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217. # [04:04] <shichuan> i think one can make life more efficient, you can't balance social/work life, but u can counter balance it
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222. # [04:08] <niftylettuce> totes mcgoats
223. # [04:08] <xonecas> shichuan: use with moderation :-)
224. # [04:08] <niftylettuce> focus more, do less
225. # [04:08] <niftylettuce> more coffee
226. # [04:09] <niftylettuce> more lettuce
227. # [04:09] <nimbupani> hahahahhaa shichuan
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229. # [04:13] <tw2113> follow Scrooge McDuck....work smarter, not harder
230. # [04:18] <shichuan> if you never worked hard, how would you know which is the smarter way? I think it comes with experience, more experience you have, the wiser and smarter you grow over the time. the important thing is one must be patient and slowly add on top of what you have done, that's the only shortcut i believe in.
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232. # [04:19] <shichuan> life is a series of constant self-reinvention
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234. # [04:22] * tw2113 had a small talking to today about theming speed as of late
235. # [04:22] <tw2113> apparently my work has felt slower than it should be
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237. # [04:23] <tw2113> it had me in a down mood, but looking back, i'm saying "f getting down on myself, kick it up a gear and start rockin' it again"
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239. # [04:31] <nimbupani> +1 shichuan
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243. # [04:33] <tw2113> interesting question...any of you ever had to make client sites from InDesign files?
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252. # [04:53] <niftylettuce> tw2113: yea
253. # [04:53] <niftylettuce> tw2113: always ask for PSD
254. # [04:53] * niftylettuce spots a wild PSD
255. # [04:53] <tw2113> apparently the designer likes the text handling better
256. # [04:54] <tw2113> it just causes me to need 2 programs open instead of one
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267. # [05:18] <xonecas> tw2113 open the file in photoshop, save as… doesn't work?
268. # [05:18] <tw2113> haven't tried that, i've been mostly just copy/pasting the images
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274. # [05:29] <paul_irish> anyone have any to add? https://gist.github.com/292907
275. # [05:30] <nimbupani> paul_irish: have https://github.com/nimbupani/html5boilerplate-site/commits/initializr updated to your latest commits in the master
276. # [05:30] <nimbupani> now onto bugs
277. # [05:30] <tw2113> we need another meme in htere paul
278. # [05:30] <tw2113> there*
279. # [05:31] <nimbupani> i can see you being very productive paul_irish
280. # [05:31] <paul_irish> im trying!
281. # [05:32] <thatryan> trying? go write your talk for april :)
282. # [05:32] <nimbupani> frik so should i
283. # [05:33] <nimbupani> but should not lose focus on boilerplate release
284. # [05:33] <paul_irish> is shichuan still here
285. # [05:33] <tw2113> i should research how to get scrollto to work with <a name="foo"> and different link destinations
286. # [05:34] <nimbupani> we will know if he responds
287. # [05:35] <paul_irish> nimbupani: remember that spec about fragments ^
288. # [05:35] <paul_irish> and how we didnt like #css(div.omg .thing)
289. # [05:35] <nimbupani> yeah we didnt totes
290. # [05:35] <paul_irish> but yet #selector( is too long
291. # [05:35] <paul_irish> SlexAxton figured out the perfect fix
292. # [05:35] <nimbupani> O whats that!
293. # [05:35] <paul_irish> $ !
294. # [05:36] <nimbupani> smartyslexy
295. # [05:36] <nimbupani> oo
296. # [05:36] <nimbupani> $!div.lol?
297. # [05:36] <paul_irish> yup. i like it a lot
298. # [05:36] <paul_irish> omgurl.html#$(div.omg .totes)
299. # [05:36] <nimbupani> OH
300. # [05:36] <nimbupani> :P
301. # [05:36] <nimbupani> yeah makes sense
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304. # [05:43] <xonecas> http://xonecas.com:321/ this is meant to track buzz about the upcoming FF4 release (in twitter). Anyone has more ideas on what data to look for? Stats to show?
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306. # [05:44] <tw2113> nevermind my scrollto woes, i realized i needed localscroll too :D
307. # [05:44] * tw2113 goes back to his corner
308. # [05:45] <paul_irish> xonecas: how about more decimal places on those numbers
309. # [05:45] <nimbupani> hahahaha
310. # [05:46] <nimbupani> TWITS
311. # [05:46] <nimbupani> yikes :(
312. # [05:46] <nimbupani> tweets :|
313. # [05:46] <tw2113> i tweeted just to see myself there :D
314. # [05:46] <nimbupani> it is nails on the scratchboard for me when I heard the word "twits"
315. # [05:46] <nimbupani> its right there
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317. # [05:46] <nimbupani> blackboard not scratchboard >_<
318. # [05:47] <xonecas> nimbupani: sorry, I'll change it for you
319. # [05:47] <nimbupani> thnx xonecas!!!
320. # [05:47] <nimbupani> I appreciate it
321. # [05:47] <xonecas> paul_irish: I can put more if you want, but I tough that would be enough.
322. # [05:49] <paul_irish> :)
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324. # [05:51] <xonecas> Any ideas on how to track the buzz even more?
325. # [05:52] <xonecas> (i'm going to end up making bar graphs and line graphs with <canvas>
326. # [05:52] <xonecas> )
327. # [05:52] <nimbupani> maps?
328. # [05:53] <nimbupani> why do you need canvas for bargraphs? they are pretty trivial no?
329. # [05:54] <xonecas> I was joking about the canvas, its overkill
330. # [05:55] <xonecas> For maps I need to see if I'm picking up some geotags, last time I checked (xonecas.com:1234) not a lot of people use geotags
331. # [05:55] <nimbupani> okay
332. # [05:55] <xonecas> It just seems too simple right now :-)
333. # [05:55] <xonecas> need to clutter it up somehow
334. # [05:55] <nimbupani> ha yeah not many people use geotags
335. # [05:56] <nimbupani> i found barely 1 or 2 in a sea of 60 or more recent tweets
336. # [05:57] <xonecas> yeah, on xonecas.com:1234 it uses the filter stream, filtering by location, and while there are some geotagging, it takes a few hours to start filling up the browser window.
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338. # [05:58] * xonecas bbl
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341. # [06:01] <tw2113> just hanging out in here gets me twitter followers
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343. # [06:03] <thatryan> how much do you have to pay them
344. # [06:04] <tw2113> i lop off another inch of my soul
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346. # [06:06] <nimbupani> paul_irish: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues/labels/html#issue/286 i am gonna move em back to html
347. # [06:06] <nimbupani> this is really silly thing to do
348. # [06:06] <paul_irish> ok
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360. # [06:31] <shichuan> paul_irish: i was out for lunch, now back
361. # [06:32] <paul_irish> :) no worries
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363. # [06:35] <nimbupani> paul_irish: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues/labels/javascript#issue/313
364. # [06:35] <nimbupani> what does "clever" mean?
365. # [06:35] <nimbupani> yes or no?
366. # [06:36] <paul_irish> yup
367. # [06:36] <nimbupani> oks
368. # [06:40] <paul_irish> i love how erik dahlstrom watches every single SVG tweet
369. # [06:40] <paul_irish> and that shepazu watches every SVG irc msg
370. # [06:40] <nimbupani> hahahahaa
371. # [06:40] <nimbupani> ♥ shepazu and dahlstorm
372. # [06:41] <nimbupani> makes it worth my time to invest learning svg :)
373. # [06:41] <shichuan> just closed this one also: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues#issue/341
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375. # [06:44] <nimbupani> whats our view on this? https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues#issue/337 shichuan paul_irish?
376. # [06:44] <nimbupani> possibly can link from wiki me thinks
377. # [06:45] <nimbupani> and ask initializr dood at the most
378. # [06:45] <paul_irish> heh
379. # [06:45] <paul_irish> Firefox has crashed: http://i.imgur.com/FRRQf.jpg
380. # [06:45] <shichuan> nimbupani: yea, i think the initializr will do this?
381. # [06:46] <nimbupani> yeah we gotta ask jonathan let me ping him
382. # [06:46] <paul_irish> nimbupani: yup just said that
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384. # [06:48] <paul_irish> bot-t: tell rwaldron can you look at https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/pull/345 .. lemme know if you're +1 or -1
385. # [06:48] <bot-t> paul_irish, Okay.
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388. # [06:54] <paul_irish> shichuan: any idea on this last ant-contrib bug?
389. # [06:54] <grantg> paul_irish: Found a mouseover bug possibly in Firefox
390. # [06:54] <bot-t> (21 hours 10 mins ago) <niftylettuce> tell grantg I got group ready to roll :)
391. # [06:54] <grantg> https://github.com/grantgalitz/GameBoy-Online/commit/7f59670e91c08be6210b3d101d8f420d14ea5ac4
392. # [06:55] <grantg> Only happened to firefox
393. # [06:55] <grantg> not chrome, opera, IE7/8/9, etc
394. # [06:55] <nimbupani> paul_irish: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/pull/332 is just an opinion no :|
395. # [06:55] <grantg> where bad calls are thrown
396. # [06:55] <nimbupani> it saves one character! >_<
397. # [06:56] * grantg did a -1 to the margin and worked around the bug flawlessly
398. # [06:56] <paul_irish> nimbupani: i like it
399. # [06:56] <paul_irish> grantg: weird
400. # [06:56] <nimbupani> okay
401. # [06:56] <grantg> 4 real
402. # [06:57] <grantg> paul_irish: My popup menus were hiding themselves when I would mouse between <lI> elements, but not outside of the <ul>
403. # [06:57] <shichuan> paul_irish: i never have issue with the ant-contrib, will have a look
404. # [06:57] <grantg> only for *some* <li>s
405. # [06:57] <grantg> even though many were exactly the same
406. # [06:57] <grantg> like there was a rounding bug in firefox
407. # [06:57] <grantg> breaking the event model
408. # [06:57] <grantg> like firefox's internal logic rounded mappings off
409. # [07:02] <nimbupani> https://github.com/nimbupani/html5boilerplate-site/issues/#issue/28
410. # [07:02] <nimbupani> ITS ALL READY AND WAITING
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413. # [07:03] <paul_irish> shichuan: so what i really didnt understand is.. from what it looks like your jpegtran looks like its operating on the original files... but after the publish ones are created.
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415. # [07:06] <grantg> heh
416. # [07:06] <grantg> Firefox has some IE6 logic in it
417. # [07:06] <grantg> brings back memories
418. # [07:06] <grantg> :O
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420. # [07:07] <grantg> Firefox: Y U NO DO MOUSEOVER/MOUSEOUT right?
421. # [07:08] <paul_irish> nimbupani: whyd you kill off jQuery unminified :(
422. # [07:08] <nimbupani> wat? OOPSSS
423. # [07:08] <nimbupani> SORRY
424. # [07:08] <nimbupani> i just like added his stuff
425. # [07:08] <grantg> heh
426. # [07:09] <nimbupani> wait where did I kill?
427. # [07:10] <paul_irish> i just know initializr.com has 4 options for javascript
428. # [07:10] <grantg> paul_irish: I wonder if jQuery runs into the same bug as me
429. # [07:10] <grantg> in firefox
430. # [07:10] <paul_irish> i wonder as well
431. # [07:10] <nimbupani> what you meannn paul_irish :|||
432. # [07:10] <grantg> because of bad logic in event handling in the fox.
433. # [07:11] <nimbupani> OHHHH
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435. # [07:11] <nimbupani> well :|
436. # [07:11] <paul_irish> http://paulirish.com/i/11d0.png vs http://paulirish.com/i/9c40.png
437. # [07:11] <nimbupani> FINE i will add it in
438. # [07:11] <nimbupani> i get it
439. # [07:11] <paul_irish> FINE
440. # [07:11] * grantg wrote my own mouseover/mouseout code.
441. # [07:12] <paul_irish> *his own
442. # [07:12] <grantg> No jQuery, so firefox might run into non-standard mess ups
443. # [07:12] <grantg> heh
444. # [07:12] <nimbupani> i only put in what Jonathan sent me paul_irish!
445. # [07:12] <grantg> though I do a hella lot of DOM compat
446. # [07:12] <nimbupani> he didnt have a fourth option!
447. # [07:12] <nimbupani> i will ask him about it.
448. # [07:12] <grantg> even IE7 does it right
449. # [07:12] <paul_irish> shichuan: and then could you pull in https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/pull/336 after you tell me whats up :D
450. # [07:12] <paul_irish> nimbupani: ok
451. # [07:15] <nimbupani> okay i think my work is done for now.
452. # [07:15] <shichuan> paul_irish: ok, i will take a look :)
453. # [07:16] <nimbupani> need to write release notes >_<
454. # [07:17] <nimbupani> if anyone can help please do :) http://oksoclap.com/h5bpchangelog (dont remove the "merge" statements unless you know what was merged).
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458. # [07:21] <paul_irish> sweet. -server-configs is all up to date. all pull requests and forks queue and issues taken care of.
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460. # [07:21] <nimbupani> wooo
461. # [07:23] <grantg> minified jquery?
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463. # [07:25] <paul_irish> yes.
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465. # [07:28] <grantg> paul_irish: Someone over by chrome needs to move on this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Dec/0029.html
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469. # [07:30] <grantg> I've talked about it too
470. # [07:31] <yvkrishna> I have a web page in which there is a submit button, I want that submit button be clicked defaultly when ever I hit a refresh. How can I do that?
471. # [07:31] <grantg> and having nearest-neighbor scaling is way faster anyhow with the canvas.
472. # [07:31] <yvkrishna> I have a web page in which there is a submit button, I want that submit button be clicked defaultly when ever I hit a refresh. How can I do that?
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475. # [07:40] <paul_irish> shichuan: do you like plugins.js ?
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477. # [07:41] <paul_irish> cuz i just REMOVD IT
478. # [07:41] <paul_irish> yvkrishna: you can't detect a user hitting the refresh button
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480. # [07:42] <grantg> sorry
481. # [07:42] <grantg> wrong link
482. # [07:42] <grantg> :P
483. # [07:42] <paul_irish> o
484. # [07:42] <grantg> lol
485. # [07:43] <paul_irish> because.. that is chrome moving on it
486. # [07:44] <shichuan> paul_irish: the plugins.js was removed?
487. # [07:44] <paul_irish> yup just now
488. # [07:44] <yvkrishna> paul_irish, I have the changed the webpage by the name ""index.html",can I change the html code in such a way that when ever the user opens the file,the submit button should be clicked?
489. # [07:44] * therevsionwalker is now known as tbranyen
490. # [07:44] <yvkrishna> paul_irish, I have the changed the webpage by the name ""index.html",can I change the html code in such a way that when ever the user opens the file,the submit button would be clicked?
491. # [07:45] <shichuan> paul_irish: i feel it's optional
492. # [07:45] <paul_irish> yvkrishna: your IRC client has a bug where it says everything twice.
493. # [07:45] <paul_irish> yvkrishna: <body onload="document.getElementByID('theformelement').submit();">
494. # [07:46] <yvkrishna> yvkrishna, where do I need to write that line?
495. # [07:46] <paul_irish> thats like.. your body tag.
496. # [07:46] <paul_irish> if you dont know where your body is... then you've got some problems :)
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498. # [07:46] <yvkrishna> yvkrishna, yeah, sorry for such a stupid question
499. # [07:50] <yvkrishna> paul_irish, it didnot work
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659. # [15:18] <yvkrishna> I have the saved the webpage by a name ""index.html" from my college's results portal,in which there is a submit button, when clicked will get the marks of the student whose hall ticket number is bring entered.I can fill the empty text box with the hall ticket number by editing the html code,can I change the html code in such a way that when ever the user opens the file,the submit button would be clicked?
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662. # [15:21] <yvkrishna> can any body help me?
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686. # [15:46] <yvkrishna> can any body help me?
687. # [15:46] <yvkrishna> I have the saved the webpage by a name ""index.html" from my college's results portal,in which there is a submit button, when clicked will get the marks of the student whose hall ticket number is bring entered.I can fill the empty text box with the hall ticket number by editing the html code,can I change the html code in such a way that when ever the user opens the file,the submit button would be clicked?
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695. # [15:58] <Moo-_> yvkrishna: you can execute Javascript code when HTML file is loaded using onload handler
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709. # [16:28] <yvkrishna> hi
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742. # [17:43] <dpy> hi guys
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744. # [17:43] <dpy> does anyone understand this behaviour: http://jsbin.com/edide4/5 ?? (question is on the page)
745. # [17:44] <dpy> it's consistent between at least FF and Cr
746. # [17:44] <dpy> but I don't get it...
747. # [17:45] <dpy> it's like going from 'display: none;' to 'display: block;' will override all transitions....
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753. # [17:53] <niftylettuce> hm
754. # [17:56] <dpy> answer to my question: display property cannot be used in transitions, need to use height/width: 0, visibility or opacity property
755. # [17:57] <dpy> http://jsbin.com/edide4/6 (FIX)
756. # [17:57] <niftylettuce> you're strictly doing this for CSS only based in/out states?
757. # [17:57] <niftylettuce> using ease in out
758. # [17:58] <niftylettuce> nice
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763. # [18:05] <chriseppstein> http://hslpicker.com/
764. # [18:06] <niftylettuce> fancybuttonmaker.plz
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772. # [18:18] <IanWizard> Is there any reason that having a video file that is being played (actually streamed really), stop producing frames be a problem for browsers?
773. # [18:18] <IanWizard> Such as that it's a "dangling framerate".
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781. # [18:34] <snover> eh?
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803. # [19:18] <croby> is there a way for Chrome's developer tools to parse a JSON response from a request and display it in a similar way to how Firebug does?
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806. # [19:23] <Pewpewarrows> croby: natively not that I know of since I last checked
807. # [19:23] <Pewpewarrows> but you could always open the response in a new tab/window, and use something like: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/epmaefhielclhlnmjofcdapbeepkmggh
808. # [19:23] <Pewpewarrows> to explore the response
809. # [19:24] <croby> is there a plugin or something out there that does it by chance?
810. # [19:24] <Pewpewarrows> won't help you much for post ones though
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812. # [19:24] <Pewpewarrows> chrome extensions can't access the dev tools
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815. # [19:25] <croby> damn - i think that's the last thing preventing me from using chrome 100% of the time for dev -- i constantly need to inspect long json responses
816. # [19:25] <egrouse> damn Pewpewarrows that looks like a sick extension
817. # [19:26] * egrouse gets
818. # [19:26] <Pewpewarrows> egrouse: it's really nice, but sometimes has "false positives"
819. # [19:26] <Pewpewarrows> that is, it thinks a real page is a source view
820. # [19:26] <Pewpewarrows> random stackoverflow pages will try and render as source html
821. # [19:27] <egrouse> yeah i guess it picks up on the source snippets eh
822. # [19:27] <Pewpewarrows> yeah something like that
823. # [19:28] <egrouse> shame there's no fontsize option
824. # [19:28] * egrouse hits cmd - a few times
825. # [19:28] <egrouse> bbl
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840. # [19:48] <tktiddle> Can anyone explain this to me? http://pastie.org/1621659 i dont get the <!--<![endif]--> tag !
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844. # [19:56] <Fyrd> tktiddle: It just ends the IE conditional comment that was opened.
845. # [19:58] <tktiddle> Fyrd: OK thanks, you dont think the additional <!-- does anything then?
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848. # [19:59] <Fyrd> tktiddle: That's just how conditional comments work. IE reads them, other browsers just see a comment
849. # [19:59] <tktiddle> Oh OK i see it is special not IE comment http://haslayout.net/condcom
850. # [19:59] <Fyrd> Yeah, there you go.
851. # [20:00] <tktiddle> Fyrd: thanks
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854. # [20:06] <jamund> hi! themiddleman_itv: how is your mobile web app coming?
855. # [20:07] <themiddleman_itv> jamund: its okay, I am thinking about how to do data, I am thinking of having some nice session stuffs and magics
856. # [20:07] <jamund> local storage!
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864. # [20:20] <themiddleman_itv> is this an apple? ð
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867. # [20:23] <brdma> Anyone care to recommend an html5 book or two?
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869. # [20:24] <hober> brdma: Dive Into HTML5
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878. # [20:37] <brdma> Any reason you can think of that the page doesn't load properly in Chrome, but loads fine in FireFox?
879. # [20:38] <brdma> (the site your referred me to)
880. # [20:38] <brdma> basically just continues trying to load over and over again in Chrome.
881. # [20:38] <paul_irish> ?g dive into html5
882. # [20:38] <bot-t> paul_irish, Dive Into HTML5 - http://diveintohtml5.org/
883. # [20:39] <brdma> Yes, that.
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885. # [20:44] <danbeam> brdma: http://hg.diveintohtml5.org/hgweb.cgi/raw-file/a00fbc1aa12e/index.html <-- might try the non-minified version
886. # [20:44] <danbeam> brdma: minified version hangs for me in Chromium Ubuntu (in the source it says: readable source @ http://hg.diveintohtml5.org/hgweb.cgi/file/tip/index.html, which lead me to that link)
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888. # [20:49] <Dazzled> Anyone know if Chrome (latest beta) fullfills the complete Websocket r76 draft?
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890. # [20:50] <paul_irish> Dazzled: http://www.chromium.org/developers/web-platform-status#TOC-Offline-and-XHR
891. # [20:50] <Dazzled> as I tried with a Python client, and I believe Chrome does not send 0xFF 0x00 when closing
892. # [20:51] <Dazzled> paul_irish: thanks
893. # [20:52] <brdma> danbeam: Thanks :)
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895. # [20:56] <Dazzled> now I tried this example with my own server: http://slides.html5rocks.com/#web-sockets
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897. # [20:56] <Dazzled> Chrome just kills the TCP connection, instead of sending a "close notify"
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902. # [21:06] <brdma> Does the O'Reilly version of HTML5 Up and Running differ from diveintohtml5.org in any major way?
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904. # [21:06] <hober> brdma: it's out of date
905. # [21:06] <brdma> Bah
906. # [21:06] <hober> brdma: but it earns mark money when you buy it.
907. # [21:07] <brdma> I'd be more interested in donating money and reading the up to date page :)
908. # [21:07] <brdma> Thank you for the answer, too.
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922. # [21:24] <Dazzled> So... the WebSocket r76 isn't fully integrated, yet?
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927. # [21:40] <roach> what would be a proper way to play an audio file on the background?
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933. # [21:48] <danielfilho> is diveintohtml5.com in some oriental language for you guys?
934. # [21:49] <paul_irish> http://www.hteeml.com/
935. # [21:50] <nimbupani> ORIENTAL LANGUAGE
936. # [21:50] <nimbupani> hahahahaa
937. # [21:50] <nimbupani> yes its in chinese as far as i can tell
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939. # [21:50] <paul_irish> http://www.hteeml.com/featured-products/embed-with-you.html
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942. # [21:52] <paul_irish> three lakes wisconsin appears to have a shortage of decent jokes.
943. # [21:52] <danielfilho> damn. I know it's something from the other side of the globe. I don't know if is katagana(?), hiragana(?), cantonese, chinese, tchururuese or whatever. Hahaha
944. # [21:52] <paul_irish> :)
945. # [21:52] <nimbupani> its bad etiquette to mention ORIENTAL
946. # [21:53] <nimbupani> the correct word is ASIAN
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948. # [21:53] <paul_irish> unless you're talking about tea or rugs.
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950. # [21:53] <paul_irish> or people of indeterminable origin.
951. # [21:53] <paul_irish> like divya.
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953. # [21:53] <paul_irish> im pretty sure she's oriental
954. # [21:53] <nimbupani> ?slap paul_irish
955. # [21:53] * bot-t slaps paul_irish around a bit with a large trout
956. # [21:53] <nimbupani> ORIENTAL ENOUGH?
957. # [21:54] <paul_irish> yes ma'am. :'(
958. # [21:54] <nimbupani> :)
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960. # [21:54] <danielfilho> oh, sorry nimbupani. Here in Brazil is ok to mention "oriental" for asiatic. I swear!
961. # [21:55] <danielfilho> well... 'til some weeks ago I didn't even knew that "nimbupani" was "she".
962. # [21:55] <nimbupani> :))) i am sure it is. Some words are fine in some regions but not in others.
963. # [21:55] <danielfilho> :D
964. # [21:55] <nimbupani> :)))
965. # [21:55] <nimbupani> yes its pretty hard to guess
966. # [21:55] <danielfilho> anyway, sorry. Replace that for asiatic language.
967. # [21:56] <nimbupani> no worries danielfilho! I was not offended!
968. # [21:56] <danielfilho> :)
969. # [21:56] <nimbupani> just that its not usual to use that word :)
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977. # [22:13] <Fyrd> Crazy how many people search for "div" on caniuse.
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979. # [22:13] <antonkovalyov> wait wat
980. # [22:13] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani is she and oriental?
981. # [22:14] <Fyrd> I know, right?
982. # [22:14] <Fyrd> Oh.
983. # [22:14] <nimbupani> lawlsss
984. # [22:14] <antonkovalyov> i thought nimbupani was an alternative nick for paul_irish
985. # [22:14] <antonkovalyov> or vice versa
986. # [22:14] <antonkovalyov> not sure now
987. # [22:14] <antonkovalyov> confused
988. # [22:14] <nimbupani> yes when paul_irish likes to be misunderstood he uses nimbupani
989. # [22:14] * nimbupani oops
990. # [22:14] <antonkovalyov> ha
991. # [22:14] <Fyrd> I thought she was a company at first.
992. # [22:15] <nimbupani> i am a company too
993. # [22:15] <nimbupani> >_>
994. # [22:15] <antonkovalyov> haha
995. # [22:15] <Fyrd> That explains that then.
996. # [22:16] <Fyrd> Just didn't realize there was a person behind it.
997. # [22:16] <nimbupani> yes for some personality
998. # [22:16] <Fyrd> Crazy stunts they pull nowadays...
999. # [22:17] <paul_irish> Fyrd: i sometimes feel like my ctrl-F find isnt nearly as successful as the build-in Find box.
1000. # [22:17] <paul_irish> why is that.
1001. # [22:18] <Fyrd> 'cause not all content is loaded on the page?
1002. # [22:18] <Fyrd> Used to be.
1003. # [22:18] <Fyrd> But then it became too much.
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1005. # [22:19] <Fyrd> Maybe I should bind ctrl-F to focus the search field. :)
1006. # [22:23] <paul_irish> yeah! good idea
1007. # [22:24] <Fyrd> I dunno, might piss people off.
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1009. # [22:26] <BrianBlakely> Fyrd: Alt-F
1010. # [22:27] <Fyrd> BrianBlakely: But what of the people accessing the <u>F</u>ile menu?
1011. # [22:30] <BrianBlakely> Fyrd: Like keyboard-only users? Is that really common? Seems like there are a plethora of shortcuts to handle everything in File
1012. # [22:30] <Fyrd> Yeah, that was semi-jokingly.
1013. # [22:30] <BrianBlakely> Thank you
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1015. # [22:31] <Fyrd> Alt-F could work, not sure how many people would bother though.
1016. # [22:31] <Fyrd> Personally I recommend searching right in the URL after /
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1018. # [22:33] <Fyrd> Ah, gotta run.
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