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  31. # [00:58] <niftyg> is anyone here?
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  56. # [02:17] <xonecas> o/
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  61. # [02:22] <niftylettuce> paul_irish, hey how did you record those h5bp vids?
  62. # [02:22] <niftylettuce> paul_irish, I need to record something like that for a startup accelerator submission
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  64. # [02:26] <paul_irish> screenflow
  65. # [02:27] <niftylettuce> paul_irish, Apple only product? is there a Debian/Ubuntu alternative you might know of?
  66. # [02:29] <niftylettuce> nvm found it
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  70. # [03:09] <daleharvey> paul_irish: when is webkit/chrome gonna fix their butt ugly gradients :P
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  77. # [05:39] * Topic is 'Welcome, amigos :: Ask any question about html5 & Friends. || Author Spec: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec-author-view/ || Full spec: http://whatwg.org/html5 || Also: http://html5rocks.com http://diveintohtml5.org http://mzl.la/9giLwR http://html5homi.es'
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  191. # [13:04] <mokush> you guys, help me out with some js wizdom to get rid of an eval
  192. # [13:04] <mokush> for this snippet http://jsbin.com/izega3/edit
  193. # [13:05] <beeviz> paul_irish do you wanna add my geolocation polyfill to your polyfills collection? :)
  194. # [13:05] <beeviz> http://code.google.com/p/better-geolocation-api/
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  212. # [13:56] <moo-_-> this is little off-topic
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  214. # [13:56] <moo-_-> but do you know good unicode character for [ x ]
  215. # [13:56] <moo-_-> deletion X
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  223. # [14:04] <niftylettuce> east coast womp womp womppp
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  236. # [14:28] <bencc> am I suppose to see a warning when using self-signed certificates with secure websockets, wss?
  237. # [14:28] <bencc> I tried it with chrome 10 and I don't see a warning, it just works.
  238. # [14:28] <bencc> Is this a bug or the expected behavior?
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  276. # [16:04] <mokush> is there any way to force google closure to keep certain var names?
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  278. # [16:07] <louisremi> mokush: store your vars in the window object: window.myVar = myVar; But you shouldn't have to do that on global variables anyway...
  279. # [16:08] <mokush> louisremi: problem is, those vars are not global
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  281. # [16:09] <louisremi> mokush: why do you want to keep their name then? Because you chose beautiful ones? ;-
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  283. # [16:09] <mokush> louisremi: I wish.
  284. # [16:09] <mokush> because I use this ultra ugly eval where I need the exact name of the vars
  285. # [16:10] <louisremi> oh, right
  286. # [16:10] <mokush> louisremi: this is the monstrosity: http://jsbin.com/izega3/edit
  287. # [16:10] <mokush> any ideea how I could get rid of the eval.
  288. # [16:11] <mokush> basicly I want the value of the var from outside the callback, as a parameter for the function in the callback
  289. # [16:12] <hober> don't bash strings together, do it like this
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  291. # [16:13] <hober> var loader = function(i) { feed.load(function(array) {cb(array, i);})};
  292. # [16:13] <hober> then call loader(sourceIndex)
  293. # [16:13] <hober> untested of course
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  295. # [16:16] <mokush> hober: thanks man, that pretty much makes sense, I'm going to test it right now
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  308. # [16:45] <louisremi> beeviz: I which case could the init function of your wrapper throw an error?
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  326. # [17:20] <paul_irish> beeviz: yeah how do you feel about changing the API so it uses navigator.geolocation..... instead
  327. # [17:20] <Michael> which api?
  328. # [17:21] <paul_irish> http://code.google.com/p/better-geolocation-api/
  329. # [17:21] <Michael> nice
  330. # [17:21] <Michael> I've been using the core lib
  331. # [17:21] <Michael> And it worked on iPhone and Droid
  332. # [17:23] <Michael> ugh @ IE9 not supporting WebGL
  333. # [17:23] <Michael> And ughx2 @ IE users saying "We don't care about WebGL"
  334. # [17:23] <Michael> If they only knew
  335. # [17:24] <Michael> Ignorant IE users...
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  344. # [17:33] <louisremi> ?tell paul_irish: I was willing to do exactly that. The code looks nice, but having to initialize it is annoying.
  345. # [17:33] <bot-t> louisremi, Okay.
  346. # [17:33] <paul_irish> amen.
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  348. # [17:35] <Michael> IE9's JS engine is surprisingly fast
  349. # [17:36] <Michael> It beat chrome in the sunspider tests
  350. # [17:36] <paul_irish> check this out http://paulirish.com/i/07e0.png :)
  351. # [17:37] <Michael> 299 vs 222
  352. # [17:37] <Michael> paul_irish, is it safe for work?
  353. # [17:37] <paul_irish> ya
  354. # [17:37] <paul_irish> its the IE dev lead emailing me late last night.
  355. # [17:38] <paul_irish> totally was a booty call
  356. # [17:38] <Michael> haha
  357. # [17:38] <paul_irish> jk jk
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  359. # [17:40] <Michael> According to sunspider comparisons, Chrome was 1.32 times slower
  360. # [17:40] <Michael> And why don't I care? Because IE won't support WebGL.
  361. # [17:42] <beeviz> paul_irish it does. if supported. or what do you mean?
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  366. # [17:47] <anoob> how do i do something when the user changed the contenteditable element? which event should i use?
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  371. # [17:50] <Michael> anoob, keyup, change
  372. # [17:50] <anoob> change doesn't work
  373. # [17:50] <Ms2ger> daleharvey, if you still want to know why textarea::-webkit-input-placeholder,textarea:-moz-placeholder { color:red; } doesn't work; it's because each browser fails to recognize half of the selector, and throws out the whole block
  374. # [17:50] <Michael> Try keup
  375. # [17:50] <Michael> keyup
  376. # [17:50] <Michael> blur keyup paste
  377. # [17:51] <anoob> Michael, figcaption.bind('change', function(event){alert('changed!');});
  378. # [17:51] <Michael> k try the other 3
  379. # [17:51] <Michael> You would probably want all 3 of those anyway
  380. # [17:51] <Michael> bbl town hall meeting
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  382. # [17:52] <daleharvey> Ms2ger: thanks, that does make sense
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  424. # [19:09] <dilvie> paul_irish: Got a mostly-working fix for H5Validate on Google Chrome. Will push an update shortly -- and a bug report with test case for the formnovalidate attribute problem in Chrome.
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  436. # [19:19] <danielfilho> hey paul_irish, youtube doesn't support chromium on html5 version? from youtube.com/html
  437. # [19:19] <danielfilho> :(
  438. # [19:20] <danielfilho> http://cl.ly/2P2i0P2K2o3J01200y0E
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  484. # [20:31] <seivan> Does anyone know how to get pixel colour from a canvas without getting the colour form behind?
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  488. # [20:37] <rgervais> if this is true: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues/378
  489. # [20:38] <rgervais> than I consider using IE conditional comments on <html> a deal breaker
  490. # [20:38] <rgervais> for those that can't touch the .htaccess that is huge
  491. # [20:38] <rgervais> I'd rather put on the <body> if that's the case
  492. # [20:38] <nimbupani> i am not so sure its true
  493. # [20:39] <nimbupani> we tested it
  494. # [20:39] <rgervais> I hope it isn't, i'm just saying
  495. # [20:39] <rgervais> I did a test myself and the only thing you can do is enable compatibility
  496. # [20:39] <rgervais> but I want to be 100% sure
  497. # [20:40] <nimbupani> yeah so i am not sure why that issue arises i will speak to shichuan since he seems to have found smthing.
  498. # [20:41] <rgervais> i'm hoping you leave that ticket open as it is closed
  499. # [20:42] <rgervais> so we can all see what you guys end up at
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  501. # [20:44] <nimbupani> https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues/285#comment_875561 is where we did the testing.
  502. # [20:44] <nimbupani> so i am pretty sure this is not an issue.
  503. # [20:49] <rgervais> hmm yea i see interesting.
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  505. # [20:53] <rgervais> yea I think you're right
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  507. # [20:53] <rgervais> I just did a document.documentMode
  508. # [20:53] <rgervais> looks all good
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  511. # [21:00] <speakman> Hm... Is it possible to make a "clipping area" width html5? Like, making a rectangle in the middle of the screen in which the content is shown. And when content is moved beside it, it is hidden?
  512. # [21:03] <speakman> Think like having a photo frame with content shown inside of it. And when content is moved aside (transition effect), the frame border hides it.
  513. # [21:03] <speakman> I tried it using a transparent image as a frame, but then the content didn't get any click events and such
  514. # [21:05] <tw2113> no idea if this will help at all, but it's worth a shot http://michaelbox.net/nonwordpress/playground/animated-bg.html
  515. # [21:06] <speakman> I also found this; http://www.ibloomstudios.com/articles/misunderstood_css_clip/
  516. # [21:06] <speakman> "clip" property in CSS 2.1
  517. # [21:06] <tw2113> i was playing around with the idea of a layer being a "window"
  518. # [21:07] <speakman> hey - iframe might be my friend here! (for the first time :)
  519. # [21:07] <tw2113> i even had the content in the "window" moving on hover
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  523. # [21:15] <rgervais> speakman: overflow: hidden is good for that
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  527. # [21:17] <speakman> rgervais: thanks!
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  540. # [21:46] <daleharvey> WOOOOOOTTT
  541. # [21:46] * daleharvey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaAI29UkVCc
  542. # [21:46] <daleharvey> this has seriously made my day
  543. # [21:48] <Michael> That's pretty cool :)
  544. # [21:49] <Michael> can't beat the name either
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  548. # [21:58] <daleharvey> and obligatory yc link - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2329291
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  556. # [22:16] <jordotech> is this the right channel for html5 video?
  557. # [22:16] <nimbupani> yep
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  567. # [22:28] <paul_irish> feels good man
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  569. # [22:29] <speakman> Is there an event for URL change? (the window.location.hash to be more precisely)
  570. # [22:30] <speakman> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/window.onhashchange
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  572. # [22:30] <speakman> looks like webkit handles it too, great!
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  579. # [22:44] <paul_irish> \o/
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  581. # [22:49] <nimbupani> paul_irish: have graphs to show page speed on using build tool?
  582. # [22:49] <nimbupani> wanna start building out the page for 1.0 release
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  584. # [23:04] <paul_irish> nimbupani: i dont have any no. old.mothereffinghsl.com and mothereffinghsl.com have a before and after
  585. # [23:05] <nimbupani> kay cool is the new site updated to latest boilerplate?
  586. # [23:05] <nimbupani> and using new build tool?
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  589. # [23:08] <speakman> How to implement a clock in a html5 proper way?
  590. # [23:08] <paul_irish> nimbupani: yup
  591. # [23:08] <nimbupani> kay cool
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  594. # [23:09] <speakman> is there a onTimeChange triggering on each second? Or is there a way to get the numer of miliseconds left until next second?
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  598. # [23:12] <djQuery> I dont understand the color coding with the meter control as implimented by chrome http://jsfiddle.net/djquery/LqQUm/8/
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  603. # [23:13] <djQuery> if the value = optimal-2 it turns yellow
  604. # [23:14] <djQuery> but if you are over the high it is still green
  605. # [23:15] <djQuery> is optimal supposed to be a % of the max?
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  616. # [23:35] <moo-_-> this question goes to category "crazy browser hacking" and this is not what you should do at home
  617. # [23:35] <moo-_-> but
  618. # [23:36] <moo-_-> is there a hook I can run when <body> becomes available in DOM tree?
  619. # [23:36] <moo-_-> it doesn't need to be fully loaded yet
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  621. # [23:42] <paul_irish> ?mdc DOMContentLoaded
  622. # [23:42] <bot-t> paul_irish, Gecko-Specific DOM Events - https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko-Specific_DOM_Events
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  626. # [23:49] <jetienne> (tips: do not use port beside 80/443 for anything or firewall will bite your ass)
  627. # [23:49] <jetienne> if i may say this word
  628. # [23:50] <jetienne> just frutrated by websocket behind firewall, missed my demo because of it
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