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# Session Start: Thu Mar 24 00:00:00 2011
# Session Ident: #html5
# [00:00] <paul_irish> "html5 history" aka pushState
# [00:00] <gavacho> i think i remember someone recommending a "enable js you idiot" snippet in here
# [00:01] <gavacho> ring any bells?
# [00:01] <bencc> paul_irish: thanks. looking
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# [00:02] <paul_irish> ?g enable-javascript.com
# [00:02] <bot-t> paul_irish, How to enable JavaScript in your browser and why - http://www.enable-javascript.com/
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# [00:03] <gavacho> thank you kindly sir
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# [00:10] <uf0> uf0 in the buildin!
# [00:10] <uf0> you better recognizeee
# [00:10] <uf0> border-radiusssess what yall at
# [00:11] <uf0> firefox4 take over
# [00:11] <uf0> html5 and css3 = fun!
# [00:11] <uf0> i just need me some nesting
# [00:11] <uf0> in css and then i'll go crzy
# [00:11] <uf0> and variables
# [00:12] <uf0> yea that'll do
# [00:12] <uf0> the future is SASS in the CSS spec!
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# [00:25] <svenlito_> paul_irish
# [00:25] <svenlito_> thought I might drop this here https://github.com/svnlto/stacey
# [00:25] <svenlito_> its a fork of stacey incl. the boilerplate etc
# [00:26] <dgathright> Currently in some HTML5 training. We're discussing why if there are HEADER and FOOTER elements, why is there no SECTION element specific to the body of that module. Anyone have an idea?
# [00:26] <paul_irish> svenlito_: hot. can you add it to the h5bp github wiki page?
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# [00:27] <svenlito_> paul_irish: yip
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# [00:51] <paul_irish> https://github.com/blog/821-mention-somebody-they-re-notified
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# [01:00] <xonecas> @mentions are the new email!
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# [01:16] <hober> dgathright: because the semantic for that is already captured in the markup: the container's content that aren't in its <header> or <footer>
# [01:17] <hober> dgathright: if you really need a container for that, <div> is the right element to use
# [01:17] <hober> dgathright: (since <section> would affect the document outline)
# [01:18] <hober> dgathright: If you'd like I can try to dig up the appropriate mailing list threads in which this got discussed. It's come up several times.
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# [01:26] <kennyluck> Is this channel properly logged? If not, why not?
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# [01:59] <dgathright> hober: That makes sense. If you can easily find it, sure, otherwise, don't worry about it. Thanks
# [02:02] <tw2113> that merging of branches took longer than i would have preferred
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# [02:16] <paul_irish> kennyluck: its logged by krijn on the same service that logs #whatwg
# [02:18] <kennyluck> paul_irish, ah, thank you. Didn't see it from the title of this channel and failed to make the effort to do a bit of googling.
# [02:19] <paul_irish> np. i dont own the channel so i can't update the topic to point to it
# [02:19] <paul_irish> unfortch.
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# [02:29] <tw2113> should I be familiar with REST at all?
# [02:30] <tw2113> or is that kind of a specialization?
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# [02:48] <chrislorenz> paul_irish: For that webgl "world" demo you showed at the SXSW google event. Is that public somewhere or something that is cooking privately?
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# [02:49] <paul_irish> http://studio.html5rocks.com/samples/globe/index.html
# [02:49] <paul_irish> that one?
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# [02:50] <chrislorenz> The one where it rendered the earth and showed a flaring type effect. Sorry I forgot what it was called
# [02:54] <themiddleman> paulrouget: you use ubuntu 64 bit + ati + fglrx + ff4 and you have webgl working right?
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# [03:06] <shichuan> paul_irish: hey man, i sent to u and divya a mail earlier talking abt the progress of mobile bp, are you cool w the points?
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# [03:07] <paul_irish> shichuan: yes.
# [03:07] <paul_irish> sounds great to me
# [03:07] <shichuan> ok, cool :)
# [03:07] <paul_irish> lemme look at helper.js right now
# [03:08] <shichuan> yea, that's the only thing i wanna sort out right now
# [03:08] <paul_irish> shichuan: you shouldnt need the .gitignore in mylibs
# [03:08] <shichuan> arh, ok, will remove that
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# [03:09] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: hey bro can i include you as part of my presentation?
# [03:09] <paul_irish> like my face
# [03:09] <paul_irish> ".... and this is paul irish. "
# [03:09] <niftylettuce> :_)
# [03:09] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: umm maybe that quote you gave me in the past
# [03:09] <paul_irish> sounds good
# [03:09] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: and that you give us pointers and stuff
# [03:09] <chrislorenz> haha
# [03:09] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: I present tomorrow... ughhhhh
# [03:10] <niftylettuce> paul_irish: so nervous.. so surreal
# [03:14] <paul_irish> how many times have you practiced
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# [03:14] <paul_irish> hopefully like a dozen.
# [03:14] <paul_irish> also in front of people
# [03:14] <paul_irish> is better than practicing 10 times by yourself
# [03:17] <paul_irish> shichuan: you have docs for whats goin on in helper.js ?
# [03:18] <paul_irish> i guess most of it is http://code.google.com/mobile/articles/fast_buttons.html
# [03:19] <shichuan> yea, it's taken from google articles
# [03:19] <shichuan> paul_irish: and for the autogrow, it's taken from http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2009/07/gmail-for-mobile-html5-series.html
# [03:20] <shichuan> i am thinking changing the autogrow to a generic helper instead of a jquery one
# [03:21] <shichuan> think this file is a bit messy with both jquery and non-jquery stuff inside, what u think?
# [03:22] <paul_irish> yeah i think it'd be nice to de-jquery this autogrow
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# [03:23] <paul_irish> also i'm thinking these methods should be namespaced behind : new MBP.fastButton(elem)
# [03:23] <paul_irish> etc
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# [03:24] <lavrikanec> hello
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# [03:24] <shichuan> arh, ok
# [03:25] <lavrikanec> simpliest canvas code doesn't work in chrome http://pastebin.com/Guu4JBrs
# [03:25] <lavrikanec> i suspect im doin smth wrong
# [03:25] <paul_irish> lavrikanec: its probably a cross-origin issue
# [03:25] <paul_irish> also you should use jsfiddle.net
# [03:25] <lavrikanec> it doesn't work on webkits
# [03:26] <lavrikanec> what do you mean by saying "cross-origin"?
# [03:26] <lavrikanec> im not well with english (
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# [03:26] <paul_irish> you can't put an image from one domain on a canvas created by another
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# [03:26] <paul_irish> and i bet you're running the page as file://
# [03:26] <lavrikanec> yeah i know
# [03:26] <lavrikanec> nope
# [03:26] <lavrikanec> i ve already excluded that
# [03:26] <paul_irish> welllllllllll
# [03:26] <paul_irish> you should just put this page online
# [03:27] <paul_irish> so we can look at it forreal
# [03:27] <lavrikanec> ooook
# [03:27] <lavrikanec> bu wait
# [03:27] <lavrikanec> i cant paste it on jsfiddle
# [03:27] <lavrikanec> it won't be "cross-origin", will it? )
# [03:28] <paul_irish> <img id=s src="http://jsfiddle.net/img/logo.png">
# [03:28] <paul_irish> tada
# [03:29] <lavrikanec> so cool
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# [03:31] <paul_irish> shichuan: yeah i got some ideas with this javascript. let me know when you've got a revision and i'll try my hand as well
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# [03:33] <lavrikanec> u seem to be a guy who keeps mysterious secrets of that canvas stuff
# [03:33] <lavrikanec> damn
# [03:33] <lavrikanec> it works on jsfiddle
# [03:33] <lavrikanec> im running it under apache
# [03:34] <shichuan> paul_irish: i will only be touching it at night (sg time), so it's gonna be at least 10 hours from now. if you wanna add any totally new functions, can add first. and i am cool with the MBP namespace, i can tweak that later
# [03:34] <lavrikanec> :(
# [03:35] <paul_irish> lavrikanec: you could put it online on your host
# [03:35] <paul_irish> or something
# [03:35] <paul_irish> shichuan: okay. i'm not adding
# [03:35] <paul_irish> was just gonna remove some of the functions and inline some stuff
# [03:35] <lavrikanec> ow yeah
# [03:36] <lavrikanec> im not usually such dumb u know
# [03:36] <shichuan> paul_irish: ok, i will ping you once it's changed
# [03:36] <paul_irish> k
# [03:39] <lavrikanec> http://iknowyouwantme.ru/svfu/
# [03:39] <lavrikanec> bottom lines in logic.js
# [03:40] <lavrikanec> errr wait
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# [03:44] <xonecas> paul_irish: the font on the boilerplate site, is it MOLOT?
# [03:45] <paul_irish> ues
# [03:45] <paul_irish> yes
# [03:45] <xonecas> :-/
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# [03:45] <tw2113> MOLOT = Made of Love or Tequila?
# [03:46] <xonecas> By the looks of the font I would say its more along the lines of: MOLOTov
# [03:46] <tw2113> crap, mis-read the "font" part
# [03:47] <xonecas> Man I need a bulky font, thats *very* uncommon
# [03:47] <lavrikanec> ok
# [03:47] <lavrikanec> now it tell me something i dont understand
# [03:47] <lavrikanec> something in drawImage method
# [03:48] <lavrikanec> NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE and it refers to the line where drawImage is called
# [03:48] <lavrikanec> i really lame at canvas, wtf is this? (
# [03:48] <paul_irish> maybe the image hasnt finished loading
# [03:48] <paul_irish> and you should trigger off the load event of the image
# [03:49] <xonecas> lavrikanec: make sure you are drawing within the bounds of the canvas, also make sure you're images are preloaded with js before you call them into canvas
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# [03:49] <lavrikanec> nice one
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# [03:50] <xonecas> I get that error alot when I mess up the math and try to draw outside of the canvas
# [03:50] <lavrikanec> i think webkit doesnt show because they arent loaded yet
# [03:51] <paul_irish> v8 is too fastttttt
# [03:57] <nimbupani> xonecas: yes it is!
# [03:58] <nimbupani> molotis like the free font on google fonts
# [03:58] <nimbupani> sorry i think it was on font squirrell
# [03:58] <nimbupani> but it was the only slab font
# [03:59] <lavrikanec> one more stupid question
# [03:59] <lavrikanec> how can i pass jquery objects in canvas methods?
# [04:01] <paul_irish> you cannot
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# [04:04] <lavrikanec> bingo-bongo
# [04:04] <lavrikanec> really, webkit wait for the image to be fully loaded
# [04:04] <xonecas> nimbupani: paul_irish http://xonecas.com/ DistantGalaxy > MOLOT
# [04:04] <lavrikanec> when i added preload it is all fixed
# [04:05] <xonecas> :-)
# [04:05] <paul_irish> hottt
# [04:07] <nimbupani> aww bauce xonecas
# [04:08] <nimbupani> i mean nice*
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# [04:08] <xonecas> now I need a alternate background tile, and setup so that it changes randomly every page request
# [04:08] <xonecas> (yeah, i'm bored)
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# [04:18] <lavrikanec> how can i pass the link on the element which was selected by jquery to the canvas?
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# [04:29] <xonecas> http://www.tartanmaker.com <-- awesome :-)
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# [04:59] <lavrikanec> paul_irish
# [05:00] <lavrikanec> how can i pass the link on the element which was selected by jquery to the canvas?
# [05:00] <lavrikanec> i almost broken
# [05:00] <lavrikanec> i have a couple of canvas
# [05:00] <lavrikanec> and i cant figure out how to link them to images
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# [05:31] <uf0> http://www.dolphinlandings.com/index_current.htm
# [05:31] <uf0> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0">
# [05:31] <uf0> ahhh memories memories
# [05:34] <xonecas> paul_irish: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate-server-configs/pull/17
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# [06:15] <dr0id> we can't have the action="" attribute blank in html5 ?
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# [06:33] <xonecas> bot-t ? tell paul_irish https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate-server-configs/pull/17
# [06:33] <xonecas> hum ... that didn;t work
# [06:35] <uf0> it's bot-t:
# [06:35] <xonecas> bot-t: tell paul_irish https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate-server-configs/pull/17
# [06:35] <bot-t> xonecas, Okay.
# [06:35] <uf0> it's bot-t: tell foo
# [06:35] <xonecas> uf0: thanks :-)
# [06:35] <uf0> k
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# [11:32] <beeevi7> any recommendations what tool to use to record coding screencasts in a good quality? free tools prefered ;)
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# [11:58] <beeevi7> ah, i forgot to mention: windows! ;)
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# [14:13] <bencc> is there something else similar to webkitnotifications?
# [14:13] <bencc> maybe html5 support changing the browser icon or something?
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# [15:01] <salazr> is it at all possible to capture audio on iOS from the browser?
# [15:02] <salazr> pretty sure it's not.. but just asking..
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# [15:22] <jetienne> salazr: never heard of it
# [15:22] <jetienne> and i think i would have :)
# [15:23] <salazr> thought so... we were really hoping this project would end up as a web app, but alas the client really wants this
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# [15:29] <jetienne> chrome just got <input> speech tho...
# [15:29] <jetienne> salazr: related but far from ios
# [15:29] <salazr> it's iOS/Android, but yeah
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# [15:44] <Zelest> I wish to build a Zelda-like multiplayer game with a leveling system and such like most MMORPG's have.. I've done some Googling for examples and such on how to use Canvas, but is this really possible to do with HTML5 and Canvas?
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# [15:49] <diamonds> Zelest: yes it's possible
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# [15:50] <Zelest> Well, it's possible alright.. I more meant, is it a decent platform to run on? Or will it be really slow/sluggish?
# [15:50] <Zelest> (sure, it depends on how I write it of course)
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# [15:51] <diamonds> no idea :)
# [15:52] <diamonds> but I think it's doable just because I've seen crazier stuff with canvas (crazier than zelda). I assume you mean old school zelda
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# [16:04] <Zelest> hehe yeah :)
# [16:05] <Zelest> I basically have no game development experience, but I think it would be cool to have a bigger nice web-based game that's multiplayer :D
# [16:07] <diamonds> go for it!
# [16:08] <BrianBlakely> Zelest: I think grantg will be all-too-eager inform you that advanced gaming on Canvas is very possible
# [16:08] <diamonds> what's the websockets sperm site?
# [16:08] <BrianBlakely> Zelest: Shit, you could make Ocarina of Time, if you are just targeting Chrome and Firefox
# [16:08] <diamonds> is it still up?
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# [16:09] <BrianBlakely> diamonds: http://www.tadpoli.com/
# [16:10] <diamonds> no one there :(
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# [16:12] <diamonds> anyway Zelest take a look there
# [16:12] <diamonds> imagine there are many more people :)
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# [16:13] <lonimurar> I'm using xhtml 1.1 as my doctype atm, what would the disadvantages be if I'd just swap it for html5? (without adding any new html5 elements per se) - no IE6 support I guess?
# [16:13] <Zelest> BrianBlakely, oh..
# [16:13] <miketaylr> it makes no difference, lonimurar
# [16:13] <Zelest> BrianBlakely, hehe, I gladly target those two for now..
# [16:13] <digitalfiz> BrianBlakely, is that yours?
# [16:13] <miketaylr> lonimurar: will still render in standards mode
# [16:13] <Zelest> BrianBlakely, I mean, if people are used to download tons of data to play game, I'm pretty sure they're allowed to install a browser for it :)
# [16:13] <lonimurar> oh cool :) guess I should just try it...
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# [16:17] <BrianBlakely> Zelest: You can also prompt IE users to install Google Chrome Frame
# [16:17] <BrianBlakely> Zelest: Which won't require admin priv to install… soon?
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# [16:18] <Zelest> Oh, nice
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# [16:19] <Zelest> Besides, to avoid developing because of the lack for support is fairly dumb.. it's not like it will adopt faster :P
# [16:19] <Zelest> Better to target a few browsers, make it good.. and hope the rest of the browsers catch up
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# [16:38] <shichuan> paul_irish: yo, namespace MBP was added for helper.js, and jquery functions are also converted. https://github.com/shichuan/mobile-html5-boilerplate/commit/d6981788981ab0d019b8a868ce415ae7e38be654
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# [16:53] <mahen23> anyone seen the website of paul irish
# [16:53] <mahen23> you can draw on the background
# [16:53] <mahen23> i want that on my website too
# [16:53] <mahen23> how do i proceed?
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# [16:57] <mahen23> found it suckers: http://paulirish.com/2010/my-harmonious-background-canvas/
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# [17:00] <tw2113> you could have asked him yourself in here
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# [17:04] <paul_irish> suckers
# [17:06] <tw2113> can we start "The Cult of Irish" yet?
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# [17:10] <paul_irish> noooooo
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# [17:43] <BrianBlakely> tw2113: North or South Irish??
# [17:44] <tw2113> North Paul Irish or South Paul Irish?
# [17:44] <BrianBlakely> That's objectification :|
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# [17:47] <Dorward> BrianBlakely: No, that's geolocation
# [17:48] <tw2113> *badun tssh*
# [17:49] <shichuan> i tot Saint Patrick's Day was last week?
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# [17:51] <BrianBlakely> Dorward: Thanks for bringing it back around, I was having trouble :P
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# [18:07] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, yo
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# [18:08] <xonecas> antonkovalyov: howdy
# [18:08] <xonecas> Nice to meet you!
# [18:08] <antonkovalyov> hey man
# [18:08] <antonkovalyov> same
# [18:08] <antonkovalyov> when did you leave?
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# [18:11] <xonecas> antonkovalyov: I had to go pretty early, like 11ish
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# [18:11] <xonecas> next time i'll stay longer, this time I had promised a friend I would have a beer with him while in san fran
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# [18:12] <antonkovalyov> xonecas, i see, no worries. :-)
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# [18:14] <nimbupani> Yo hipster antonkovalyov!
# [18:14] <antonkovalyov> hippie nimbupani :)
# [18:14] <nimbupani> yeah we all gotta move up the scales
# [18:15] <nimbupani> i wonder whats after hippie? Homeless?
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# [18:15] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, hahaha
# [18:15] <antonkovalyov> its all steve jobs in the end
# [18:16] <nimbupani> hahaha he is the ultimate fake hipster
# [18:16] <nimbupani> like the original fake hipster.
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# [18:16] <nimbupani> none can even come close. EVER.
# [18:16] <antonkovalyov> why fake, he used to live in a commune in oregon
# [18:16] <antonkovalyov> fucking commune. that is as hippie as you can go
# [18:17] <nimbupani> used to being the key word.
# [18:17] <nimbupani> or phrase even.
# [18:17] <paul_irish> nimbupani: http://forrst.com/posts/boil_Quick_access_to_HTML5_Boilerplate-Oy8
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# [18:18] <antonkovalyov> hey paul_irish, what was that hipster hotel name in portland?
# [18:18] <nimbupani> oh sounds good.
# [18:18] <nimbupani> ACE hotel
# [18:18] <nimbupani> ASK ME
# [18:18] <paul_irish> ace hotel
# [18:18] <paul_irish> you should ask nimbu
# [18:18] <antonkovalyov> haha, fucking hipsters
# [18:18] <paul_irish> apparently she is the predefined resource for all things both portland and hipster
# [18:18] <paul_irish> I APOLOGIZE NIMBU
# [18:19] <nimbupani> i only know about portland from portlandia
# [18:19] <nimbupani> i think thats authentic enough.
# [18:19] <antonkovalyov> oh god
# [18:19] <antonkovalyov> http://www.acehotel.com/portland
# [18:19] <antonkovalyov> is that it?
# [18:19] * paul_irish np: The Paradise - In Love With You
# [18:19] <paul_irish> ask her.
# [18:19] <nimbupani> YES
# [18:19] <nimbupani> thats it.
# [18:19] <nimbupani> its obvious no?
# [18:19] <antonkovalyov> so hipster
# [18:19] <antonkovalyov> hopefully i can reserve online
# [18:20] <nimbupani> hahahaha
# [18:20] <antonkovalyov> no need to phone or send them paper mail
# [18:20] <nimbupani> yeah they are fake enough for that.
# [18:21] <xonecas> lol
# [18:21] <antonkovalyov> "num of children", "num of dogs"
# [18:21] <antonkovalyov> dear god
# [18:21] <xonecas> you guys are all waaaaaaay too hip for me
# [18:21] <BrianBlakely> Do they accept reservations from guests over the age of 21?
# [18:21] <nimbupani> not hip
# [18:21] <paul_irish> they ask you your favorite movie
# [18:21] <nimbupani> well hipsters come in all ages and sizes BrianBlakely
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# [18:22] <antonkovalyov> $600!
# [18:22] <paul_irish> and then they give you a VHS that's so way better and you probably havent heard of
# [18:23] <antonkovalyov> "room includes ... custom artwork from local and international artist"
# [18:23] <xonecas> ahahah
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# [18:23] <antonkovalyov> when are you leaving paul_irish, nimbupani?
# [18:23] <xonecas> now I know why its 600 bucks
# [18:23] <antonkovalyov> i am thinking may 1-5
# [18:23] <paul_irish> i'm sunday to wed morning
# [18:23] <nimbupani> antonkovalyov: sunday to wed yeah
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# [18:24] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, are you leaving on wednesday? i though you guys are doing nodeconf
# [18:24] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, ^
# [18:24] <paul_irish> im not
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# [18:24] <paul_irish> shes not either
# [18:24] <nimbupani> no i am not
# [18:24] <nimbupani> i am like not even doing JsConf
# [18:25] <xonecas> nimbupani: is to cool for confs, she's just going for the hangout
# [18:26] <nimbupani> hahahaha
# [18:26] <nimbupani> well i *could* say that, tix got sold out before I could even decide :/
# [18:26] <antonkovalyov> they accept amex, good
# [18:27] <antonkovalyov> i thought they will require cash in the mail or something
# [18:27] <nimbupani> ha paul_irish that boil thing does seem overengineered.
# [18:27] <nimbupani> no no antonkovalyov thats what hippies do.
# [18:27] <nimbupani> hipsters just do the bare minimum to stay grounded.
# [18:27] <xonecas> nimbupani: same here, got no tix, I'm just going to wait for the videos
# [18:28] <chipnt> where can i get a list of what browsers are curently supporting html5 ?
# [18:28] <nimbupani> caniuse.com chipnt
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# [18:28] <antonkovalyov> HAHAHA http://dl.dropbox.com/u/447925/Screenshots/q9iw1m9d0hd2.png
# [18:28] <antonkovalyov> that is on the checkout page
# [18:28] <paul_irish> i told you about that like forever ago
# [18:28] <nimbupani> ya that what paul_irish mentioned i suppose!
# [18:29] <paul_irish> that used to be my favorite part of the checkout process but i'm over it now
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# [18:29] <antonkovalyov> sorry, paul_irish, missed it
# [18:29] <chipnt> thanks
# [18:29] <nimbupani> everyone wants to be hipster these days.
# [18:29] <nimbupani> so over it.
# [18:29] <antonkovalyov> they need like "xoxo" after the checkout
# [18:29] <paul_irish> so over it.
# [18:30] <paul_irish> anton used xoxo in his presentation the other day
# [18:30] <nimbupani> awwwww
# [18:30] <paul_irish> it was magic
# [18:31] <antonkovalyov> davidcramer-home, i got
# [18:31] <antonkovalyov> oops
# [18:32] <antonkovalyov> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/447925/Screenshots/j4rkj0ffymi5.png <- CONFIRMED
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# [18:32] <antonkovalyov> super hipster hotel
# [18:32] <nimbupani> :)))
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# [18:33] <paul_irish> BAM
# [18:33] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, i fully expect it to be like a hotel from a portlandia episode
# [18:34] <xonecas> \o/
# [18:34] <nimbupani> i bet it will be.
# [18:34] <nimbupani> you have nothing to worry about antonkovalyov
# [18:34] <antonkovalyov> with all those jsconf themed parties, i feel like i am going on a fucking disney land trip
# [18:35] <nimbupani> HAHAHAHHAHA
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# [18:38] <antonkovalyov> okay, time to MAKE MY OWN COFFEE, nimbupani
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# [18:38] <shichuan> i mean isn't web dev considered a subculture? i mean compare to other more 'close sourced' industries
# [18:39] <antonkovalyov> shichuan, like steel industry? maybe
# [18:39] <shichuan> so maybe there is some connection between hipster culture and web community?
# [18:39] <nimbupani> OKAY OKAY antonkovalyov you WIN
# [18:39] <xonecas> http://cars.failblog.org/2011/03/23/funny-car-photos-who-needs-wheels-when-you-have-this-guy-around/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TWBO+%28That+Will+Buff+Out%29 awesome
# [18:39] <antonkovalyov> shichuan, nah it is just jsconf and nimbupani with paul_irish
# [18:39] <nimbupani> just for today. coz I make my own coffee too
# [18:40] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, ah shit :-)
# [18:40] <shichuan> lol, ok
# [18:40] <tw2113> antonkovalyov nimbupani any of you been to starbucks lately? :P
# [18:40] <nimbupani> NO
# [18:40] <nimbupani> but antonkovalyov ♥ s starbucks
# [18:40] <tw2113> like a long lost child?
# [18:41] <xonecas> I like house of bagels better
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# [18:42] <xonecas> at least their food doesn't scream bolimic chick
# [18:42] <tw2113> ooh bagel *drool*
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# [18:42] * xonecas puts a little bit more of cream cheese on his asiago cheese bagel, result? cheese bagel!
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# [18:43] <xonecas> robhawkes: congrats :-)
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# [18:46] <antonkovalyov> i <3 starbucks
# [18:46] <antonkovalyov> and i hate peets
# [18:46] <Jon47> what!?
# [18:47] * tw2113 has Dunn Bros costa rica coffee
# [18:47] <xonecas> antonkovalyov: You;re skinny, you fit the starbucks profile :-P
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# [18:47] <antonkovalyov> haha
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# [18:47] <antonkovalyov> basically, xonecas just called everybody else FAT
# [18:48] <tw2113> i'm big boned, not fat
# [18:48] <xonecas> antonkovalyov: thinking of opposite extremes is the path to the dark side
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# [18:49] <xonecas> you're skinny, most people are average, then come the fatties
# [18:49] <antonkovalyov> dark side? dude, i was on the dark side before it went mainstream
# [18:49] <shichuan> is subway a healthy choice of food?
# [18:49] <xonecas> shichuan: it depends, are you ordering the meatball marinara or a blt?
# [18:49] <tw2113> it has bread, so carbs, so no
# [18:50] <xonecas> antonkovalyov: now I see the darth vader in you
# [18:50] <tw2113> antonkovalyov is the guy who came up with the idea of serving koolaid to persuade to the dark side
# [18:50] <shichuan> i always order the healthier choice
# [18:50] <shichuan> like chicken breast
# [18:50] <tw2113> i tend to always get chicken n bacon ranch
# [18:50] <xonecas> then I think so, I eat subs alot, most of the time home made, but I go to subway when I'm lazy
# [18:51] <xonecas> I used to be like 260lbs after I stopped playing rugby
# [18:51] <xonecas> so now I'm more carefull
# [18:51] <robhawkes> xonecas: Thanks! :D
# [18:51] <BrianBlakely> Why is everyone meeting up in Portland? Come to NYC, we invented the hipster hotel in, like, the 1920s
# [18:52] <nimbupani> actully antonkovalyov does look a bit anakin-ish
# [18:52] <BrianBlakely> I want xonecas to tell me that it was nice to meet me :/
# [18:52] <xonecas> BrianBlakely: Did I meet you?
# [18:52] <BrianBlakely> No, because you weren't in NYC… were you?
# [18:52] <xonecas> No :-(
# [18:52] <xonecas> never been
# [18:53] <antonkovalyov> i love NYC
# [18:53] <BrianBlakely> Well that's your first mistake :)
# [18:53] <nimbupani> BrianBlakely: just land up in SF then everyone would say that to you.
# [18:53] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, hahaha
# [18:53] <xonecas> BrianBlakely: come over to the next meetup
# [18:53] <xonecas> nimbupani: if anton is anakin, does that mean that paul is obi? oh-o
# [18:54] <nimbupani> naw paul_irish is just han solo
# [18:54] <BrianBlakely> xonecas: Meetup of what?
# [18:54] <BrianBlakely> nimbupani: Douglas Crockford is Obi-Wan
# [18:54] <nimbupani> makes sense actually BrianBlakely
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# [18:54] <nimbupani> antonkovalyov even rebelled
# [18:54] <BrianBlakely> (it's the beard)
# [18:54] <nimbupani> against crok.
# [18:54] <BrianBlakely> Oh shi
# [18:54] <antonkovalyov> oh god
# [18:55] <antonkovalyov> who is the emperor then
# [18:55] <nimbupani> brendan eich?
# [18:55] <nimbupani> pardon misspellings
# [18:55] <xonecas> BrianBlakely: http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-JavaScript-Pub-Night/ cortesy of anton over there
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# [18:56] <xonecas> paulrouget: is the ev0l emperor trying to take over the work with his deathstart (fx4) :-P
# [18:56] <antonkovalyov> paul_irish, wanna be darth andeddu :D http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Andeddu
# [18:57] <nimbupani> hahahahaha
# [18:57] <nimbupani> no wai
# [18:57] <BrianBlakely> xonecas: I'll join the group. I can probably only go to, like, one… it's probably more expensive for me than most
# [18:57] <nimbupani> paul_irish is too adorbs for such evil activities
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# [18:58] <BrianBlakely> nimbupani do you live in Norway or USA or what?
# [18:58] <antonkovalyov> BrianBlakely, hipster-town
# [18:58] <BrianBlakely> Ah, Prague
# [18:58] <nimbupani> BrianBlakely: hahaha yes USA
# [18:58] <xonecas> but paulrouget is tall enough for a sith lord
# [18:58] <nimbupani> Seattle more like.
# [18:58] <BrianBlakely> oooh
# [18:58] <BrianBlakely> Actually, miketaylr lives in hipster town :)
# [18:58] <xonecas> BrianBlakely: if I can help reduce the costs with a place to stay let me know
# [18:59] <xonecas> We got a spare bedroom here at the house
# [18:59] <nimbupani> yeah he does.
# [18:59] <BrianBlakely> xonecas: That's a very generous offer, thanks!
# [18:59] <xonecas> you're welcome, bring your drinking cap tough
# [18:59] <BrianBlakely> Also, the Emperor would have to work at Microsoft
# [18:59] <xonecas> and you got to like dogs (both me and my roomate have a dog each)
# [18:59] <BrianBlakely> On the IE team
# [18:59] <xonecas> ahahah
# [19:00] <miketaylr> BrianBlakely: i lived here before it was cool, just sayin'
# [19:00] <BrianBlakely> xonecas: As long as they don't puke on my kicks, it's all good :D
# [19:00] <BrianBlakely> miketaylr: It was never not cool
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# [19:00] <miketaylr> hehe
# [19:00] <xonecas> BrianBlakely: they don't, they're more into lovin!
# [19:00] <nimbupani> hmm who works at Microsoft and fits the emperor role?
# [19:00] <nimbupani> cant think of anyone.
# [19:01] <nimbupani> O WAIT i do.
# [19:01] <nimbupani> but i wont say it.
# [19:01] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/1709098 << can anyone tell my why update() isn't firing?
# [19:01] <tw2113> ut oh, it's miketaylr
# [19:01] <antonkovalyov> i didn't know that dark female lords were hot http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Zannah
# [19:01] <diamonds> <audio onTimeUpdate="update();" ...
# [19:01] <miketaylr> >_>
# [19:02] <paulrouget> xonecas: ?
# [19:02] <antonkovalyov> if we're speaking about webdev the emperor has to work at facebook
# [19:02] <tw2113> hide yo source!
# [19:02] <tw2113> no wait, that's bad
# [19:02] <nimbupani> nono i got a perfect match for htis guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Palpatine1.jpg
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# [19:03] <paul_irish> whats up darth zannah
# [19:03] <diamonds> nm
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# [19:03] <paul_irish> shichuan: tabs or spaces?
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# [19:04] <shichuan> paul_irish: i use tabs, is there a diff?
# [19:04] <paul_irish> no but your JS has them mixed so i was asking about a preference
# [19:05] <paul_irish> so i could harmonize
# [19:05] <shichuan> i use tabs
# [19:05] <paul_irish> kk
# [19:05] <nimbupani> hahaha
# [19:05] <nimbupani> TABS
# [19:05] <shichuan> tab size = 2
# [19:05] <nimbupani> we are app space luvs
# [19:05] <nimbupani> soft tabs -> tab -> 2 spaces
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# [19:06] <xonecas> paulrouget: I was just kidding
# [19:06] <shichuan> let me google abt tabs vs spaces, i didnt really think much abt this
# [19:07] <shichuan> sry, dunno the diff
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# [19:08] <nimbupani> i meant paul_irish and I use spaces. no big deal though just need to be consistent I suppose.
# [19:09] <xonecas> shichuan: spaces beat tabs anytime!
# [19:09] <paul_irish> i think you're using 4 space tabs, actually
# [19:09] <paul_irish> but
# [19:09] <paul_irish> no big
# [19:09] <xonecas> that way I can set my prefered indent size with a simple vim regex :-)
# [19:10] <antonkovalyov> everybody should just use tabs with length 8
# [19:10] <antonkovalyov> old school linux kernel style
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# [19:11] <antonkovalyov> btw, people, did you know that linus is still the only one who has commit privileges for the kernel. there are a number of people from whom he accepts merges blindly but still holy fuck
# [19:11] <tw2113> he also loathes svn
# [19:11] <nimbupani> who knows/cares?
# [19:11] <nimbupani> well git is WAYYY better than svn
# [19:11] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, i care
# [19:11] <tw2113> linus started git too
# [19:11] <antonkovalyov> i am a linus torvalds fan boy
# [19:12] <xonecas> me too :-)
# [19:12] <tw2113> RMS vs LBT ?
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# [19:12] <nimbupani> kay kay.
# [19:12] * nimbupani makes a note.
# [19:13] <shichuan> ok, sry i am a bit stupid here, for instance, if i use tab with size 2 column, now if i want to switch to 2 spaces in nptepad++, does it mean i have to press space key twice?
# [19:13] <shichuan> *notepad++
# [19:14] <antonkovalyov> shichuan, no, most editors recognize a tab key and transform it into two spaces automatically
# [19:14] <antonkovalyov> you just need to find some setting saying "always use soft tabs" or something like that
# [19:14] <antonkovalyov> you should also switch to sublime 2
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# [19:15] <miketaylr> danielfilho: ping
# [19:15] <tw2113> so antonkovalyov what do you do your code in?
# [19:15] <shichuan> antonkovalyov, cool, thanks
# [19:16] <tw2113> text editor that is
# [19:16] <nimbupani> emacs?
# [19:17] <miketaylr> bot-t: tell danielfilho acho q venho a são paulo uns dias antes do brazil.js pra fazer umas entrevistas também!
# [19:17] <bot-t> miketaylr, Okay.
# [19:17] <miketaylr> CARRY ON EVERYONE
# [19:17] <antonkovalyov> tw2113, sublime2 and vim
# [19:18] <antonkovalyov> 99% of time in sublime2
# [19:18] <antonkovalyov> 1% (mostly when i need text editor on server) — vim
# [19:18] <tw2113> i tend to only touch vim when i need to or need to add myself to my computer's sudo list
# [19:18] <antonkovalyov> and 0.5% — textmate, cause it is sometimes useful when i want to un-minify javascript code
# [19:18] <BrianBlakely> diamonds: I dunno if you got this solved or not, but you placed a bunch of attributes into <body> which should be on the <audio>
# [19:19] <diamonds> yes thank you!
# [19:19] <tw2113> gedit is my primary editor these days, it was a tossup between textmate and that, depending on where i was
# [19:19] <antonkovalyov> nimbupani, i used to be a big emacs fan; then got tired writing configs in LISP. great language but not for configs
# [19:20] <nimbupani> oh :))))
# [19:20] <nimbupani> i expected NO LESS antonkovalyov from a linus fanboi
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# [19:21] <diamonds> I was going to mention it but people were so engrossed in a discussion of sith lords that I didn't think anyone was too concerned with my issue :p
# [19:21] <antonkovalyov> haha
# [19:22] <nimbupani> sry diamonds
# [19:22] <diamonds> oh no problem!
# [19:24] <paul_irish> nimbupani: https://github.com/shichuan/mobile-html5-boilerplate/compare/d698178...b73c0f5
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# [19:27] <nimbupani> o cool.
# [19:27] <BrianBlakely> Firefox 4 just achieved 1% global marketshare
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# [19:27] <paul_irish> boom
# [19:27] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: Does fastbutton just exchange click handlers for touch handlers?
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# [19:27] <paul_irish> on mobile the click event takes about 300ms
# [19:28] <BrianBlakely> Right
# [19:28] <paul_irish> so
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# [19:28] <paul_irish> basically yeah
# [19:28] <BrianBlakely> I'm just asking if that's what fastbutton does
# [19:28] <BrianBlakely> coo
# [19:28] <shichuan> it detects touch start
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# [19:29] <nimbupani> paul_irish: shichuan i dont see the delete the favicons/touch icons if not necessary thingie
# [19:29] <nimbupani> on index.html
# [19:29] <nimbupani> coz we advocate that in h5bp.
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# [19:29] <paul_irish> well
# [19:29] <shichuan> Mathias has a post abt it
# [19:29] <paul_irish> mobile doesnt use a favicon
# [19:30] <nimbupani> ya ya i mean the apple touch icons.
# [19:30] <paul_irish> and android 2.something doesnt grab the touchicon unless its specified explicitly
# [19:30] <nimbupani> okay. so for mobile optims we keep this for android 2's sake.
# [19:30] <BrianBlakely> I always associate "MBP" with "MacBook Pro"...
# [19:30] <paul_irish> ya
# [19:30] <paul_irish> MoBP?
# [19:30] <BrianBlakely> boiler?
# [19:31] <paul_irish> window.mobilehtml5boilerplatenamespace ?
# [19:31] <BrianBlakely> haha
# [19:31] <shichuan> lol
# [19:31] <shichuan> or boil? :)
# [19:31] <nimbupani> also could we not use conditional comments to include respond.js?
# [19:31] <nimbupani> like dd_png?
# [19:31] <paul_irish> hm
# [19:31] <BrianBlakely> Oh, mboi
# [19:32] <BrianBlakely> I can always trust mboi
# [19:32] <nimbupani> i mean which mobile browser does not support it?
# [19:32] <nimbupani> only IE < 9 doesnt.
# [19:32] <nimbupani> http://caniuse.com/#feat=css-mediaqueries
# [19:32] <paul_irish> ?g quirksmode mobile media queries
# [19:32] <bot-t> paul_irish, Combining meta viewport and media queries - QuirksBlog - QuirksMode - http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2010/09/combining_meta.html
# [19:32] <paul_irish> no!
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# [19:34] <nimbupani> i will dig into github issues to see if there is any associated with it. :P
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# [19:34] <nimbupani> my main concern is we shouldnt be adding too many scripts for mobile pages.
# [19:34] <nimbupani> network requests suck
# [19:34] <paul_irish> http://www.quirksmode.org/mobile/#t14
# [19:35] <BrianBlakely> nimbupani: This won't be delivered to the masses combined+minified?
# [19:35] <nimbupani> yeah but it will be delivered to ALL
# [19:35] <paul_irish> i guess its a good time to define browser support for MoBP
# [19:35] <nimbupani> so it seems to be only IE mobile paul_irish
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# [19:35] <paul_irish> old blackberry, netfront...
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# [19:36] <nimbupani> o yeah that too
# [19:36] <nimbupani> :|||
# [19:36] <nimbupani> wtf is UCWeb
# [19:36] <nimbupani> ?w UCWeb
# [19:36] <bot-t> nimbupani, UC Browser - UC Browser (also known as UCWEB) is a web browser for mobile devices, such as mobile phones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC_Browser
# [19:36] <nimbupani> ha does smthin like opera mini.
# [19:36] <shichuan> ucweb is for china i think
# [19:37] <nimbupani> ?w Obigo
# [19:37] <bot-t> nimbupani, Obigo Browser - Obigo Browser is a WEB/WAP browser for mobile phones, smartphones and other Mobile Internet Devices (MIDs) developed by the Obigo company. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obigo_Browser
# [19:40] <shichuan> modernizr won't detect media queries support right?
# [19:40] <nimbupani> not yet.
# [19:40] <shichuan> it will be nice if a script can
# [19:40] <paul_irish> i'm going to finish that today.
# [19:40] <nimbupani> ya it would be nice to tie em both in.
# [19:40] <paul_irish> respond.js has a detect for that built in
# [19:40] <shichuan> oh yea
# [19:41] <shichuan> maybe can move that outside
# [19:41] <BrianBlakely> I think I'm going to make a thing that allows web apps to retain their state on iOS
# [19:41] <BrianBlakely> That "refresh every time I open the app" stuff is bullshit
# [19:41] <shichuan> so it wont be even loaded, can use yepnope
# [19:41] <nimbupani> woah i know BrianBlakely
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# [19:41] <paul_irish> its a memory issue, last i heard
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# [19:42] <zewt> BrianBlakely: drives me nuts how web apps in "web app mode" on iOS, don't even retain history/hash state
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# [19:43] <zewt> i've worked around that with localStorage hacks :|
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# [19:43] <BrianBlakely> zewt: I was thinking of making a library that retains app state in just that way
# [19:44] <BrianBlakely> It's been a long-running goal actually, just need to flush out my damn backlog...
# [19:44] <zewt> i just stuff the hash state into localStorage in my hash-managing code (and, more recently, history-API), and restore it on startup, so it's fairly transparent
# [19:45] <zewt> (don't remember the particulars off-hand, but that's the gist)
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# [19:45] <zewt> and only for iOS, with a browser detect--since it's working around an iOS-specific bug (no real way to "feature-test")
# [19:45] <shichuan> paul_irish nimbupani: i am thinking maybe the hardboiled css can be removed
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# [19:46] <shichuan> paul_irish nimbupani: cos respond.js wont help
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# [19:47] <zewt> my #1 annoyance for web apps on mobile right now is android's broken address bar behavior ... wonder if anyone has found a better workaround for that mess than I have
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# [19:48] <shichuan> what broken add bar issue?
# [19:48] <zewt> eg. how android allows scrolling off the address bar for pages that scroll, but there's no way to get rid of it for single-page, full-page web apps (eg. google maps-esque); the browser decides that the page doesn't scroll, so it doesn't allow scrolling down to get rid of it
# [19:48] <zewt> (the address bar takes up a *lot* of screen space)
# [19:48] <zewt> at least up to android ... 2.2, I think was the last I tested with
# [19:50] <zewt> combined with a buggy window.scrollTo on that browser (it doesn't snap to the given position; it tweens to it)
# [19:50] <paul_irish> http://robertnyman.com/2011/03/24/my-new-job-technical-evangelist-for-mozilla/
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# [19:51] <diamonds> paul_irish or nimbupani what's the deal with the 5 apple-touch-icons in boilerplate?
# [19:51] <paul_irish> ?g mathias touch icons
# [19:51] <bot-t> paul_irish, Everything you always wanted to know about touch icons � Mathias ... - http://mathiasbynens.be/notes/touch-icons
# [19:51] <diamonds> ty
# [19:52] <zewt> the only workaround i've found for the android thing is to add padding to the bottom of the page (to allow scrolling), scrollTo, wait a little while for it to finish the tween, then remove the padding--which is ugly/brittle/apocalyptically horrible but the only thing I know of that works at all
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# [19:53] <shichuan> zewt: sounds like an ugly hack
# [19:53] <zewt> i think "apocalyptically horrible" covered that :)
# [19:54] <paul_irish> hahhahaha
# [19:54] <shichuan> wow
# [19:54] <zewt> (it's so ugly I wanted to be sure nobody assumed I thought it was a good solution :)
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# [19:59] <nimbupani> what you mean shichuan?
# [20:00] <shichuan> nimbupani: respond.js only supports min-width and max-width
# [20:01] <shichuan> nimbupani: hardboiled boilerplate uses device-width etc
# [20:01] <nimbupani> ohhh
# [20:01] <nimbupani> hmm i guess its all the more reason to remove respond.js
# [20:02] <nimbupani> and recommend people do mobile first development.
# [20:04] <shichuan> nimbupani: ok, so wat i am thinking is remove respond.js, load css3-mediaqueries.js instead but ONLY on demand
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# [20:04] <shichuan> anyway i list down the points email u and paul, cos i am going to sleep soon, i will come out with a list first
# [20:05] <nimbupani> yeah def shichuan
# [20:05] <nimbupani> hmm i am not sure if css3-mediaqueries would work but we should test it.
# [20:05] <danielfilho> miketaylr: COOL! me avisa, pode ficar em casa se quiser :)
# [20:05] <bot-t> (48 mins 10 secs ago) <miketaylr> tell danielfilho acho q venho a são paulo uns dias antes do brazil.js pra fazer umas entrevistas também!
# [20:05] <miketaylr> ahh legal :)
# [20:06] <shichuan> yea, we can test a few polyfills see which fits the best
# [20:06] <danielfilho> free wifi & city tour included :D
# [20:06] <nimbupani> yeah
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# [20:24] <diamonds> using mediaqueries: does one load a separate stylesheet based on e.g. screen resolution, or put that stuff in one stylesheet somehow?
# [20:25] <nimbupani> diamonds: one stylesheet
# [20:25] <simenbrekken> Any nice complete and updated refence on HTML5 and JS?
# [20:26] <zewt> the spec :)
# [20:26] <diamonds> nimbupani: so... how is this?
# [20:26] <diamonds> ?mediaqueries
# [20:26] <bot-t> diamonds, Media Queries / Dynamic resolution dependent layouts | jQuery Plugins - The script adds basic Media Query-Support (min-width and max-width in px units ) to all browsers ( http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/ ). It helps you to create a dynamic resolution dependent l... http://plugins.jquery.com/project/MediaQueries
# [20:26] <simenbrekken> zewt: nice? :P
# [20:27] <zewt> at least for JS APIs the spec is more useful than most references :P
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# [20:29] <adamnbowen> simenbrekken: I like http://developers.whatwg.org/ and the mozilla developer reference on js
# [20:29] <simenbrekken> adamnbowen: thanks :)
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# [20:32] <diamonds> so @media only screen and (min-device-width: 768px) and (max-device-width: 1024px){body{background:#000}} to make bg black on ipad, for example
# [20:32] <diamonds> I think I get it :)
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# [21:11] <diamonds> so I'm making something for the Ipad that should also work on chrome etc. w/html5
# [21:11] <diamonds> I'd like to just make the content area the same size as the ipad on the browser because... I just think it'll work best
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# [21:12] <diamonds> I'm trying to figure the dimensions of the viewport in ipad, if I hide the url bar...
# [21:12] <diamonds> anyone know this offhand?
# [21:14] <xonecas> window.height and wdth/
# [21:14] <xonecas> ?
# [21:15] <diamonds> xonecas: good idea :)
# [21:15] <xonecas> :-)
# [21:17] <diamonds> undefined... how is this
# [21:17] <diamonds> hrm
# [21:17] <diamonds> window.screen.height :)
# [21:18] <diamonds> is there a way to force landscape orientation on iOS anyone knows of?
# [21:20] <paul_irish> plz pick favorite: http://paulirish.com/i/d311.png
# [21:21] <salazr> um, #FOC
# [21:21] <salazr> *#F0C
# [21:21] <xonecas> $FOC
# [21:21] <diamonds> no hsl? ;)
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# [21:23] <xonecas> ahhh irc looks nicer on a mac
# [21:23] <salazr> doesn't everything?
# [21:24] <diamonds> huh... removing the url bars etc. doesn't change screen.height
# [21:24] <diamonds> must need viewport or something
# [21:25] <xonecas> salazr: most, the command line will always look better in linux imho, that aside yes
# [21:25] <salazr> xonecas: http://www.secretgeometry.com/apps/cathode/
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# [21:36] <xonecas> salazr: ahhh vt100 style B-)
# [21:38] <BrianBlakely> diamonds: no way to force orientation, it's terrible
# [21:39] <diamonds> Maybe I can listen for innerWidth changes and add and overlay asking the user to please turn their ipad horizontal again :)
# [21:39] <salazr> xonecas i only wish it was just a little bit less of a resource hog.. but it's great otherwise
# [21:39] <diamonds> this is a one off concept thing, not a websitey website (I know typically forcing a user to do things is bad)
# [21:40] <diamonds> what was that touch to click script called again? it was being discussed earlier
# [21:40] <diamonds> quicktouch?
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# [21:46] <zewt> not that that was a serious suggestion, but if you really do want to detect the device orientation, look at window.orientation and window.onorientationchange
# [21:46] <zewt> (not 100% sure that's supported on iOS, but I think it is...)
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# [21:48] <croby> anyone in here using jshint in FF4?
# [21:49] <xonecas> bot-t: tell paul_irish he can pull now.
# [21:49] <bot-t> xonecas, Okay.
# [21:49] <xonecas> bot-t is the best :-)
# [21:51] <nimbupani> croby: what happens?
# [21:51] <nimbupani> i am sure antonkovalyov would have :P
# [21:51] <croby> nimbupani: in my for-in statements, "JSHint error on line 103 character 26: this is undefinedundefined" all over the place
# [21:51] <croby> in places that pass in Chrome latest and FF<4
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# [21:54] <croby> its very strange, and i can't seem to find where that condition is executed/tested in the jshint source
# [21:54] <antonkovalyov> croby, can you share the code you're trying?
# [21:54] <croby> antonkovalyov: absoultely - let me pastebin it
# [21:55] <croby> http://pastebin.com/SiGvH4nt
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# [21:59] <croby> antonkovalyov: all the errors are where the loop statement defines the variable -- eg. for (var i=0; i<arr.length; i++)
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# [22:00] <antonkovalyov> croby, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/447925/Screenshots/j1_4fdx52xgi.png
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# [22:00] <tw2113> yay more desktop memory
# [22:00] <antonkovalyov> croby, what settings do you use?
# [22:01] <croby> antonkovalyov: sub:true is our only option (this is using latest jshint from github, running it in one of our qunit tests)
# [22:02] <antonkovalyov> croby, oh maybe i introduced a bug somewhere
# [22:02] <antonkovalyov> let me check
# [22:03] <croby> with regards to that error above, i forgot we're formatting our own errors, the 'reason' in the response is 'this is undefined'
# [22:04] <antonkovalyov> hm, i just checked kicakky with the latest jshint and it worked
# [22:05] <croby> hmm
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# [22:12] <croby> antonkovalyov: http://jsfiddle.net/ZSYgm/1/
# [22:13] <croby> and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20830/Screen%20shot%202011-03-24%20at%202.09.05%20PM.png
# [22:13] <antonkovalyov> waaait, jsfiddle has jshint support?
# [22:13] <antonkovalyov> sweet
# [22:13] <croby> you can add in a library
# [22:13] <croby> i just gave it the raw url to the github hosted jshint
# [22:15] <antonkovalyov> kk
# [22:15] <antonkovalyov> fuck, my firebug is not working
# [22:16] <croby> gotta get that 1.7 for FF4
# [22:16] <antonkovalyov> ok, i can reproduce it
# [22:16] <antonkovalyov> lemme check what may have caused it
# [22:16] <croby> phew
# [22:23] <antonkovalyov> did fx4 add support for strict mode?
# [22:23] <antonkovalyov> this is what causing an issue
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# [22:24] <croby> antonkovalyov: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript/New_in_JavaScript/1.8.5
# [22:24] <croby> yes, it did
# [22:24] <antonkovalyov> meh
# [22:24] <antonkovalyov> croby, gonna fix it real quick
# [22:25] <croby> antonkovalyov: awesome, thank you!
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# [22:25] <antonkovalyov> fucking crockford
# [22:25] <croby> :)
# [22:25] <antonkovalyov> global try/catch with result silenced
# [22:25] <antonkovalyov> that's why it is pushing its own errors to the .errors
# [22:26] <zachleat> Don't talk shit about crockford, or he'll noscript you :D
# [22:29] <tw2113> just bring it
# [22:29] <antonkovalyov> fuck me
# [22:29] <antonkovalyov> jslint is leaking stuff into global space
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# [22:37] <antonkovalyov> croby, ok quick fix is pushed. i will work on the real fix later when i have more time
# [22:37] <croby> antonkovalyov: great, on master?
# [22:37] <antonkovalyov> yeah
# [22:37] <antonkovalyov> i just disabled strict-mode for now
# [22:37] <croby> got it, thank you!
# [22:37] <antonkovalyov> crock uses `this` where he shouldn't and it leaks stuff to global scope
# [22:38] <croby> sounds like an awesome problem to start to debug..
# [22:38] <antonkovalyov> and since fx4 actually implemented strict-mode, it breaks on the incorrect usage of `this`
# [22:38] <antonkovalyov> i am tempted to send a copy of js: the good parts to him
# [22:39] <xonecas> antonkovalyov: ahahahahahahahahahaha
# [22:39] <croby> antonkovalyov: fix confirmed, unit tests back to passing
# [22:40] <antonkovalyov> croby, sweet
# [22:40] <xonecas> you should dish it out to him on some mailing list like he does to other developers
# [22:40] <antonkovalyov> fuck that
# [22:40] <antonkovalyov> i will prob go to his talk soon :)
# [22:40] <xonecas> :O
# [22:41] <xonecas> Does he likes
# [22:41] <xonecas> you ?
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# [22:41] <xonecas> after you cloned his lint?
# [22:41] <antonkovalyov> dunno if he knows about my existence
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# [22:44] <antonkovalyov> BrianBlakely, welcome to the meetup group :)
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# [23:01] <BrianBlakely> Is Chromium/Mac supposed to have HWA turned on?
# [23:01] <BrianBlakely> antonkovalyov: Thank you! :)
# [23:01] <xonecas> https://github.com/polvero/qwery/blob/master/src/qwery.js Dustin used the !function and not (function () {})(); :-o
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# [23:01] <xonecas> BrianBlakely: about:labs to turn on I think
# [23:02] <BrianBlakely> xonecas: I about:flags, probably. I sifted through it
# [23:02] <BrianBlakely> I only mention it because Chrome sucks at graphics
# [23:02] <BrianBlakely> I'm getting 60fps in Safari @ 1080p, but like 8fps in Chromium
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# [23:04] <BrianBlakely> I'm sure V8 is blasting through my barely-there JS codebase, but it's completely choking on CSS animation
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# [23:08] <xonecas> BrianBlakely: every browser has its up and downs :-)
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# [23:15] <zewt> but didn't CSS animations originate in WebKit? heh
# [23:16] <zewt> be odd for Chrome to suck at them
# [23:16] <zewt> (i generally only use them for touchscreen feedback and not desktop, so I don't know)
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# [23:31] <BrianBlakely> zewt: It's unbelievable how well Safari handles Animation+Transform, and how poorly every other browser does
# [23:31] <BrianBlakely> Visit bit.ly/oswich in Chrome, then Safari, then Chrome again
# [23:31] <BrianBlakely> It will blow your wig off
# [23:33] <digitalfiz> that isnt even usable for me in chrome
# [23:33] <digitalfiz> i dont have safari though :/
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# [23:35] <BrianBlakely> digitalfiz: Not even usable? Are you running Chrome stable?
# [23:35] <digitalfiz> chrome beta
# [23:35] <digitalfiz> 11.0.696.16 beta
# [23:35] <BrianBlakely> Ah, yeah. For some reason it's 1-2fps in the non-stable builds
# [23:36] <BrianBlakely> But it runs fine in stable (when not compared to Safari)
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# [23:38] <BrianBlakely> If Chrome gives me the DAP spec and great graphics, I'll never ask for anything again, because it will be perfect
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# [23:41] <BrianBlakely> Even WebGL-2D runs at a higher framerate in FF4 than Chr10
# [23:41] <BrianBlakely> http://weare.buildingsky.net/webgl-2d/example.html
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# [23:45] <meosweetmeo> hello, why cloned elements dont get canvas?
# [23:45] <BrianBlakely> Another site, tweeted by paul_irish I presume, runs beautifully in Safari and FF4, not so much in Chrome: http://www.demodern.de/#/studio/
# [23:45] <meosweetmeo> iknowyouwantme.ru/svfu/index.html
# [23:46] <paul_irish> compositing is hard.
# [23:46] <meosweetmeo> two first photos are generated dynamycalli via .clone()
# [23:46] <meosweetmeo> but canvas script runs after .clone()
# [23:47] <meosweetmeo> and somehow sometimes it works without any reason, just pulling the refresh button
# [23:47] <meosweetmeo> and yeah it bugs only in webkit
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# [23:50] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish please developer-relate this HWA testcase to the guys compositing the webs: http://analogysoft.com/things/tinyfins/
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# [23:53] <paul_irish> BrianBlakely: nice test case
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# [23:54] <paul_irish> can you file a ticket? new.crbug.com
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# [23:54] <BrianBlakely> paul_irish: Already have it open, but I'm not sure what to call it
# [23:54] <meosweetmeo> paul_irish can u suggest some possible way of solution?
# [23:54] <paul_irish> Poor composting performance on 2D canvas
# [23:54] <paul_irish> or whatever itis
# [23:55] <paul_irish> meosweetmeo: can you put this online?
# [23:55] <meosweetmeo> yes i have given the link
# [23:55] <meosweetmeo> iknowyouwantme.ru/svfu/index.html
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# [23:55] <meosweetmeo> first two image in the left are generated dynamycallu
# [23:55] <meosweetmeo> (.gb-fake)
# [23:55] <meosweetmeo> and in webkit they do not saturate
# [23:56] <meosweetmeo> saturation is goin with ImageData and described in the bottom of logic.js
# [23:56] <meosweetmeo> desaturate, i mean
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# [23:56] <meosweetmeo> and in some cases, just randomly pressing "refresh", they do appear in chrome
# [23:56] <meosweetmeo> i cant catch the condition of its appearing
# [23:57] <paul_irish> its throwing on this line
# [23:57] <paul_irish> for (var i = 0, n = pix.length; i < n; i += 4) {
# [23:57] <meosweetmeo> i think my way of canvas initializaton is full of crap but i have very luck of time
# [23:57] <meosweetmeo> lack
# [23:58] <meosweetmeo> but other images are painted well
# [23:58] <meosweetmeo> always
# [23:58] <meosweetmeo> the problem is only in these two
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