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  1. # Session Start: Sat Mar 26 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html5
  3. # [00:00] <BrianBlakely> I don't expect the smartphones to always report a resolution of 320x480 - it's just a stopgap
  4. # [00:00] <nimbupani> a device pixel value does not change per device.
  5. # [00:00] <BrianBlakely> Wait, what?
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  7. # [00:01] <BrianBlakely> Please explain
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  9. # [00:02] <BrianBlakely> Oh, no, I see what you mean
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  11. # [00:03] <nimbupani> yeah its pretty confusing but a device pixel is static (for the same resolution) while a css pixel is not http://www.quirksmode.org/mobile/viewports2.html
  12. # [00:04] <BrianBlakely> I understand that, but I'm having trouble seeing how Media Queries could possibly allow you to differentiate a layout for two different-sized devices with the same exact resolution
  13. # [00:06] <BrianBlakely> I have ready everything you've linked to in-depth :D
  14. # [00:06] <BrianBlakely> This is something I've been trying to figure out for a while, but I've come to the conclusion that there's a real hard-stop limitation here
  15. # [00:06] <nimbupani> coz resolution determines the width and height :|
  16. # [00:06] <BrianBlakely> No, that's the thing!
  17. # [00:06] <nimbupani> so if its a HUGE ass screen
  18. # [00:06] <BrianBlakely> Consider an enormous screen with a 320x480 resolution
  19. # [00:07] <BrianBlakely> You don't want to give it a mobile UI
  20. # [00:07] <BrianBlakely> But it would still get one
  21. # [00:07] <nimbupani> wait ur idea of resolution is radically different from my idea of resolution
  22. # [00:07] <BrianBlakely> Resolution = pixels w by h
  23. # [00:07] <nimbupani> no
  24. # [00:07] <nimbupani> its dots per inch
  25. # [00:07] <nimbupani> http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-mediaqueries/#resolution
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  27. # [00:08] <BrianBlakely> But dpi isn't reliable
  28. # [00:08] <BrianBlakely> According to desktop browsers, your screen is probably 96dpi
  29. # [00:08] <BrianBlakely> But that's totally not true
  30. # [00:08] <zewt> many desktop OS's don't even reliably know the DPI. heh
  31. # [00:08] <zewt> (never mind browsers running on top of them)
  32. # [00:08] <nimbupani> no desktops dont know DPI at all, which is why fonts are smaller when u are on a large resolution computer
  33. # [00:09] <nimbupani> monitor even
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  35. # [00:09] <zewt> some do, and I think EDID has DPI information, it's not just reliably present
  36. # [00:09] <BrianBlakely> Right, so they should provide the real DPI
  37. # [00:09] <zewt> they should provide it if they know it, yes
  38. # [00:09] <BrianBlakely> I think even the iPhone 4 pings 96px/inch
  39. # [00:10] <BrianBlakely> But that's famously not the case
  40. # [00:10] <nimbupani> iphone retina display screwed everything in my view
  41. # [00:10] <zewt> retina is obviously just a big hack that happens to make most things work
  42. # [00:10] <nimbupani> they deliberately provide older device-width and scale everything up
  43. # [00:10] <nimbupani> which is great for everything but graphics
  44. # [00:10] <zewt> what's really annoying about retina is how it's next to impossible to get the real dimensions, even in a browser-specific way
  45. # [00:11] <BrianBlakely> If you do this: div { width: 1in; } you will probably end up with a DIV that isn't 1 physical inch
  46. # [00:11] <zewt> eg. if they're going to use a big weird hack and can't be convinced otherwise, then they should at least give the real info in a custom API for when people really do need it
  47. # [00:11] <BrianBlakely> Relative pixels are fine, relative inches and centimeters is crazy
  48. # [00:11] <nimbupani> naw inches and cms dont work
  49. # [00:11] <nimbupani> abs not
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  51. # [00:11] <nimbupani> i dont even know why they should
  52. # [00:11] <zewt> BrianBlakely: of course, mobile viewports make inch/dpi measurements even stranger, heh
  53. # [00:12] <BrianBlakely> Not for measuring elements, but for Media Queries they'd be great
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  55. # [00:12] <zewt> nimbupani: sure they should (other than the aforementioned mobile viewport thing)
  56. # [00:12] <BrianBlakely> Like max-device-width: 3in
  57. # [00:12] <zewt> but sort of a lost cause
  58. # [00:12] <nimbupani> what would inches accomplish?
  59. # [00:12] <BrianBlakely> That would rock, if only 1in in CSS = 1in in reality
  60. # [00:12] <nimbupani> well it should technically be device pixels
  61. # [00:12] <BrianBlakely> nimbupani: It would allow you to change the layout based on the real-world size of the device :D
  62. # [00:13] <zewt> measuring areas in actual display inches (converted to pixels according to the dpi)
  63. # [00:13] <nimbupani> yeah BrianBlakely but its already established that there is no clear way of converting pixels to inches. :///
  64. # [00:13] <zewt> no it's not, it's completely straightforward on desktop browsers
  65. # [00:14] <nimbupani> but thats not real inch anyway
  66. # [00:14] <zewt> as long as your OS is behaving (which it may or may not be, in practice)
  67. # [00:14] <nimbupani> precisely
  68. # [00:14] <BrianBlakely> nimbupani: Are you sure the OS doesn't even know how big the device is?
  69. # [00:14] <zewt> but that's just a bug to fix/work around, not an inherent problem
  70. # [00:14] <BrianBlakely> I honestly have no idea
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  73. # [00:14] <nimbupani> oops
  74. # [00:15] <zewt> windows certainly knows the physical dimensions of my monitor; in the multimonitor setup, for example, it shows each monitor and its relative size to each other
  75. # [00:15] <zewt> but it doesn't know that *all* the time--depends on the monitor, probably on EDID, etc
  76. # [00:15] <BrianBlakely> Anyway, do you guys think it would be GOOD if we could learn and target the physical dimensions of the display?
  77. # [00:16] <zewt> i always think it would be good if we can have more information about the user's environment, i don't think this one will ever be fixed though
  78. # [00:16] <BrianBlakely> zewt: So naysaying :/
  79. # [00:16] <zewt> no, it's called realism
  80. # [00:16] <BrianBlakely> zewt: You said yourself Windows knows the dimensions of your monitor
  81. # [00:17] <BrianBlakely> OS X probably does
  82. # [00:17] <zewt> maybe some day people will care enough about DPI to nag vendors to fix it, but good luck, heh
  83. # [00:17] <BrianBlakely> Boom, you've covered most everyone
  84. # [00:17] <BrianBlakely> I'd be surprised if iOS/Android devices didn't report their display size to the OS
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  86. # [00:18] <zewt> dpi doesn't really make sense on mobile browsers at all, unless you disable zooming (which only makes sense in certain scenarios and not in general)
  87. # [00:18] <BrianBlakely> zewt: It makes sense when high-res mobiles start getting desktop versions of Media Queries because they suddenly qualify
  88. # [00:18] <zewt> that is, the DPI of the document applied to CSS measurements--it'd be nice if it would at least expose it as a window property to query
  89. # [00:19] <BrianBlakely> zewt: That's in my proposal: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57065
  90. # [00:19] <BrianBlakely> "Second Resolution"
  91. # [00:19] <zewt> what happens if you say width: 1in, and the user zooms in? the document's DPI literally changes, and you don't want to reflow because of that
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  93. # [00:20] <BrianBlakely> zewt: 1in would only be 1 real inch at scale 1.0
  94. # [00:20] <BrianBlakely> When you zoom in, you purposefully want things to be bigger than normal
  95. # [00:20] <zewt> i wonder what windows APIs there are that could query the DPI
  96. # [00:20] <BrianBlakely> You don't want the page to reflow
  97. # [00:20] <zewt> the most obvious DPI probably just returns the font DPI, which has nothing to do with the screen
  98. # [00:21] <zewt> er
  99. # [00:21] <zewt> most obvious API
  100. # [00:21] <BrianBlakely> Yep
  101. # [00:21] <zewt> accursed abbreviations
  102. # [00:21] <BrianBlakely> That's the DPI that CSS uses on most desktops
  103. # [00:21] <BrianBlakely> 96
  104. # [00:22] <BrianBlakely> nimbupani: Would it be possible to ask the browser engineers you work with whether this is technically feasible at the OS level?
  105. # [00:23] <nimbupani> BrianBlakely: i am not even sure what I should be asking for >_>
  106. # [00:23] <BrianBlakely> "Can Windows/OS X serve the physical dimensions of the monitor?" "What about iOS/Android?"
  107. # [00:24] <zewt> BrianBlakely: webkit (or at least Chrome) always uses 96, regardless of the font DPI, FYI
  108. # [00:24] <BrianBlakely> zewt: That's straight-up whack
  109. # [00:24] <nimbupani> all browsers do AFAIK
  110. # [00:24] <zewt> (mine is 120 and a 1in div gives an offsetWidth of 96)
  111. # [00:25] <BrianBlakely> Heh, why even implement that unit then?
  112. # [00:25] <zewt> BrianBlakely: using 96 isn't really any more whack than using 120; they're both equally wrong
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  114. # [00:25] <BrianBlakely> True, but it's not even related to anything
  115. # [00:25] <BrianBlakely> It's arbitrary
  116. # [00:26] <BrianBlakely> heh
  117. # [00:26] <zewt> i'd say using some random font setting as the DPI is equally random
  118. # [00:26] <BrianBlakely> It's useless, that's for certain
  119. # [00:26] <zewt> (the real DPI of my monitor is 80, I think)
  120. # [00:27] <zewt> also, it's probably not entirely arbitrary; it's the value most systems have, so in the absense of a correct answer, they give a consistent one
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  122. # [00:28] <BrianBlakely> If the DPI delivered were an actual DPI, life would be grand, but we haven't had the problem of many different kinds of devices for very long
  123. # [00:28] <BrianBlakely> So vendors have gotten away with neglecting that aspect of their platforms
  124. # [00:29] <BrianBlakely> All vendors are out-of-spec
  125. # [00:29] <BrianBlakely> http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-values/#absolute0
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  127. # [00:30] <BrianBlakely> Even here: "In cases where the specified length cannot be supported, user agents must approximate it in the actual value."
  128. # [00:30] <BrianBlakely> If they always report 96, that's hardly an approximation
  129. # [00:30] <BrianBlakely> Might as well choose 2e16
  130. # [00:32] <JNZ> 2e16 is the best
  131. # [00:32] <BrianBlakely> Math.PI is pretty good too :P
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  133. # [00:35] <BrianBlakely> Hopefully this helps get it across to the C++ folks: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57065#c3
  134. # [00:37] <BrianBlakely> nimbupani, zewt, pleasure speaking to you both about this… I must be off, I'm late (but it was difficult to abandon this discussion early :) )
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  136. # [00:37] <BrianBlakely> Have a lovely weekend!
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  138. # [00:38] <nimbupani> bye!
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  144. # [01:01] <nbari> hi all I am trying to aling an input type text horizontally but when using the <!DOCTYPE html> the page do not respect the padding-right: here is an example: http://nbari.sign.io/5.html
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  146. # [01:01] <nbari> and removing the <!DOCTYPE html> the page correcltly aligns http://nbari.sign.io/n.html
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  148. # [01:02] <nbari> any idea of how to properly align left/right with 100% an input type text ?
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  207. # [03:01] <andrewjbaker> Hi all... it's been a while since I stepped into this channel.
  208. # [03:05] <andrewjbaker> Things are progressing bit by bit w/ my HTML5 canvas 2.5D landscape renderer... and when I can bring myself to stop working on it, you can all /hopefully/ start doing some funky stuff w/ it.
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  215. # [03:48] <moshee> maybe I'm thinking too hard, or maybe just slow
  216. # [03:48] <moshee> how do I trigger a requestAnimationFrame every frame
  217. # [03:48] <moshee> without making the handle ID go up every frame
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  229. # [04:43] <themiddleman> Anyone working on a js1k submission? I am!
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  233. # [04:53] <moshee> I'm too noob for code golf :(
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  235. # [04:56] <tw2113> keep coding to un-noobify yourself
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  237. # [05:01] <moshee> yes
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  251. # [06:20] <TheEmpath> omfghai
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  257. # [06:28] <themiddleman> http://middlerob.com/8bit/ got a new feature! http://middlerob.com/8bit/#6 cc tw2113
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  259. # [06:29] <tw2113> yays! I can haz bitmap skeelz
  260. # [06:30] <tw2113> eat yo heart out ms paint
  261. # [06:30] <themiddleman> Its like mspaint only a bunch of them!
  262. # [06:31] <tw2113> you have a link to github but this one isn't on there?
  263. # [06:32] <themiddleman> tw2113: yeah, ironic, :D Ive been meaning to put it on there, I will now
  264. # [06:32] <tw2113> glad i could inspire
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  267. # [06:37] <themiddleman> tw2113: f5 for teh githubz
  268. # [06:38] <tw2113> w00000000's
  269. # [06:38] <tw2113> you need a follower
  270. # [06:40] <themiddleman> oh thanks, so do you, but wait if I am following you and youre follo... *BOOOOOOMMMMMM*
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  275. # [06:43] <tw2113> go boo
  276. # [06:43] <tw2113> boom*
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  278. # [06:44] <TheEmpath> is there anyway to get how much "memory" a variable uses in javascript?
  279. # [06:46] <tw2113> telepathy? i dunno
  280. # [06:47] <tw2113> i'm just a bit talkative
  281. # [06:47] <themiddleman> apparently not because I cant... remember...?
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  289. # [07:19] <unomi> Hi, I did some searching and it appeared that opera does not support drag to upload functionality at all, by any means or fallbacks, does that sound right?
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  317. # [09:28] <jetienne> moshee: http://paulirish.com/2011/requestanimationframe-for-smart-animating/ and http://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/requestanimationframe-implementation
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  360. # [10:30] <jetienne> canvas api is crying to be chained and to get basic drawing like circle or elipse
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  363. # [10:39] <jquerier> hello world :)
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  387. # [11:44] <gancient> hi all, i am trying to rotate an image inside a canvas by 90degrees, but everytime i rotate, the image i think goes out of the canvas visual area. any suggestions.
  388. # [11:45] <gancient> I checked out a stack overflow thread and it mentioned that the image needs to be translated, but i could not grasp why ?
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  392. # [11:49] <robhawkes> Hi gancient: Rotation in canvas actually rotates the 2d rendering contect within the canvas, not the shape that you're trying to draw.
  393. # [11:49] <robhawkes> Let me grab you a quick illustration :)
  394. # [11:49] <gancient> robhawkes: ok
  395. # [11:50] <robhawkes> At the most basic level, this is what the canvas (2d rendering context) coordinate space looks like: http://cl.ly/5Xit
  396. # [11:50] <robhawkes> That's without any transformations, etc
  397. # [11:51] <robhawkes> When you rotate the canvas, it looks like this: http://cl.ly/5Y5h
  398. # [11:52] <robhawkes> So, imagine you drew a rectangle where the Y arrow is on the first image. When you rotate the canvas it would be drawn where the Y arrow is on the second image – outside of the visible canvas.
  399. # [11:52] <robhawkes> Does that make sense? (Will explain the fix once it does)
  400. # [11:52] <gancient> robhawkes: just a moment. reading.
  401. # [11:53] <robhawkes> Take your time :)
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  403. # [11:54] <gancient> robhawkes: i understand now :)
  404. # [11:54] <robhawkes> Ok, so to fix that you need to translate the canvas *before* you draw your image
  405. # [11:55] <robhawkes> Translate just moves the (0, 0) point of the canvas, like so: http://cl.ly/5Xjo
  406. # [11:55] <robhawkes> You translate the canvas to the center of where you want to draw your image
  407. # [11:55] <robhawkes> Then rotate 90 degrees
  408. # [11:56] <robhawkes> Then draw the image with a minus (x, y) that is half the image width and height so that it appears in the center of the rotation
  409. # [11:56] <robhawkes> Sounds a bit crazy, but it works :)
  410. # [11:56] <gancient> robhawkes: i should translate to the point about which i want to rotate ?
  411. # [11:56] <robhawkes> Yes, exactly that
  412. # [11:57] <gancient> robhawkes: ok
  413. # [11:57] <robhawkes> Let me know if that works out for you
  414. # [11:58] <gancient> robhawkes: trying to understand the minus(x,y) part.
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  416. # [11:59] <robhawkes> Ok, that's cool (it's the weird part).
  417. # [11:59] <robhawkes> Basically, see that last image I posted?
  418. # [11:59] <robhawkes> When you translate, the (0, 0) point on the canvas (the origin) moves to the point that you translated to
  419. # [11:59] <robhawkes> So if you then drew a rectangle at the position (0, 0), it would appear at the translated position, not the top left like it would have before
  420. # [12:00] <robhawkes> Does that make sense?
  421. # [12:02] <gancient> robhawkes: so if i drew the rectangle without the minus(x,y) it would appear translated and rotated about the center, but the translated image would not be aligned with the canvas right ?
  422. # [12:02] <robhawkes> If you drew it without the minus (x, y), the top left of the image would be at the point of rotation
  423. # [12:02] <robhawkes> Which would look a little odd
  424. # [12:03] <robhawkes> So the minus just drags it back half way on the (x, y) to put it on the center of the point of rotation
  425. # [12:03] <gancient> robhawkes: i understand now.
  426. # [12:03] <robhawkes> Excellent :)
  427. # [12:04] <gancient> robhawkes: just hang around for a while, i want to try it out with some arbitrary angles. hope you don't mind.
  428. # [12:04] <robhawkes> Go for it
  429. # [12:04] <robhawkes> If you want to learn in more detail, I wrote an entire book on learning canvas from back to front: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1430232919/
  430. # [12:04] <robhawkes> :)
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  432. # [12:05] <robhawkes> All of this kind of stuff is covered
  433. # [12:05] <robhawkes> (that's where those images came from)
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  435. # [12:06] <gancient> robhawkes: cool ! will check out the book.
  436. # [12:07] <robhawkes> It's not a general advertisement, I just think you might find it useful :)
  437. # [12:07] <gancient> robhawkes: ok
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  444. # [12:15] <gancient> robhawkes: this is what i am doing, https://gist.github.com/360372c411d16707a30d , and it doesn't seem to rotate :(
  445. # [12:17] <robhawkes> What happens?
  446. # [12:18] <gancient> robhawkes: i first draw the image, and then translate, rotate, and then draw again, i don't see the rotated image.
  447. # [12:19] <robhawkes> Ok firstly: Are you seeing the width and height of the canvas? There is nothing on the canvas element. If so, what are the dimensions?
  448. # [12:20] <robhawkes> Secondly: Remove the first drawImage call, as that might be complicating things for now (I imagine you don't want to draw the image twice, right?)
  449. # [12:20] <gancient> robhawkes: yes, i just want to rotate the image
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  451. # [12:21] <robhawkes> I see where you're setting the width and height now, but take the first drawImage out and let me know what you see
  452. # [12:21] <gancient> robhawkes: ok
  453. # [12:24] <gancient> robhawkes: i get the rotated image now (the problem was with the angle of rotation :P ) , but the image gets clipped at the canvas borders.
  454. # [12:25] <robhawkes> That's good news (kind of). It will be clipped at the edges because the canvas is set to the dimensions of the (presumably) landscape image
  455. # [12:25] <robhawkes> You'll need to change the drawImage call to resize the image using the aspect ratio you calculated before
  456. # [12:28] <gancient> robhawkes: ok.
  457. # [12:28] <robhawkes> Either that or swap the width and height of the canvas when you set it after loading the image
  458. # [12:29] <robhawkes> It depends if you're always going to be rotating the image
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  460. # [12:30] <gancient> robhawkes: but the swapping trick will not work in case the rotation is at an arbitrary angle, would it ?
  461. # [12:30] <robhawkes> No
  462. # [12:31] <robhawkes> And neither will the aspect ratio trick either
  463. # [12:31] <robhawkes> If it's at like 45 degrees, you'll either need to make the canvas necessarily big to accommodate any rotation (make sure the width and height is no smaller than the diagonal of the image), or do some crazy calculations
  464. # [12:31] <gancient> robhawkes: :( , how would it work , when the angle of rotation is say 33 degrees ?
  465. # [12:32] <gancient> robhawkes: oh , ok
  466. # [12:32] <robhawkes> Is that workable for your project?
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  468. # [12:32] <robhawkes> You'll have a bit of padding around the image most times, but it would be easiest
  469. # [12:33] <gancient> robhawkes: yes, i just wanted to rotate the image. thanks !
  470. # [12:33] <robhawkes> No probs, glad I could help :)
  471. # [12:33] <robhawkes> Good luck with it! :)
  472. # [12:33] <gancient> robhawkes: thanks :)
  473. # [12:34] <gancient> robhawkes: by the way, does jquery or other js library provide convenience functions to do the above ?
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  476. # [12:36] <robhawkes> Not built in, but I'm sure there are plugins around. Actually, I came across this yesterday but haven't had a chance to play with it
  477. # [12:36] <robhawkes> http://ocanvas.org/
  478. # [12:36] <robhawkes> This is the doc page on easy rotations: http://ocanvas.org/docs/Display-Objects/Base/rotate
  479. # [12:37] <robhawkes> (Notice how they set an "origin" to the center, which is for the rotation)
  480. # [12:37] <gancient> robhawkes: ok
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  501. # [13:27] <gancient> robhawkes: thanks again for the help :)
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  549. # [15:44] <Juo> when using HandBrake to encode video it seems to only display if i use iPhone & iPod Touch preset, however i want to use the High Profile present, im not really sure why its not working. When i drag the video into safari it plays no problems but as soon as I try and play the video embedded on a webpage I have issues
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  557. # [16:01] <vyvea> Hello, http://paste.org/pastebin/view/30801 why i am get error - init: Setting this.canvas_id to canvas , begin: Getting element with ID canvas , canvas , begin: Set this.canvas null , Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getContext' of null maybe anyone undestand how to fix this? :-)
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  562. # [16:18] <humph> vyvea: it would mean that there is no canvas with id this.canvas_id in your document
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  594. # [17:43] <shichuan> paul_irish: hey man, things are almost done, once they are all cleaned up, is it you or divya help with the upload and tweet?
  595. # [17:46] <paul_irish> either one of us i suppose
  596. # [17:47] <paul_irish> hmm github is not responding to my pulls :(
  597. # [17:50] <shichuan> i havent pushed the files
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  605. # [18:29] <grumpytoad> something to crash your browser ;) http://bit.ly/eIikQw
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  610. # [18:38] <mgj> grumpytoad, not sure why i clicked that link, but im disappointed. Browser did not crash :P
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  614. # [18:48] <grumpytoad> mgj: haha.. i sometimes get criticisms from firefox 3.6 users
  615. # [18:48] <mgj> =)
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  666. # [21:00] <xonecas> o/
  667. # [21:00] <bot-t> (3 hours 50 mins ago) <niftylettuce> tell xonecas hey its nifty, lmk where you're at
  668. # [21:00] <bot-t> (3 hours 50 mins ago) <niftylettuce> tell xonecas hey its nifty, lmk where you're at
  669. # [21:01] <xonecas> Because calling my phone/text me/email me/gchat me wasn't enough! :-)
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  676. # [21:15] <tw2113> it's not invasive enough xonecas
  677. # [21:17] <xonecas> tw2113: no, I need to give him my house number, and snail mail too
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  679. # [21:18] <tw2113> :P
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  726. # [23:14] <niftylettuce> \o greets!
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  738. # [23:37] <grantg> heh
  739. # [23:38] <grantg> DAE think that netbeans IDE hiding the window property options you really want is meh?
  740. # [23:38] <grantg> damn scrolled past the opaque options too many times. <_<
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  742. # [23:39] <grantg> humph: I'm making a Java app version of my stuff as well. :)
  743. # [23:40] <grantg> not just iOS (c++, obj-c version)
  744. # [23:40] <grantg> just to mess around with java more
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  750. # [23:54] <grantg> tw2113: I think you requested metroid
  751. # [23:54] <grantg> http://www.grantgalitz.org/metroid2/
  752. # [23:54] <tw2113> :D
  753. # [23:54] <bot-t> (40 mins 0 sec ago) <niftylettuce> tell tw2113 hey lets chat.
  754. # [23:54] <niftylettuce> tw2113, hey man
  755. # [23:55] <niftylettuce> tw2113, we should chat about something
  756. # [23:55] <tw2113> yo
  757. # [23:55] <niftylettuce> tw2113, you got GChat?
  758. # [23:55] <grantg> niftylettuce: I didn't see you here.
  759. # [23:55] <tw2113> ya
  760. # [23:55] <tw2113> tw2113@gmail.com
  761. # [23:55] <niftylettuce> grantg: I'm sneaky
  762. # [23:55] <grantg> Do you still need me to help with something?
  763. # [23:55] <niftylettuce> grantg, I want to get funding first I think
  764. # [23:55] <grantg> k
  765. # [23:55] <niftylettuce> grantg, and a nice place to work on this
  766. # [23:55] <grantg> true
  767. # [23:56] <niftylettuce> grantg, working next to my bed isn't the best environment, I often fall asleep while working which isnt nifty
  768. # [23:56] <grantg> :/
  769. # [23:56] <niftylettuce> grantg, i mean, i prop my feet up, and get too relaxed
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