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  1. # Session Start: Mon Mar 28 00:00:00 2011
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  6. # [00:04] <authorblues> Is there a standard way to turn off ALL wordwrapping on a <textarea>?
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  17. # [00:30] <matt729> is there anyway to get FileReader's onload event to fire when invoked from localhost or just a static file in the browser? (I'm using Chrome 10.0.648.204 on OSX)
  18. # [00:33] <matt729> nm, it does work from a local server, just not a file opened locally. thanks!
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  35. # [01:28] <paul_irish> http://gent.ilcore.com/2011/03/how-not-to-trigger-layout-in-webkit.html
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  51. # [02:12] <grantg> tw2113: I find is amusing when I make a rage comic it gets 4 upvotes.
  52. # [02:13] <grantg> But someone else who reuses my rage comic and reposts it to another subreddit gets like 25 upvotes
  53. # [02:13] <grantg> http://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/gcmyh/a_comic_about_how_it_took_more_than_10_years_for/
  54. # [02:13] <grantg> versus http://www.reddit.com/r/html5/comments/gc78o/xhtml/
  55. # [02:13] <grantg> :/
  56. # [02:14] <tw2113> i saw that
  57. # [02:14] <grantg> heh
  58. # [02:14] <tw2113> sometimes it's a matter of the subreddit
  59. # [02:14] <grantg> I guess it's true
  60. # [02:14] <grantg> reposters sometimes get 10x the votes
  61. # [02:14] <grantg> and
  62. # [02:14] <grantg> TL;DR hipsters do application/xhtml+xml
  63. # [02:14] <grantg> :P
  64. # [02:15] <grantg> XHTML now is just HTML5 parsed as XML
  65. # [02:15] <grantg> proof is my emulator in JS
  66. # [02:15] <grantg> since it does canvas
  67. # [02:15] <grantg> and it's application/xhtml+xml
  68. # [02:16] <grantg> and outputted as XML
  69. # [02:16] <grantg> XHTML5 lol
  70. # [02:16] <grantg> or HTML5 parsed as XML as it should be known really
  71. # [02:16] <tw2113> aye, it's hard to find some good people to follow on identi.ca and it seems like most of the users are european(not that there's anything wrong with that)
  72. # [02:17] <paul_irish> this is pretty cool. two guys helping eachother out with the h5bp build script and one of them makes a screencast to illustrate his issue. https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/pull/394#issuecomment-923947
  73. # [02:17] <grantg> what is identi.ca?
  74. # [02:17] <grantg> never heard of it
  75. # [02:17] <grantg> must be a hipster site
  76. # [02:17] <tw2113> think open source twitter
  77. # [02:17] <grantg> heh
  78. # [02:17] <grantg> not another twitter
  79. # [02:17] <grantg> I gave up on twitter
  80. # [02:18] <tw2113> you probably wouldn't like it then
  81. # [02:18] <grantg> paul_irish: I just hope another boilerplate person doesn't link to w3schools. <_<
  82. # [02:19] <paul_irish> ill make sure they dont
  83. # [02:21] <grantg> paul_irish: Did you see http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=77559
  84. # [02:21] <grantg> chrome made be sad again. :/
  85. # [02:22] <paul_irish> i did
  86. # [02:22] <grantg> Basically JavaScript performance worse after function inlining
  87. # [02:22] <grantg> when it shouldn't
  88. # [02:22] <paul_irish> you have a tendency to post issues with very non-reduced test cases
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  90. # [02:22] <paul_irish> but .. they're useful still :)
  91. # [02:22] <grantg> paul_irish: Kind of meh to reduce CPU emulation in JS to a small test case
  92. # [02:23] <paul_irish> its true
  93. # [02:23] <grantg> this involves the memory subsystem in it though
  94. # [02:24] <grantg> with inlining the statements that call to the function in the memory array
  95. # [02:24] <grantg> By inlining a "proxy" function
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  97. # [02:29] <grantg> I reverted the function in array to switch change
  98. # [02:29] <grantg> Since chrome just became too shitty
  99. # [02:30] <grantg> 100% CPU load even in the best case scenarios.
  100. # [02:30] <grantg> like chrome just optimizes the wrong thing
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  195. # [09:24] <danbeam> anybody know why :contains() was removed from the CSS3 spec?
  196. # [09:27] <danbeam> http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#content-selectors
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  313. # [16:04] <diamonds> http://screencast.com/t/26IVjcdsB2SZ << updatetime event stops firing in chromium at 101 seconds :/
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  341. # [17:06] <diamonds> my undies are officially in a bunch
  342. # [17:06] <diamonds> I can't believe chromium doesn't have working support for the audio timeupdate event
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  345. # [17:07] <diamonds> I have to rejigger a bunch of shit now... I assumed chrome and ff were ready to go with this basic html5 stuff! >:(
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  355. # [17:16] <JoshManders> You'll be ok diamonds
  356. # [17:17] <diamonds> chromium ppl want me to file a bug
  357. # [17:17] <JoshManders> So do it.
  358. # [17:17] <diamonds> well I'm seeing if I can reproduce on jsfiddle, if not I won't bother
  359. # [17:17] <JoshManders> Alright.
  360. # [17:18] <diamonds> the thing about bugs is....
  361. # [17:18] <diamonds> if your goal is fixing the browser, of course file a bug. But if your goal is fixing *your website* ... filing a bug is hard to justify to project managers
  362. # [17:19] <JoshManders> True
  363. # [17:19] <diamonds> "Had to spend an hour reproducing and documenting a browser bug, creating an account etc. etc."
  364. # [17:19] <diamonds> they are like "wat. DO NOT DO THAT!"
  365. # [17:21] <JoshManders> :S
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  367. # [17:22] <miketaylr> just ask them why they hate the web
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  371. # [17:23] <JoshManders> Y U NO LIKE WEB 2.0 !?!?
  372. # [17:23] <JoshManders> Yeah... I'm gonna have to ask you to make this work in IE5.5 only. Thanks.
  373. # [17:24] <zachleat> It's the same argument I see all the time for "I don't write unit tests." Need to shift towards long term thinking
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  389. # [17:41] <diamonds> zachleat: I agree (I'm compiling info for a bug report) but it's hard to justify to project managers
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  391. # [17:45] <Jon471> diamonds: don't justify it, tell them you are doing and they can update their project plans or not, it's up to them
  392. # [17:47] <diamonds> ... "I'm working on stuff far outside the project scope that the client doesn't care about, deal with it" ?
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  396. # [17:54] <shichuan> paul_irish nimbupani: hey guys, we launch in half an hour's time right?
  397. # [17:55] <nimbupani> shichuan: ASAP actually
  398. # [17:55] <nimbupani> thinking of a tweet.
  399. # [17:55] <shichuan> ok
  400. # [17:55] <nimbupani> paul_irish: is MIA so will do as soon as he is back online.
  401. # [17:56] <shichuan> ok :)
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  403. # [17:57] <nimbupani> shichuan: can you give me 3 words to describe mobile bp :P
  404. # [17:57] <nimbupani> 3 key words that is.
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  407. # [17:57] <shichuan> haha, let me think
  408. # [18:00] <miketaylr> mobile, boiler, plate
  409. # [18:00] <nimbupani> hahahahaha
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  411. # [18:02] <paul_irish> shichuan: nimbupani im hererre
  412. # [18:02] <nimbupani> kay kay paul_irish i think "Cross-browser compatible (Android, iOS, Blackberry, Symbian)" seems wrong
  413. # [18:02] <paul_irish> nimbupani: did you draft a tweet
  414. # [18:02] <nimbupani> no :|||
  415. # [18:02] <nimbupani> still thinking
  416. # [18:02] <paul_irish> okok
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  421. # [18:04] <paul_irish> nimbupani:
  422. # [18:04] <paul_irish> Mobile Boilerplate is your trusted template custom-made for creating rich and performant mobile web apps. http://goo.gl/cblCs
  423. # [18:04] <paul_irish> um
  424. # [18:04] <paul_irish> i like yours
  425. # [18:04] <paul_irish> Mobile Boilerplate 1.0 is out! Optimized viewport scaling, cross-platform compatibility, mobile browser optimizations
  426. # [18:05] <nimbupani> kay
  427. # [18:05] <nimbupani> PERFORMANT
  428. # [18:05] <nimbupani> NO THNX
  429. # [18:05] <paul_irish> lol
  430. # [18:05] <paul_irish> shichuan: here?
  431. # [18:07] <jetienne> q. i want to download a text in a webpage. the text is a .js and i dont want to execute it. just to download it. i tried to do <script type="unknown/foobar" src="http://example.com"> but even after the load event... i cant get the loaded text. anybody with an idea ?
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  433. # [18:07] <shichuan> hihi!
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  435. # [18:08] <paul_irish> kk
  436. # [18:08] <paul_irish> i think ill do a doubletweet
  437. # [18:08] <nimbupani> link to the presoz?
  438. # [18:08] <shichuan> well, keywords i can think are like easy, fast and complete.
  439. # [18:09] <paul_irish> nimbupani: nah jsut a double link to the homepage.
  440. # [18:09] <paul_irish> or one without a link actually
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  442. # [18:10] <nimbupani> yeah
  443. # [18:10] <nimbupani> dont link twice :| so spammy
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  446. # [18:12] <paul_irish> https://twitter.com/#!/h5bp/status/52401575934693376
  447. # [18:12] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/hLcKJo @h5bp: Mobile Boilerplate 1.0 is out! Optimized viewport scaling, cross-platform compatibility, mobile browser optimizations. http://goo.gl/cblCs
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  451. # [18:13] <paul_irish> shichuan: when does the nettuts video publish?
  452. # [18:13] <nimbupani> suweet.
  453. # [18:13] <shichuan> i told them after the launch
  454. # [18:13] <felcom> thanks for another great tool, boilerplaters <3
  455. # [18:13] <shichuan> i think maybe in a day or two?
  456. # [18:14] <shichuan> wow!!!
  457. # [18:15] <shichuan> my twitter is so slow, finally saw the tweet!
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  459. # [18:15] <nimbupani> O NO YOU DIDNT
  460. # [18:15] <nimbupani> performant
  461. # [18:16] <paul_irish> :D
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  471. # [18:27] <nimbupani> shichuan: in the google doc on device pixel ratio
  472. # [18:27] <nimbupani> i think you meant "page does not fit the rule" rather than "fix the rule"
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  474. # [18:29] <xonecas> o/
  475. # [18:31] <shichuan> let me take a look
  476. # [18:33] <shichuan> nimbupani: thanx, changed :)
  477. # [18:35] <nimbupani> cools :)
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  482. # [18:48] <paul_irish> shichuan: the styling of the disqus comments is weird.
  483. # [18:48] <nimbupani> yeah it is :|
  484. # [18:48] <nimbupani> how come?
  485. # [18:49] <shichuan> let me take alook
  486. # [18:49] <nimbupani> i bet its missing a classname in parent
  487. # [18:50] <shichuan> the ppt has some issue also
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  489. # [18:50] <shichuan> i set as public, when i logout google, cant view :|
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  491. # [18:51] <paul_irish> you need to be logged into A google account
  492. # [18:51] <paul_irish> ithnk
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  494. # [18:52] <paul_irish> shichuan: you should send an announcement email to the googlegroup
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  499. # [18:59] <shichuan> paul_irish: ok, posted :)
  500. # [18:59] <shichuan> shall we change to slideshare later? dunno how many ppl uses google
  501. # [19:00] <nimbupani> it doesnt matter i suppose?
  502. # [19:00] <nimbupani> most people are going to see it from the site.
  503. # [19:00] <nimbupani> not from slideshare :P
  504. # [19:00] <paul_irish> shichuan: why did we opt for mq.js instead of respond?
  505. # [19:00] <paul_irish> i forget
  506. # [19:00] <nimbupani> coz respond doesnt do device-width
  507. # [19:01] <shichuan> becos it doesnt support min/max-device-width
  508. # [19:01] <shichuan> nimbupani: good point, slideshare is a eco-system of its own
  509. # [19:02] <shichuan> ok, stay w google is better :)
  510. # [19:02] <nimbupani> :)
  511. # [19:06] <paul_irish> scott jehl: "I'd be interested in seeing a use case where device- makes sense more than min-/max-. If you come across one"
  512. # [19:06] <paul_irish> "we're doing some pretty crazy stuff internally and haven't found use for it yet"
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  514. # [19:09] <nimbupani> wat
  515. # [19:09] <nimbupani> weird.
  516. # [19:09] <paul_irish> also
  517. # [19:09] <paul_irish> "small typo I noticed: what's jQuery Touch? "
  518. # [19:10] <paul_irish> cc shichuan
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  520. # [19:11] <shichuan> where did we mention jQuery Touch?
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  522. # [19:13] <paul_irish> oops i did that
  523. # [19:13] <paul_irish> shichuan: "can you confirm that device- is the only prop shi wanted in there? If so, I'll bump the priority"
  524. # [19:13] <paul_irish> he wants to add it to respond.js
  525. # [19:13] <paul_irish> for us
  526. # [19:14] <shichuan> ok, the reason we want device- is more like when u do mobile first but also wanna it to look decent for desktop
  527. # [19:15] <shichuan> like our current mbp site
  528. # [19:15] <shichuan> i am fixing the desqus and a couple of minor issues
  529. # [19:15] <shichuan> *disqus
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  533. # [19:18] <paul_irish> shichuan: i guess scott is asking why that cant be done with standard max- min- width
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  538. # [19:20] <shichuan> 90% of the time it can
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  540. # [19:21] <shichuan> for layout width etc, w or w/o device- doesn't make much diff
  541. # [19:23] <shichuan> arh, i think i remembered why
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  544. # [19:24] <shichuan> cos your min/max-width will get updated when u rotate the screen
  545. # [19:24] <nimbupani> k paul_irish i updated the site again. THANKS
  546. # [19:24] <shichuan> min/max-device-width is a fixed value for ppl to benchmark the width and height
  547. # [19:25] <paul_irish> nimbupani: F5
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  549. # [19:26] <nimbupani> thanks
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  551. # [19:27] <alrra> paul_irish, nimbupani , shichuan : maybe update h5bp.com/mobile/ to point to html5boilerplate.com/mobile/ ?
  552. # [19:27] <bot-t> (117 hours ago) <paul_irish> tell alrra in the future check your git diff beforehand because commits with huge whitespace differences are very :(
  553. # [19:28] <paul_irish> alrra: yeah i gotta do somma that
  554. # [19:28] <nimbupani> yeha that is broken for now :|
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  556. # [19:29] <althie> http://textaligncentaur.com/ <-- new text-align for css3?
  557. # [19:30] <shichuan> paul_irish: i will setup a simple one page test case to demo why in some cases u need device-
  558. # [19:30] <paul_irish> shichuan: that'd be great
  559. # [19:30] <paul_irish> :)
  560. # [19:30] <paul_irish> althie: hahahahahahah
  561. # [19:30] <paul_irish> this is totally way better than http://text-align.com/
  562. # [19:31] <althie> yeah, totally agree
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  565. # [19:34] <shichuan> nimbupani paul_irish: i pushed disqus fix
  566. # [19:35] <nimbupani> o sweet.
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  568. # [19:36] <shichuan> nimbupani paul_irish: as well as a broken img fix
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  572. # [19:41] <nimbupani> o good.
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  577. # [19:48] <nimbupani> https://twitter.com/adactio/status/52420790137794560
  578. # [19:48] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/fUzijS @adactio: Really pleased to see Mobile Boilerplate (although I'm not so happy to see "user-scalable=no" in there). http://html5boilerplate.com/mobile/
  579. # [19:48] <nimbupani> hahaha
  580. # [19:48] <Peter`> I kindof agree tbh
  581. # [19:49] <Peter`> it annoys me if I cannot scale sites
  582. # [19:49] <paul_irish> yeahhhh
  583. # [19:49] <nimbupani> yeahhh
  584. # [19:49] <paul_irish> lol
  585. # [19:49] <paul_irish> CC shichuan !
  586. # [19:49] <nimbupani> :|
  587. # [19:49] <nimbupani> its a hard choice.
  588. # [19:49] <shichuan> paul_irish: actually when think again, i feel device- is just to make it mobile specific, in practical use, arh...... actually i can't think of a scenario that's absolutely needed
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  590. # [19:51] <paul_irish> kay
  591. # [19:51] <shichuan> paul_irish: i think the hard-boiled css is worth reconsidering again
  592. # [19:51] <paul_irish> works for me
  593. # [19:52] <paul_irish> file a ticket
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  595. # [19:54] <paul_irish> also http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2378910
  596. # [19:54] <danielfilho> /away
  597. # [19:54] <danielfilho> oops
  598. # [19:55] <danielfilho> hey guys :D
  599. # [19:55] <shichuan> paul_irish: dunno if we need to rush to a conclusion, i think an option cld be converting all the device-* to non device-
  600. # [19:56] <tw2113> if someone has done something better, and made it public, why not include it and give credit where credit due?
  601. # [19:56] <nimbupani> shichuan: i am replying to this keith dood on mailinglist.
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  603. # [19:56] <nimbupani> will show you before I hit send.
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  605. # [19:56] <shichuan> nimbupani: ok :)
  606. # [19:58] <paul_irish> shichuan: me neither but i think filing a ticket would be nice so we can get other people to weigh in
  607. # [19:59] <paul_irish> can always close and ignore it if there is no interest
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  610. # [20:00] <shichuan> paul_irish: the issue is good, i prefer more discussion on this :)
  611. # [20:01] <xonecas> paul_irish: pull! pull! :-)
  612. # [20:01] <paul_irish> busyyyy
  613. # [20:01] <shichuan> paul_irish: there is lack of discussion abt these stuff, and mobile is new, so i think we shld all be prepared for a lot debate :)
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  615. # [20:03] <paul_irish> definitely
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  617. # [20:04] <paul_irish> shichuan: nimbupani: https://twitter.com/#!/cameronmoll/status/52422189613457408
  618. # [20:04] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/h9XB5A @cameronmoll: Anyone else getting left/right scrolling on http://html5boilerplate.com/mobile/ in Mobile Safari?
  619. # [20:05] <shichuan> paul_irish: someone has to start making ppl question abt what's the best, and we started it! :)
  620. # [20:05] <paul_irish> ;)
  621. # [20:06] <nimbupani> http://oksoclap.com/hTma2dPdsg shichuan
  622. # [20:06] <nimbupani> what
  623. # [20:06] <nimbupani> left right scrolling :|
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  625. # [20:07] <Jon471> schichuan, i wonder how many keystrokes you've saved over a lifetime of writing "shd" instead of "should", or "ppl" instead of "people"
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  627. # [20:08] <nimbupani> umm Jon471?
  628. # [20:08] <paul_irish> shichuan: nimbupani: i can repro the scrolling but dont see an obvious fix
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  630. # [20:08] <nimbupani> what is the cause of it paul_irish?
  631. # [20:08] <shichuan> paul_irish: i can fix it
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  634. # [20:11] <paul_irish> shichuan: k thanks
  635. # [20:11] <paul_irish> lemme know when you push and ill deploy
  636. # [20:11] <paul_irish> nimbupani: looks good
  637. # [20:12] <shichuan> paul_irish: https://github.com/nimbupani/html5boilerplate-site/commit/6b8000193fb002c8153fadb24013a5dac3978b04
  638. # [20:12] <shichuan> fixed
  639. # [20:12] <danielfilho> guys, I've presented last week and I talked about html5bp, but I don't know how to say shichuan's name. So I just wrote it down, ok? :D
  640. # [20:13] <danielfilho> it's in portuguese, but if someone here want to see: http://vimeo.com/21494053
  641. # [20:13] <danielfilho> (is an ignite event, so it is pretty fast)
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  644. # [20:14] <nimbupani> kay paul_irish shichuan gonna post.
  645. # [20:14] <nimbupani> hahah #frame display: none
  646. # [20:14] <shichuan> nimbupani: looks ok :)
  647. # [20:14] <paul_irish> shichuan: what is the #frame for?
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  650. # [20:15] <nimbupani> "She Chu un" is how to pronounce it danielfilho
  651. # [20:15] <shichuan> pau_irish: it's actually added as the logos frame :(
  652. # [20:15] <nimbupani> amirite shichuan?
  653. # [20:15] <shichuan> nimbupani: pretty close :)
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  655. # [20:16] <shichuan> paul_irish: shld hav tested it, but it was added last min
  656. # [20:16] <paul_irish> k
  657. # [20:17] <danielfilho> oh, thanks divya :D
  658. # [20:17] <tw2113> i wish people wouldn't link to pdf's directly on HN
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  663. # [20:25] <paul_irish> shichuan: https://twitter.com/#!/RWW/status/52434559505141760
  664. # [20:25] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/gFZ4aP @RWW: ReadWriteMobile: Need a Mobile Web App Template? Mobile Boilerplate 1.0 is Here http://rww.to/gpn8Ou
  665. # [20:25] <nimbupani> woah
  666. # [20:26] <nimbupani> paul_irish: I need a screenshot on iOS with latest content on h5bp
  667. # [20:26] <nimbupani> can you send me?
  668. # [20:26] <nimbupani> i mean h5bp mobile paul_irish
  669. # [20:26] <paul_irish> yes
  670. # [20:27] <paul_irish> http://paulirish.com/i/25a0.png
  671. # [20:27] <nimbupani> key how about android browser paul_irish :))
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  673. # [20:28] <digitalfiz> paul_irish, is that a ios emulator?
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  675. # [20:29] <paul_irish> yes emulator
  676. # [20:32] <JKarsrud> emulator or simulator? THAT is the question ;)
  677. # [20:37] <shichuan> http://i51.tinypic.com/333bok7.jpg
  678. # [20:37] <paul_irish> thx. i couldnt get my emulator working just now
  679. # [20:38] <shichuan> busiest day of my life!!! :)
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  683. # [20:41] <shichuan> http://i52.tinypic.com/28cfxxj.png
  684. # [20:42] <paul_irish> ?wa time singapore
  685. # [20:42] <bot-t> paul_irish, 2:38:47 am SGT : Tuesday, March 29, 2011
  686. # [20:42] <paul_irish> ouch! sorry!
  687. # [20:42] <uf0> shicuan what emulator do you use?
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  690. # [20:44] <salazr> ?wa time beirut
  691. # [20:44] <bot-t> salazr, 9:41:13 pm EEST : Monday, March 28, 2011
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  698. # [20:51] <Syloq> I just noticed that when an <input> has a required flag set on it that the resulting "error message" is only as long as the original element. Which isn't necessarily a problem, but if the message is longer than the element width browsers make it render incorrectly/ugly. Is there a way to style just the required "error message"?
  699. # [20:58] <shichuan> uf0: for which one?
  700. # [20:59] <shichuan> uf0: the android one is actual screenshot
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  702. # [20:59] <shichuan> uf0: the windows one used visual studio for windows phone
  703. # [21:01] <shichuan> paul_irish: plus there are a couple of other deadlines i am rushing :)
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  714. # [21:21] <uf0> shicuan: for iphone
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  718. # [21:32] <paul_irish> uf0: hit tab to autocomplete nicks
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  722. # [21:43] <paul_irish> shichuan: this is jquery mobile's fastButtons approach https://github.com/jquery/jquery-mobile/blob/fastclick/js/jquery.mobile.vmouse.js
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  726. # [21:44] <shichuan> paul_irish: jquery mobile's events are also very good
  727. # [21:45] <shichuan> paul_irish: if they can take out these stuff and piece them together will be great
  728. # [21:45] <paul_irish> aye
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  730. # [21:46] <shichuan> paul_irish: at first, the events were included, then later i took them out, cos maintainability cld be a problem
  731. # [21:46] <paul_irish> aye
  732. # [21:46] <paul_irish> np
  733. # [21:57] <uf0> paul_irish: i'm on a bnc (multiple networks) and can't do the infamous autocomplete
  734. # [21:57] <uf0> your name to me comes out to fn'paul_irish
  735. # [21:58] <paul_irish> ol
  736. # [21:58] <uf0> shichuan: I meant iphone, do you test on actual SDK
  737. # [21:58] <uf0> ?
  738. # [21:58] <paul_irish> your client is weird.
  739. # [21:59] <uf0> i'm first on efent, freenode second
  740. # [21:59] <uf0> and question for you actually..
  741. # [21:59] <uf0> are <select> tags stylable?
  742. # [22:00] <uf0> select and option
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  751. # [22:15] <paul_irish> uf0: nathan smith and cssninja have done the best job of styling selects
  752. # [22:15] <paul_irish> without overbearing js
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  756. # [22:28] <paul_irish> also
  757. # [22:28] <paul_irish> someone wants to remove the hot pink: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/issues/407
  758. # [22:28] <CrashTest_> Mobile boilerplate looks awesome, can't wait to dive into it.
  759. # [22:28] <paul_irish> cool
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  761. # [22:28] <nimbupani> i saw that paul_irish
  762. # [22:28] <paul_irish> looks like we'll have a 1.1 soon
  763. # [22:28] <paul_irish> :)
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  765. # [22:29] <nimbupani> o no not so soon! >_>
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  773. # [22:39] <uf0> paul_irish: any links on that (nathan/cssninja)?
  774. # [22:39] <uf0> I did check out cssninja but that's more of a service
  775. # [22:39] <uf0> just want something simple or guide
  776. # [22:39] <uf0> if you have something of course
  777. # [22:39] <felcom> http://formalize.me/
  778. # [22:42] <felcom> that is more of a form reset
  779. # [22:42] <uf0> felcom: appreciate that
  780. # [22:42] <uf0> I should mention, i'm looking for a strict CSS way
  781. # [22:42] <uf0> i don't want to use JS to style or 'correct' defaults
  782. # [22:42] <felcom> that lib has an associated CSS file, might give you some ideas
  783. # [22:42] <uf0> alright
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  785. # [22:49] <simenbrekken> I'm fading in a container using normal fadeIn but a child set to left, right, bottom: 0 doesn't adjust according to the parent, am I doing something wrong or is there a clever way to force the child to apply it's CSS again?
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  787. # [22:52] <Joric> guys, is there any portal for publishing html5 games like congregate or something is there any publishers/buyers for such games?
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  789. # [22:54] <althie> Joric: html5games.com ?
  790. # [22:54] <althie> not sure but it seems to be
  791. # [22:54] <Joric> i mean is it possible to earn something on those games like on flash games
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  793. # [22:54] <althie> ah :)
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  804. # [23:13] <paul_irish> shichuan, nimbupani: https://twitter.com/#!/joemarini/status/52469331497459713
  805. # [23:13] <socialhapy> http://bit.ly/fFCoYM @joemarini: @h5bp Yes, that's what I'm taking a look at now. I'm also going to try it out on my IE9 on windows phone.
  806. # [23:13] <paul_irish> \o/
  807. # [23:13] <nimbupani> sweet
  808. # [23:14] <shichuan> sweet
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  810. # [23:14] <shichuan> i just relied a couple of repsonses here and there
  811. # [23:14] <shichuan> biggest issue is here: https://github.com/shichuan/mobile-html5-boilerplate/issues/#issue/16
  812. # [23:14] <shichuan> i am gonna call it a day for now
  813. # [23:15] <shichuan> see u all in a few hours :)
  814. # [23:15] <shichuan> good night :)
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